You seem to be trying to force the situation to adhere to your personal viewpoint which is why everyone's disagreeing with you.

I'm certainly not trying to force the situation to adhere to my personal viewpoint. I'm just telling how the situation seem to me and my opinion and I'm totally fine with everyone's disagreeing with me. It just mean that I have different implications and opinions opposed to everyone here. Even I have different implication on some anime and manga, than I used to have when I was younger. Maybe I'll read this manga again in the future and maybe at that time, future me would have the different implication and different opinions than I currently have.

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You seem to be trying to force the situation to adhere to your personal viewpoint which is why everyone's disagreeing with you.

I'm certainly not trying to force the situation to adhere to my personal viewpoint. I'm just telling how the situation seem to me and my opinion and I'm totally fine with everyone's disagreeing with me. It's just mean I have different implications and opinions opposed to everyone here. Even I have different implication on some anime and manga, than I used to have when I was younger. Maybe I'll read this manga again in the future and maybe at that time, future me would have the different implication and different opinions than I currently have.

i half agree with you tbh. there are plenty of ways mai could move on without confessing. the whole thing was about her running away, and she DIDN'T need to confess to confront the truth. she was in love with nanoha, but nanhoa was already in a relationship, and very much in love. that's all she needed to know and accept, and move on. what she does from there is up to her. confessing is honestly quite pointless imo. obviously nanoha would reject her. everyone knew that. there was no "well maybe..." chance. BUT, a choice she did have, was to wait and hope. who is to say nanoha and chidori would be together for ever? if she confessed now, it's a definite no. but if they later break up, and mai still likes her, who's to say what her response would be then? although same could still be said even if she confesses and gets a no. could still try it again later. OR, accept that nanoha and chidori are together, and very happy, and move on. you don't have to get rejected by someone to do that.

although again another way to look at it is, instead of really being a confession, it was more of a goodbye for her love. the confession WAS her moving on. it's like when you tell someone you're angry with them. she was getting the emotions she had been burying for so long out, instead of bottling it up anymore. and maybe THAT'S why chidori encouraged her to do it. not for the confession, or to be fair, but she recognized the pain mai was in and knew she needed to get those emotions out of her. idk, it can go both ways imo.

but what WOULDN'T have been fair, was make chidori keep this huge secret. she is too honest and it would have eaten her up inside.

https://dynasty-scans.com/chapters/hana_ni_arashi_ch80#11

Chidori, you just got out of the bath, put on your PJs, and the only place you're going is to bed. Why on earth would you put that ankle bracelet back on? Really committing to the look, girl.

This latest arc, and the end of the Mai-storyline, really made me fall in love with Chidori's character again. She's the type of person who's selfless to a fault, and as someone who's constantly accused of the same I so identify with her and love her all the more for it. She would help Mai find closure with her love even if she herself didn't like it, that takes some strength and courage most people wouldn't be able to muster.

Not to mention Mai's courage. Like people here have said, she keeps running away. She keeps holding on to the What-Ifs, Buts and Maybes that would allow her love to flourish in her own fantasy. Yet she keeps bashing herself over it, she keeps telling herself she shouldn't be doing this while at the same time being unable to let go. She would much rather suffer herself than try to get in the way of the happiness of the one she loves, that's strength! Yet she finally lets go of that for a moment, finally selfishly confessing in order to give herself closure. She know she will be rejected, because she know how much Nanoha and Chidori loves one another. It's closing a chapter in her own head, finally being able to throw the towel into the ring and being done with it. It takes courage to finally take the step to let go.

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https://dynasty-scans.com/chapters/hana_ni_arashi_ch80#11

Chidori, you just got out of the bath, put on your PJs, and the only place you're going is to bed. Why on earth would you put that ankle bracelet back on? Really committing to the look, girl.

It's not about the look. Remember.

Oh I remember when Mai first appeared. Everyone in this thread was up in arms, giving her all the hate in the world. Wasn't too long til the opinions changed and she became liked.
I just love how Mai's role was to suffer her feelings this whole time, that even her eyelashes were expressing tragedy. Best side character so far.

Be less obvious?!?! But you hardly ever kiss! If anything you should be more obvious!

(Forum drama? What forum drama? Haven't seen anything)

^ Ah, I see you too saw that there was an argument, but just skipped the comments that are part of it, just like me.

Be less obvious?!?! But you hardly ever kiss! If anything you should be more obvious!

I just re-read this whole series, and I think that one notable aspect of the created storyworld is that it works several different ways simultaneously in regard to perhaps its central theme—the “public” attitudes toward same-sex romantic relationships. The key element, of course, is the “secret” nature of Nanoha and Chidori’s love relationship.

This is best encapsulated by two contrasting examples:

• Abe-chan and Yoshida-senpai (the two students whose offstage confession scene is simultaneous with the MCs’). Their relationship is seen as unusual enough to be remarked upon, but also within the bounds of possibility—the other girls immediately want to go “tease” them about it, which suggests that it’s somehow “normal”—if it were a real taboo, they would be horrified and not know how to act.

• Igarashi’s response to learning about Nanoha and Chidori’s relationship—she’s astounded that such a thing is even possible, even though she herself has felt a same-sex attraction.

Now, this could be because Abe & Yoshida is accepted as a “Type S” girls’-school relationship, while Igarashi understands that N & C are seriously in love, which would be scandalous if publicly known.

Beyond that, a full re-read brings home just how commonly the larger group of friends indulges in highly flirty, non-romantic but quasi-sexual behavior—looking at boobs, touching, etc. Whenever Chidori and Nanoha’s romance threatens to reveal itself in public, it gets turned into a group thing, like the accidental “Love you” text that went to the whole group, when Chidori comforting Nanoha in fear of lightning becomes a group hug, etc.

The main point is that, while it’s a given in the group that Nanoha and Chidori are best-friends/partners, unless the observer is someone like Mai who already knows that they’re romantically involved and is keenly watching them looking for evidence, their everyday behavior just gets normalized by the girl’s-school touchy-feely ethos.

(In fact, Nanoha and Chidori’s behavior should be most suspicious to the other girls when they suddenly act guilty if they’re caught touching, if they suddenly scoot away from each other, etc.)

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Man, I was enjoying this, but the Stormy School Trip drama seems soooo dumb. Nanoha's dumb. "I played at being angry and now she's angry and I'm scared and angry" even though it's ALL YOUR FAULT.

Great stuff looking forward to the rest I really wanna see the Manager confess to Mai-Chan it would be really nice to see Mai actually get into a relationship.

I love Chidori but her forehead got its own orbit. I must roast her with care.

I love Chidori but her forehead got its own orbit. I must roast her with care.

what! i love her forehead :(
she's gorgeous and we must protect her :)

I love Chidori but her forehead got its own orbit.

And her breasts have their own galaxy

I love Chidori but her forehead got its own orbit.

And her breasts have their own galaxy

Each.

I think that the point of Chidori encouraging Mai to confess wasn't so much for Mai as it was for Nanoha. Chidori could tell that Mai's intention was to avoid Nanoha like the plague and pretty much disappear from her life, very much like Igarashi did to her back when she was a freshman. I think she felt like, even though she was happier dating Nanoha, she never really got closure with Igarashi until Nanoha forced the issue earlier in the year. And it was clear that Nanoha was starting to feel that way as she sent texts to Mai that went unanswered.

So my take on it was that Chidori was trying to prevent Nanoha from feeling like her friend had abandoned her without any idea why and Mai not having regrets and getting closure was a byproduct of that.

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So my take on it was that Chidori was trying to prevent Nanoha from feeling like her friend had abandoned her without any idea why and Mai not having regrets and getting closure was a byproduct of that.

Bingo. (Although Chidori being a kind person and Mai being basically a good egg herself made that intervention possible.)

Am I the only one that bothered by the fact that Senpai is spelled as "Sempai"?

It's common localization of it. When spoken, Senpai is read as Sempai, so to make it easier for readers to read properly, I guess, it's often written as Sempai. As far as I know at least, translator here could have different reason to write it like that.

Am I the only one that bothered by the fact that Senpai is spelled as "Sempai"?

I spell it as "sempai" because that's how it's pronounced. ん isn't the same as "n". The moraic nasal is pronounced differently depending on the following sound. Before the bilabial consonants, "m", "b", and "p", it takes the form of the bilabial nasal, "m". That's why "tempura" is the standard spelling, not "tenpura".

It's common localization of it. When spoken, Senpai is read as Sempai, so to make it easier for readers to read properly, I guess, it's often written as Sempai. As far as I know at least, translator here could have different reason to write it like that.

It's not a "localization", it's a choice of romanization. Different romanization systems have different priorities. Some always render ん as "n" for the sake of allowing consistent transliteration between kana and the roman alphabet. That's an important consideration in translation textbooks or academic papers on linguistics, but it's completely unnecessary in fiction translations aimed for an English-speaking audience. Other romanization systems change how ん is rendered for the sake of informing readers how words are pronounced, and I think this is a much higher priority in these types of translations. Ultimately, there is no perfect romanization system, so I go with what I think best fulfills the needs of manga readers.

Also, so far as I know, basically no scanlators consistently follow any of the formal romanization systems. According to the Kunreisiki system, "senpai" is correct, but "shi" and "chi" are wrong (し is "si", and ち is "ti). According to the Hepburn system, "sempai" is correct, as are "shi" and "chi". Over the years, lots of people have told me that "sempai" is wrong and I should be writing it as "senpai", but I've never seen anyone complain that "chan" is wrong and I'm supposed to be writing it as "tyan". According to these complaints, the right way to transliterate Japanese is to follow most of the rules of Hepburn, except for the one that says that ん should be written as "m" before bilabial consonants. Oh, and Hepburn uses vowels macrons for extended vowels, while Kunreisiki uses accents, but no scanlators use either.

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I'm aware that there are different way to romanizing and no one is really "correct" or "official". That's the way I was taught, so I stick to it.

I feel like what Chidori did in Ch 81 was completely unnecessary. Why would she tell Mai to tell Nanoha(her girlfriend) her true feeling? Somethings are better left unsaid. And now drama (which could’ve been avoided easily) happened. And it’s not only Mai who would be hurt hurt. Nanoha also would be hurt too.

Yeah no, those kinds of things are better to be told. At least Mai would have a proper answer to her feelings and can move on from that rejection. She is not bound by her love for Nanoha. And the drama has in fact been avoided by making the confession,

Mai already know that she doesn't stand a chance and while getting clear answer make easier for people to move on, it's still up to people. Many people move on without getting rejected. And some people couldn't move on even after getting rejected clearly. The most important thing is that they WANT to move on. But that's not my main problem here. My main problem is that Chidori is the one who tell Mai to confess to Nanoha. As I said in my last post, you just DON'T tell someone to confess their feeling to your girlfriend no matter how much you trust your girlfriend.

It that's what she wants to do, let her do it. I don't see an issue with this. There's no one way to be in a relationship.

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igenetycs posted:

Hey all, if you're a fan of the series and would like to see it continue, please consider purchasing a copy of the latest volume! Her recent tweets seem to indicate that the series is at significant risk of cancellation: https://twitter.com/kovachi_luka/status/1273874683549462530

I'm not certain that suggests it's at risk of cancellation so much as she can't simply keep writing until they're completely through high school. At the pace they're going that'd be like 200-300 chapters or more and the story progression wouldn't really be able to keep up with that.

igenetycs posted:

Hey all, if you're a fan of the series and would like to see it continue, please consider purchasing a copy of the latest volume! Her recent tweets seem to indicate that the series is at significant risk of cancellation: https://twitter.com/kovachi_luka/status/1273874683549462530

I'm not certain that suggests it's at risk of cancellation so much as she can't simply keep writing until they're completely through high school. At the pace they're going that'd be like 200-300 chapters or more and the story progression wouldn't really be able to keep up with that.

"I really want to keep writing this till they graduate. If you haven't bought the tankoubon yet, I really wish you would" seems to imply that one of those things is related to the other.

But who knows. It's not like she comes right out and says they're going to cancel it. Maybe she just wants people to buy her manga, a common and reasonable desire for a mangaka to have.

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