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from my understanding, a fetish is essentially something one finds pleasurable (sexual or not) that does not involve the parts of the body designed for sexual pleasure. so for example, "bullying" could be considered a fetish. does bullying someone (psychological or physically) have anything to do with sex? no. in spite of this fact, people still find it pleasurable to be degraded.

that's my definition I'm operating under, feel free to correct me if I'm wrong there. and if i am incorrect, please give me the word that describes my definition so i know in the future what term to use.

There's an older definition, which I'm not really a big fan of either, that denotes that the term "fetish" strictly speaking applies to elements outside the norm that are both used and required for achieving sexual pleasure/gratification. I.e. they're kind of pathological, while IIRC the term for elements outside the norm that are merely used to derive pleasure from, but not required, would be referred to as "kinks". I think it's fair to use the terms interchangeably, as they commonly are colloquially anyway, and I think that's what you were getting at.

I'm also a bit bothered by the word "bullying", because what we have here is people mildly, gently and lovingly teasing each other, while "bullying" aims to destroy a person. (The first chapter or two of Nagatoro-san kind of seemed like they might fall into "bullying", but that cleared up and mellowed out rather quickly).

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It’s fine to be loyal to the Dynasty scanlators—quite admirable, really. So don’t go to Mangadex and read the latest chapter.

[Cackles arch-villain cackle.

It's funny, I feel like I should be happy that I more or less called it, but it was also so damn obvious that it was going to end with Koguma kissing Hino that it feels like calling every space at a roulette table.

Yes, it was absolutely amazing, but now what? There should be an aftermath, but after that last "DUMMY!" I'm pretty sure the next chapter will start in their corner of the school yard again, with those events only slowly being processed in their inner monologue while dealing with "current shenanigans", as it has largely been done for the previous 127 chapters. Come to think of it, that could be seen as one of the major strong suits of the series...

Edit: Oh wait, the preview frame hints at a scene-at-home!

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joined Sep 16, 2019

It’s fine to be loyal to the Dynasty scanlators—quite admirable, really. So don’t go to Mangadex and read the latest chapter.

[Cackles arch-villain cackle.

It's funny, I feel like I should be happy that I more or less called it, but it was also so damn obvious that it was going to end with Koguma kissing Hino that it feels like calling every space at a roulette table.

Yes, it was absolutely amazing, but now what? There should be an aftermath, but after that last "DUMMY!" I'm pretty sure the next chapter will start in their corner of the school yard again, with those events only slowly being processed in their inner monologue while dealing with "current shenanigans", as it has largely been done for the previous 127 chapters. Come to think of it, that could be seen as one of the major strong suits of the series...

Edit: Oh wait, the preview frame hints at a scene-at-home!

As someone who‘s subscribed to Ganma and willing to take the time to figure out what the Google Translate results are actually supposed to mean, believe me when I say you have nothing to fear on that end. Chapter 130 is great.

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joined Dec 4, 2017

from my understanding, a fetish is essentially something one finds pleasurable (sexual or not) that does not involve the parts of the body designed for sexual pleasure. so for example, "bullying" could be considered a fetish. does bullying someone (psychological or physically) have anything to do with sex? no. in spite of this fact, people still find it pleasurable to be degraded.

that's my definition I'm operating under, feel free to correct me if I'm wrong there. and if i am incorrect, please give me the word that describes my definition so i know in the future what term to use.

There's an older definition, which I'm not really a big fan of either, that denotes that the term "fetish" strictly speaking applies to elements outside the norm that are both used and required for achieving sexual pleasure/gratification. I.e. they're kind of pathological, while IIRC the term for elements outside the norm that are merely used to derive pleasure from, but not required, would be referred to as "kinks". I think it's fair to use the terms interchangeably, as they commonly are colloquially anyway, and I think that's what you were getting at.

I'm also a bit bothered by the word "bullying", because what we have here is people mildly, gently and lovingly teasing each other, while "bullying" aims to destroy a person. (The first chapter or two of Nagatoro-san kind of seemed like they might fall into "bullying", but that cleared up and mellowed out rather quickly).

yeah, i think they can be interchangeable in most contexts. though, the way i see it, kink is nature and fetish is nurture. a kink is a divergence of an objects natural path of motion. so in nature, we have sex with our sexual organs, but someone with a kink might only be able to get off with feet involved or some other "unnatural" condition. then there's fetish which is more of a special interest or obsession of something that is usually intertwined with ones sexuality. so something can be considered both, one, or the other depending on context. however, one big similarity is that both can develop into a philia when mixed with the wrong circumstances.

as for bullying, i suppose i could have used a more acceptable term there, but i wasn't really referring to the life destroying aspect of it. i guess teasing would be a more fitting word.

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joined Jan 9, 2017

Another supernatural element?

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joined Jan 30, 2013

Another supernatural element?

Or maybe she has PTSD of rain hitting her? Think it would have come up by now... I think we're just pulling at strings now... or the creator is.

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joined Nov 9, 2017

Damn, I can't believe Hino just died and the series is over. Crazy.

Ykn1
joined Dec 20, 2018

Took Koguma a moment to realize how them cooking together looked. ^_^

Hino's reaction to the rain looks like there may be more to it...

Moddedpolka2
joined Oct 9, 2016

So... Sudden drama incoming.

Sleepyfrogwaifutiny
joined Sep 25, 2019

Damn, I can't believe Hino just died and the series is over. Crazy.

...For the second time!

Khancrop
joined Feb 18, 2013

Oh, are we doing a vampire Hino plot now? Or poorly-waterproofed gynoid? Cute chapter otherwise, though!

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joined Mar 21, 2019

I can't wait till the Dynasty side of this catches up cause AAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHH

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joined Jul 29, 2017

I can't wait till the Dynasty side of this catches up cause AAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHH

Quite so. All shall be well, and all shall be well, and all manner of thing shall be well.--Julian of Norwich

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joined Sep 10, 2022

I can't wait till the Dynasty side of this catches up cause AAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHH

Quite so. All shall be well, and all shall be well, and all manner of thing shall be well.--Julian of Norwich

Also agreed. She was always just a young girl with an unrequited crush meant to push the characters to actually think about their places. Never treated like a serious actor in the story (besides eventually Omichi, I guess). The drama around her inclusion was always predictable but mostly exaggerated. Still, it moved faster than even I expected, so cool.

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joined Aug 29, 2019

I can't wait till the Dynasty side of this catches up cause AAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHH

Yeah. I mean, like... I did not see that coming. Looks like Kinniku Tarou pulled a fast one on me by not pulling a fast one on me.

Capy%20white
joined Mar 21, 2019

I can't wait till the Dynasty side of this catches up cause AAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHH

Yeah. I mean, like... I did not see that coming. Looks like Kinniku Tarou pulled a fast one on me by not pulling a fast one on me.

It's a brilliant setup really. This manga is all about setting expectations and then going "LOLNOPE HERE'S THE PUNCHLINE" so the one time it sets up certain expectations and then actually goes through with it is genuinely a surprise.

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joined May 28, 2021

Yeah, the latest chapter is just AAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHITSHAPPENNIIIING

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joined Apr 1, 2015

I haven't read ahead, so I'm not looking at spoilers, but I mean we did see her in the rain at least once

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I haven't read ahead, so I'm not looking at spoilers, but I mean we did see her in the rain at least once

This series will warrant a(nother) re-read pretty soon. (very mild general spoilers ahead) Current and coming chapters cast a slightly different light on some interactions.

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joined Jul 29, 2017

I haven't read ahead, so I'm not looking at spoilers, but I mean we did see her in the rain at least once

There have been other benign rainy occasions as well. On the other hand, we have seen rain associated with Hino and trauma before, and that will be made more explicit.

I think the simple explanation is that potential triggers don't necessarily cause an extreme PTSD response every time, and it can be pretty unpredictable what will do it. Sometimes graphic depictions of their kind of trauma won't affect a person at all, and at other times a random image or sound will cause a full-blown reaction.

Enanano
joined Oct 16, 2020

Damn, can't wait for the next chapter frfr

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joined Aug 29, 2019

Damn, can't wait for the next chapter frfr

I am 16 chapters ahead, but still in the same boat.

[major spoilers for Ch. 130]
Like, seriously, where do we go from here? Do we just end it with a short wrap up and maybe a time skip? Seems a weird choice, just after setting up a side-ship with Omichii and Rin and only relatively shortly after going weekly. Are they in a hurry to free up the release slot? Do we explore all the new and fun ways in which Hino can now tease Koguma for another 70 chapters? (Yes, please!)

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joined Jan 14, 2020

This chapter made me wonder about Hino's parents again.

joined May 29, 2021

To those that haven't, you might seriously consider getting caught up on Mangadex 'cause...yeah.

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To those that haven't, you might seriously consider getting caught up on Mangadex 'cause...yeah.

Agree wholeheartedly, although I personally am not going to do any specific discussion of MD-only chapters (sorry, Zormau-san) before they appear here.

But dang these two are sweet and cute.

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