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Utenaanthy01
joined Aug 4, 2018

Ok I'll bite and ask: what's with this color page that shows the same scene as page 1 only it's winter instead of summer and everyone is in winter clothes? It doesn't look like a flashback...

it's a bonus page we added, i'm not sure where it came from, but i will try to find out for you.

We don't deserve you runrin, you're too good for us. Bless you and your kindness

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joined Apr 25, 2020

I wonder if there are countries in the world that allow a girl to marry her sister?

I was about to say "sorry to everyone who isn't like me, but maaan, I just want Neeko x Imoko to happen. Just a little kiss please". It's really nice to see someone else thinks the same :')

Runrin-icon-wrd-2
joined Feb 9, 2019

Ok I'll bite and ask: what's with this color page that shows the same scene as page 1 only it's winter instead of summer and everyone is in winter clothes? It doesn't look like a flashback...

it's a bonus page we added, i'm not sure where it came from, but i will try to find out for you.

ok... the colored page is actually development/promotional art from before neeko was serialized. that's where a lot of the bonus, colored ecchi pages come from that we include from time to time. in this case, the page was nearly the same, so we chose to put it in the chapter.

Internet_lied
joined Jul 15, 2016

It's been almost 3 years since chapter 1 and I feel this is going nowhere for now. I'd be glad to be wrong, but in my eyes, everything that was happening in the past, carried almost nothing into further chapters.

The high concept of this manga is basically "let's point fingers at Neeko's mental problems and laugh", so of course there is no development -- if she made any progress, the story would be over.

No disrespect to the translator's work, but I must admit, I read these chapters on fast-forward by now. And the only reason I still do is a vague hope that when the series eventually gets axed, the author will be gracious enough to give Neeko some kind of healthy resolution.

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American_virgin
joined May 25, 2014

I read this series as being about how self-defeating major depression is, packaged with boobs, because those sell better than pure depression.

You see how much Neeko's family loves her, they never want to hurt her, and they wants her to do well. But you can see how they feel helpless, knowing that they can't just fix her because mental health is complicated, even though the solutions are obvious (just do the things you should be doing). They are willing to go to bat for her often, even though it's thankless.

joined Nov 14, 2013

Neeko has also exhibited development through the series as well - in this latest chapter she still went around to interview people with Urei and Imouko without being tricked into it, which is something she never would have done at the start of the manga, plus the video editing skills she picked up are starting to pay some dividends and she's both able to speak frankly about her worries with Urei as well as get snarky about her mother's efforts in front of others.

The development is slow no question, but that's honestly true to life for someone in Neeko's situation.

Senkomaid_pinkbg_160
joined Jun 4, 2018

I really hope when this ends she gets some real help. Her mom meddles in ways that hinder her more than help, her father looks the other way, clearly caring about her but unable to actually do anything for her, and her sister time after time "inadvertently" finding ways to either humiliate her or make her feel genuinely uncomfortable. (I'm using the largest of possible air quotes here, I'm genuinely starting to think she enjoys messing with Neeko)

I have no doubt in my mind that her family loves her, I just wish they'd realize maybe she needs some actual help, with people trained to deal with these things. I get mental health issues is like a huge taboo in Japan, but it's really hard to read. Each time I read a new chapter I have this vain hope that it's going to end with her in a place better than she was before, and it always ends up worse or on the same line.

_20180228_203946
joined Jan 24, 2018

Ok I'll bite and ask: what's with this color page that shows the same scene as page 1 only it's winter instead of summer and everyone is in winter clothes? It doesn't look like a flashback...

it's a bonus page we added, i'm not sure where it came from, but i will try to find out for you.

ok... the colored page is actually development/promotional art from before neeko was serialized. that's where a lot of the bonus, colored ecchi pages come from that we include from time to time. in this case, the page was nearly the same, so we chose to put it in the chapter.

That's some extremely bonus content! How does one even acquire such treasure?

_20180228_203946
joined Jan 24, 2018

I really hope when this ends she gets some real help. Her mom meddles in ways that hinder her more than help, her father looks the other way, clearly caring about her but unable to actually do anything for her, and her sister time after time "inadvertently" finding ways to either humiliate her or make her feel genuinely uncomfortable. (I'm using the largest of possible air quotes here, I'm genuinely starting to think she enjoys messing with Neeko)

I have no doubt in my mind that her family loves her, I just wish they'd realize maybe she needs some actual help, with people trained to deal with these things. I get mental health issues is like a huge taboo in Japan, but it's really hard to read. Each time I read a new chapter I have this vain hope that it's going to end with her in a place better than she was before, and it always ends up worse or on the same line.

I think she is the only one who can help herself, bit by bit, building self confidence and just putting herself out there in scenarios out of her little safe space, I'm sure she'll find her way. It seems a bit extreme how her family treats her, but wrapping her in cotton and babying her won't help her at all, they are all she has and she's a good person for trying for their sake as well, that's how it is with family. Ganbare Neeko!

Cs4_cover
joined Jul 13, 2015

She don`t need marry if she her own sister

Runrin-icon-wrd-2
joined Feb 9, 2019

I read this series as being about how self-defeating major depression is, packaged with boobs, because those sell better than pure depression.

You see how much Neeko's family loves her, they never want to hurt her, and they wants her to do well. But you can see how they feel helpless, knowing that they can't just fix her because mental health is complicated, even though the solutions are obvious (just do the things you should be doing). They are willing to go to bat for her often, even though it's thankless.

this is exactly how i feel about this comic.

you can tell if people were drawn in by the ecchi or the plot in the comments. they either share heartfelt, personal experiences with depression, or say "LoL JuST Be A cAM wHOrE And GEt RiCH! Don'T You KNoW LiFe iS SuPEr EaSY foR HoT GiRLs?! AnD YOu WoN't Be DEprEssEd If YoU HaVe MoNEy!!"

mental health issues suck. i've been on both sides of it:

  • it sucks for the depressed person knowing that your family is upset because they can't help you. you feel like you are disappointing them, even though you are trying your best.

  • it sucks for the family, helplessly watching their loved one become a shell of who they once were, no matter how hard you try to help them.

neeko's parents are super believable. her dad willing to give her anything she wants hoping that it will make her even a little happy. her mom trying to give her tough love, hoping she will land on her feet if she takes the plunge.

what neeko really needs are some doctors...

Runrin-icon-wrd-2
joined Feb 9, 2019

[27] finally a positive experience for neeko. she really needed it.

joined May 24, 2014

The nononono but yesyesyesyes cycle continues

F4x-3lwx0aa0tcu31
joined Apr 20, 2013

That was really nice, yeah it's not the end of the world to talk with people! is just your mind playing tricks on you before you even get the chance!
So ... That doujin, we don't get to know the content? XP

At MD, because we were used to suffering, I went ahead and saw a few comments before reading, It seemed positive and apparently there was gonna be a cosplay of Shimakaze! I got excited and started reading... Poor old me thinking that it was going to be Neeko xD

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Runrin-icon-wrd-2
joined Feb 9, 2019

neeko used up all her spoons...

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Avatar2
joined Sep 13, 2018

the doujins seems like young neeko and one of her firends somehow.
Or maybe its because the author makes the faces too similar to each other , sometimes i dont know wich is neeko an wich is her friend like in this comiket chapter in certain panels.

I still dont know if her firend is in love with neeko or she is just the best friend ever going out of her way to even talk with neeko's mother about helping her.

Runrin-icon-wrd-2
joined Feb 9, 2019

Or maybe its because the author makes the faces too similar to each other , sometimes i dont know wich is neeko an wich is her friend like in this comiket chapter in certain panels.

yep. this mangaka is pretty bad at that. neeko and uri are nearly indistinguishable in this chapter. doesn't help that uri made a "neeko face" on page 104....

joined Aug 21, 2017

Cool, progress

Yuriloveisbestlove
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joined Feb 15, 2019

Help, this manga is too relatable.
Glad Neeko is making progress though.

Internet_lied
joined Jul 15, 2016

neeko used up all her spoons...

Ah, so that is what it's called. I read about the general idea of rationing energy in Kahneman's book, where he talks about the limited pool of attention/focus we all have, but he doesn't attach a name to it. I am guessing Miserandino's work wasn't academic enough for him to cite...

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joined Mar 5, 2016

neeko used up all her spoons...

Ah, so that is what it's called. I read about the general idea of rationing energy in Kahneman's book, where he talks about the limited pool of attention/focus we all have, but he doesn't attach a name to it. I am guessing Miserandino's work wasn't academic enough for him to cite...

"energy rationing" is already a name

Internet_lied
joined Jul 15, 2016

neeko used up all her spoons...

Ah, so that is what it's called. I read about the general idea of rationing energy in Kahneman's book, where he talks about the limited pool of attention/focus we all have, but he doesn't attach a name to it. I am guessing Miserandino's work wasn't academic enough for him to cite...

"energy rationing" is already a name

Yea, but it's more of an economics term.

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joined Aug 8, 2020

Damn Neeko is me. This shit hurted.

Runrin-icon-wrd-2
joined Feb 9, 2019

the spoons thing is just a useful metaphor to explain some of the ways metal illness affects one's day-to-day life. i use it when talking to people who have a hard time understanding what depression/anxiety means for me personally.

neeko being exhausted for days after doing something so intense is something that i experience too.

Internet_lied
joined Jul 15, 2016

the spoons thing is just a useful metaphor to explain some of the ways metal illness affects one's day-to-day life. i use it when talking to people who have a hard time understanding what depression/anxiety means for me personally.

neeko being exhausted for days after doing something so intense is something that i experience too.

While the term has primarily been used in the mental illness context, I think it applies more broadly, too. Because consciousness is a biological process, it makes sense that the same rules of exhaustion apply to the brain as to muscles: both can get exhausted after using them for long enough. It's just that for people with mental illness, this limit is much more apparent, just like a person with an arm injury will not be able to carry heavy stuff very far. Then again, a bodily injury is often obvious to an outside observer, while mental illness is not, and furthermore, things like maintaining focus for prolonged periods of time is taken for granted by those who've never suffered from mental illness.

TL;DR: Everyone has a limited number of spoons to give, but only people living with mental illness have to ration them in day-to-day life.

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