Having sex with someone shitfaced drunk, without any pre-existing consent, a virgin no less...

They were both very sober by that point, having a serious and coherent conversation about important life issues. And afterwards, it should be plain and evident by the way they talk and behave in the last 3 pages that everybody consented to everything.

This story has a lot to unpack. Gold digging, Taking advantage of a drunken friend, poverty vs. privilege. But the thing that stood out is how american they sounded. It was a reminder that if you take away the language and culture, we are just a bunch of jerks suffering from the same first world problems.

In the end it just pissed me off by dropping a bomb on their relationship then stopping before giving us an idea where do they go from there.

A classic Kodama Naoko, shitty person x shitty person plot, indeed. But I actually liked it more than her earlier works, probably because the characterization is getting more nuanced. In an earlier Kodama one-shot, Ayaka would be a flat character -- just a gold digger and nothing else, -- but we see her here as an honors student who knows that her friend considers her lifestyle disgusting, but her only (societally-accepted) path to a secure future lies in marrying some rich guy.

Mitsuki, meanwhile, goes through a small character arc, starting off as a passive friend, who feels revolted by Ayaka's actions but doesn't do anything about it. But when Ayaka cuts her off, it gives her time to reexamine her views. When Ayaka then contacts her again (quite intentionally, I believe), Mitsuki becomes an active, even aggressive top who makes Ayaka an all-but-explicit proposal to become her sugar mommy. Too bad Ayaka still doesn't consider it a possibility even after having sex with her...

All in all, I agree with the notion that bad people (as opposed to badly-written characters) often make for good plots.

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I actually kinda liked this. Yeah these people arn't that good but it's better than the author's other work like Netsuzou Trap. I was surpised with what Mitsuki did at the end as she seemed fine earlier but I actually would be interested in sequal to this to see what happens later with these two.

well there actually aren't "good" people irl that's why i like kodama naoko's works. she brings the worst out of people.

but this shot was just a mild one unlike the others.

I was wondering where she went. There she is in all her glory =D

Classic Kodama

I'm completely fucking wasted rn. Anyone care to explain to me why's blond girl bad to me? She seems kinda fine just in love with a gold digger

She was pretty pushy with a (very) drunk girl who she knew probably didn't feel the same way about girls.

I mean the story doesn't tell us the details on the lack of consent, but I think it counts. She was so drunk she called the wrong person and couldn't even walk properly without support.

But yeah, Ayaka is supposed to be the 'bad person' here.

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Classic Kodama..

But how are you guys saying Mitsuki is horrible too? If we'll base on "Kodama" standard, then Mc is still normal.

I'm must say I'm pleasantly surprised by how few posters are parsing out the fine details of why this is a horrible story because the people behave horribly and how many more are like "Eh, par for the Kodama course--pretty mild, actually" and taking the story on its own terms. Signs of hope for the future.

I must also say that I don't see how "Mitsuki isn't interested in guys because she doesn't have to be." It's pretty clear that Mitsuki isn't interested in guys because she's interested in girls, which is not usually an indicator of unacknowledged privilege.

You know what? I choose to believe they both got better once they fell in love. Young people can pull out of the proverbial nosedive of having a shitty personality if they really try.

What in the Kodama Naoko was this... the art is super pretty as always, the characters..oh my, the relationships...oh my, but that's what you get with that author! Well done!

huh? apparently there was rape? well I didn't see it that way, which makes me re-think things, since I saw black hair girl seemed to be ok with it afterwards...Hmmm I shall not thread into those waters... Wait, I re-read it "let me fuck you too", since she thinks she sleeps with all those guys, ok that's pretty shitty. They both have some issues, yes. I'd like to see an epilogue of this.

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yep, got exactly what i signed up for

Classic Kodama..

But how are you guys saying Mitsuki is horrible too? If we'll base on "Kodama" standard, then Mc is still normal.

She is not horrible, people are just tend to be over sensitive (PC bullshit and such). I loved these characters, and Mitsuki is absolutely relatable. "Anaerobic Love" remains my favourite from Kodama, but this is very good too!

I'm fairly sure Kodama wrote in an afterword or something somewhere that she likes writing terrible people

She actually wrote, "The more soap opera-like the better!" once, which is even funnier lol

And it really helped me forgive that manga for its horrible characters that I hated... Not gonna read it again tho XD

Also, could they be the couple in Beach♥Girls? They kinda look similar. And this manga also starts with a similar situation, so I think its possible.

wew they r both twisted

Rotten buggers, but I sure liked the tall gals high-waisted pants.

That's classic Kodomo for you.

Kodama Naoko

Writing trashy characters for the sake of having trashy characters

Name a better combo.

Me no study, me no care, me go marry a millionaire, if he die me no cry
me go marry another guy

We should create a tag called Kodama which stands for bad person x bad person.

Still enjoy their works. This one included! Like previous comments said, I knew what i got into just by seeing the author's name.

This was actually pretty good. And light-hearted for NK. These two feel like regular people, for better or worse.

kodama got soft on this one, they're not really terrible
outside of the guy's thing, ayaka is just a poor girl trying everything she can just to not live miserable
mc is... well, i have seen worse

Agreed. Ayaka strikes me as someone doing a shitty thing, but not really a shitty person.

If not for the assault at the end, the mc would just be rather bland

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I'm fairly sure Kodama wrote in an afterword or something somewhere that she likes writing terrible people

She actually wrote, "The more soap opera-like the better!" once, which is even funnier lol

And it really helped me forgive that manga for its horrible characters that I hated... Not gonna read it again tho XD

I don't think that's the afterword they were refering to. It's most likely this one. But Kodama doesn't exactly make a secret of her tastes, so she probably wrote about them elsewhere as well.