very interesting lol need more yuri like this

ok this is cute but how tf is she sitting on that fire hydrant?? IN A SKIRT NO LESS

and suddenly her mind goes as blank as the pages in front of her

Looks like fun! Full series when? Or even a sequel honestly. I’d like to see more

something about this gives me slight tatsuki fujimoto vibes and im here for it

damn did not expect to almost cry when hino san was reminiscing about all the other things she loves about koguma besides her height.. only to laugh a moment later when they go though with the pre-diploma sex only to have it be the butt of the joke in the end. Hino San you jerk!

I haven't been too happy with the progression of this one but I'm happy with it as a whole and think this last chapter did a good job ending the story we got. however, i'll have to comeback and reread this as an entire finished work to really see what i like and dislike about the story. thank you to everyone who took the time and effort to translate this series for us to read, I cant believe its been almost 7? years?? i gotta say I'll miss seeing new chapters uploaded here..

it's finger lickin' good!

in a platonic way, of course...

does anybody else have severe whiplash? im happy they finally together (I wasn't expecting it to actually happen honestly) but damn at what cost?? i mean, the writing for the last 15 or so chapters, though entertaining, is really inconsistent with the previous 100+ chapters, save for a few. but i guess it would be pretty hard to end a manga with this format. you either end it abruptly, keeping up with the tone of the manga but piss everyone off cough hachiko cough, or sell out. either way its been an interesting read and i will remember this manga fondly mostly. now for a time skip and unnecessary sex scene :P this comment has been brought to you by hino's dead grandmother. if not for her sacrifice hino and koguma might have never met! she will be watching over them (doing it) in heaven RIP

ok someone get the big spoon imma have to eat my own words

also, we got this big emotional dump and now they are a thing. are we gonna get to see them being a thing or is this beginning a means to an end?

from my understanding, a fetish is essentially something one finds pleasurable (sexual or not) that does not involve the parts of the body designed for sexual pleasure. so for example, "bullying" could be considered a fetish. does bullying someone (psychological or physically) have anything to do with sex? no. in spite of this fact, people still find it pleasurable to be degraded.

that's my definition I'm operating under, feel free to correct me if I'm wrong there. and if i am incorrect, please give me the word that describes my definition so i know in the future what term to use.

There's an older definition, which I'm not really a big fan of either, that denotes that the term "fetish" strictly speaking applies to elements outside the norm that are both used and required for achieving sexual pleasure/gratification. I.e. they're kind of pathological, while IIRC the term for elements outside the norm that are merely used to derive pleasure from, but not required, would be referred to as "kinks". I think it's fair to use the terms interchangeably, as they commonly are colloquially anyway, and I think that's what you were getting at.

I'm also a bit bothered by the word "bullying", because what we have here is people mildly, gently and lovingly teasing each other, while "bullying" aims to destroy a person. (The first chapter or two of Nagatoro-san kind of seemed like they might fall into "bullying", but that cleared up and mellowed out rather quickly).

yeah, i think they can be interchangeable in most contexts. though, the way i see it, kink is nature and fetish is nurture. a kink is a divergence of an objects natural path of motion. so in nature, we have sex with our sexual organs, but someone with a kink might only be able to get off with feet involved or some other "unnatural" condition. then there's fetish which is more of a special interest or obsession of something that is usually intertwined with ones sexuality. so something can be considered both, one, or the other depending on context. however, one big similarity is that both can develop into a philia when mixed with the wrong circumstances.

as for bullying, i suppose i could have used a more acceptable term there, but i wasn't really referring to the life destroying aspect of it. i guess teasing would be a more fitting word.

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fetish.

@daydream_dog94
You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.

(do memes work in that format?)

from my understanding, a fetish is essentially something one finds pleasurable (sexual or not) that does not involve the parts of the body designed for sexual pleasure. so for example, "bullying" could be considered a fetish. does bullying someone (psychological or physically) have anything to do with sex? no. in spite of this fact, people still find it pleasurable to be degraded.

that's my definition I'm operating under, feel free to correct me if I'm wrong there. and if i am incorrect, please give me the word that describes my definition so i know in the future what term to use.

do people forget that this is one of those fetish pleasing manga or am i the one out of the loop here?? this is essentially the Yuri version of nagatoro. its a stretch limo where the authors weird fetishes get shotgun while any actual romance takes a back seat. and its been this way since chapter 1. i wont quote it bc its long but there's a comment on this page about how they are just normal kids acting like normal kids? and im honestly not sure if its meant to be sarcastic or just severely out of touch lol

Well, in the context of a Japanese comedy manga, where "normal" is pretty ambiguous concept, they arguably haven't actually crossed too many problematic lines. Sure, there's been a boatload of innuendo, double-entendre, and suggestive ideation, and inching up toward red lines and then leaving things hanging. But "fetish-pleasing manga" seems like a massive overstatement in regard to what has actually happened in the story.

Compared to, say, Yuugai Shitei Doukyuusei, which has a very similar basic setup of a diligent class rep trying to keep a rambunctious classmate in line, this is the height of wholesome adolescent experimentation on the cusp of sexual awakening.

True. But I also don’t think a piece of entertainment has to go that far to please a fetish. Nothing wrong with it. I’ve read and enjoyed all of nagatoro and this manga too. But to read something like this and not see it’s blatant exploration of fetish is quite funny, really. It’s obvious.

You can keep asserting this until you're blue in the face, and I can keep asserting that you're profoundly delusional about this being simply a "fetish pleasing manga" for just as long. As I mentioned, sure, it's obvious that the author enjoys suggesting far more than they depict and creating expectations for lewdness that they fail to satisfy--that's the basis of much of the humor.

But please do point to some specific panels or sequences that are so "obviously" merely intended as sexual fetish material, either for the author or the audience.

oh. did i say somewhere that it cant be both fetish pleasing AND a comedy? and the whole thing from the beginning is obviously playing into some kind of bullying/embarrassment fetish. this isn't the first series to do this. also im not saying its "obvious" that this manga is solely for sexual pleasure. like you said there are other, more deserving titles. what im saying is that its obvious that fetish is very much a big part of this series as a whole. it doesn't have to be explicitly shown to the last dirty detail to know its there. as you said, it goes hand in hand with the comedy. and to add, my initial comment has to do with peoples very critical reactions to the most recent chapters. like they didn't see something like this coming from a mile away.

another example of this type of manga is the one about groping boobs with the long ass title lol it’s horny for the sake of being horny and everything else is just background.

You really shouldn't judge a manga you haven't read beyond the first few chapters...

i read the whole thing and own all the available volumes in English just couldnt think of the ridiculous title off the top of my head lol. also i wasn't judging it by any means so sorry for that misunderstanding. sure it has over arching romance (especially in later volumes) but at its core the manga is about worshiping breasts and the characters relationship that develops from that. and that's fine. I never said there was anything wrong with it. I'm simply saying it is what it is. i was just comparing the structure of that manga and this one.

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do people forget that this is one of those fetish pleasing manga or am i the one out of the loop here?? this is essentially the Yuri version of nagatoro. its a stretch limo where the authors weird fetishes get shotgun while any actual romance takes a back seat. and its been this way since chapter 1. i wont quote it bc its long but there's a comment on this page about how they are just normal kids acting like normal kids? and im honestly not sure if its meant to be sarcastic or just severely out of touch lol

Well, in the context of a Japanese comedy manga, where "normal" is pretty ambiguous concept, they arguably haven't actually crossed too many problematic lines. Sure, there's been a boatload of innuendo, double-entendre, and suggestive ideation, and inching up toward red lines and then leaving things hanging. But "fetish-pleasing manga" seems like a massive overstatement in regard to what has actually happened in the story.

Compared to, say, Yuugai Shitei Doukyuusei, which has a very similar basic setup of a diligent class rep trying to keep a rambunctious classmate in line, this is the height of wholesome adolescent experimentation on the cusp of sexual awakening.

True. But I also don’t think a piece of entertainment has to go that far to please a fetish. Nothing wrong with it. I’ve read and enjoyed all of nagatoro and this manga too. But to read something like this and not see it’s blatant exploration of fetish is quite funny, really. It’s obvious. if that isnt the main point of this manga then what is?? i dont see much else going on here. another example of this type of manga is the one about groping boobs with the long ass title lol it’s horny for the sake of being horny and everything else is just background. And that’s ok.

do people forget that this is one of those fetish pleasing manga or am i the one out of the loop here?? this is essentially the Yuri version of nagatoro. its a stretch limo where the authors weird fetishes get shotgun while any actual romance takes a back seat. and its been this way since chapter 1. i wont quote it bc its long but there's a comment on this page about how they are just normal kids acting like normal kids? and im honestly not sure if its meant to be sarcastic or just severely out of touch lol

hi, can you please stop making me fall for the uncle? thanks.

im surprised we haven't been flocked with more art post finale..

"you like krabby patties, don't you arisa?"

hold the phone! now give the phone to me. THATS A 5 YEAR OLD RIGHT?

gather round ya'll, we got ourselves a dumpster fire

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koguma unleashed

don't watch em.. lol kidding. (kinda) the last episode especially infuriates me. i understand completely why it was produced the way it was in the end but im still bent about it. don't get me wrong, all the episodes are extremely entertaining and if you are a fan of the show you will love them! but god if it doesn't also feel like a kick in the teeth. the ending and what predetermines it are diluted beyond comprehension and it just bums me out that this show was meant to be so much more... do yourself a favor and just go watch full metal alchemist brotherhood instead lmao

a challenger approaches

this is certainly an interesting development XD i mean, she's an elementary student so there really isn't any real threat here right?? RIGHT? jealous koguma is nice though. hopefully we get to see hino console her in the next chapter

^ yeah, this comment section was a trip lol

the long awaited sequel