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joined May 2, 2018

Now I'm a little worried. If your story takes many turns, fumbling one of them doesn't bring down the whole thing. But if your story only takes one turn...

Yuu
joined Mar 28, 2015

Drama in my cute lesbian s.o.l. manga?

I don't believe it.

Ykn1
joined Dec 20, 2018

^Well, people have been expecting drama based on just the title itself since page 2 of this thread, although the way it was worded in at the end of this chapter still suggests a happy ending once we're through that.

joined Jul 31, 2013

Who is this harlot???

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joined Feb 15, 2019

Who is this harlot???

Exactly what I thought too

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joined May 29, 2019

can't wait for the chad nanoha to protect her secret girlfriend from the mysterious traveling harlot

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joined Apr 20, 2013

I feel the "Could you hang out with me for a while? I mean, is not likE yOu ArE daTINg AnYONe RiGht NOw, right? :))))" coming ... What worries me is how or why Chidori (or Nanoha??) would be obliged to accept

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joined Jul 29, 2017

can't wait for the chad nanoha to protect her secret girlfriend from the mysterious traveling harlot

What is a “chad nanoha”?

bubbleteabird
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joined May 8, 2017

y'all mad that the senpai came back in a cliche way
and i'm just disappointed because the author didn't use enough cliches for senpai's return.

like for example: the senpai, dressed in an expensive tuxedo, twirls the fake mustache on her lips with her fingers .And she's also puffing on a cigar while stroking a grumpy cat. Also right when she's saying, "I'm curious how's she doing. The cute kouhai I left behind <3," she just nonchalantly kicks a dog and gives the middle finger to a homeless person.

Wooper
joined Oct 25, 2015

Rolling my eyes at the ending, but this manga is still cute. :/

joined May 1, 2013

I'm confused about these most recent chapters. Who are these girls? Do they have some sort of secret where, even though they're girls, they're dating? I need this explained to me.

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joined Jul 29, 2017

I'm confused about these most recent chapters. Who are these girls? Do they have some sort of secret where, even though they're girls, they're dating? I need this explained to me.

Shhhh—nobody’s supposed to know about that.

Or else they’ll get teased really bad by their friends.

Your_hair_has_gotten_longer_by_folksneedheroes-d5l5v69
joined Apr 23, 2015

...

Oh.

Well. I'm try on to be open-minded about this hinted at ... upcoming ... And uninteresting story element.
resists urge to use the curse words

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joined Jul 29, 2017

...

Oh.

Well. I'm try on to be open-minded about this hinted at ... upcoming ... And uninteresting story element.
resists urge to use the curse words

I can never remember the translation of the title, but I take it that it suggests something along the lines of “something bad’s gonna happen.” And Chidori’s ex (if that’s who this is supposed to be) is about the only remotely unpleasant element we’ve seen in the story so far.

I strongly suspect that anyone who causes trouble for our two lovebirds is ultimately going to get their ass kicked, if only figuratively/emotionally.

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joined Aug 12, 2013

I actually don't mind this development. Sure, it's an often used trope but at least it's not random. There's been a lot of hints about this senpai+love rival in some of the previous chapters.

I can't wait for Nanoha and Chidori to have more than just fluff.

AllosaurusJei
joined Nov 7, 2017

DRAMA INCOMING!

FLUFFY SQUADRON, TAKE COVER!

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Yuri Project
joined Jul 14, 2016

When I first read this chapter I was very surprised. I was sure the author had forgotten the name of her manga.

White%20rose%20index
joined Aug 16, 2018

I actually don't mind this development. Sure, it's an often used trope but at least it's not random. There's been a lot of hints about this senpai+love rival in some of the previous chapters.

I can't wait for Nanoha and Chidori to have more than just fluff.

You want them to hold hands? (⁰͡ ͜ʖ⁰͡ )

It might have happened already... I'd have to reread to be sure...

White%20rose%20index
joined Aug 16, 2018

What IS it with yuri manga and throwing in the shot of the "mysterious" woman in trendy clothes walking through a terminal or a train station to show that she's coming from somewhere far away? And having her say something ambiguous that obviously hints at a history with one of the leading ladies? There's clichés and then there's this!

Why, it's the yuri version of the mysterious stranger who appears in similar circumstances in practically every mainstream romantic manga (both shounen and shoujo) out there. The one whose sudden arrival spells big trouble for the romance of the MCs and lotsa thrills for the readers.

Japanese audiences sure love their clichés. ¯⧹_(ツ)_⧸¯

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joined Feb 28, 2019

I'm not really against the cliché trope since I'm in it for the development of their relationship and overprotective girlfriend/s is the best tea

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Yuri Project
joined Jul 14, 2016

What IS it with yuri manga and throwing in the shot of the "mysterious" woman in trendy clothes walking through a terminal or a train station to show that she's coming from somewhere far away? And having her say something ambiguous that obviously hints at a history with one of the leading ladies? There's clichés and then there's this!

Why, it's the yuri version of the mysterious stranger who appears in similar circumstances in practically every mainstream romantic manga

I don't really know how anyone can call Igarashi "mysterious". We know who she is, we know her name, and we know quite a bit about her relationship with Chidori, even if all the details are as yet unclear. We probably know more about her personal history than we do of any of the other characters except the main two. That's not really a "mystery woman".

Untitled
joined May 2, 2018

What IS it with yuri manga and throwing in the shot of the "mysterious" woman in trendy clothes walking through a terminal or a train station to show that she's coming from somewhere far away? And having her say something ambiguous that obviously hints at a history with one of the leading ladies? There's clichés and then there's this!

Why, it's the yuri version of the mysterious stranger who appears in similar circumstances in practically every mainstream romantic manga

I don't really know how anyone can call Igarashi "mysterious". We know who she is, we know her name, and we know quite a bit about her relationship with Chidori, even if all the details are as yet unclear. We probably know more about her personal history than we do of any of the other characters except the main two. That's not really a "mystery woman".

We don't know it's Igarashi, and whoever it is we don't know who she's referring to. I don't think Igarashi would refer to the girl who dumped/rejected her as "the cute kouhai we left behind <3".

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MidnightPumpkin
joined May 6, 2019

I don't think Igarashi would refer to the girl who dumped/rejected her as "the cute kouhai we left behind <3".

The literal translation is "The kouhai-chan from after graduation ♡" (卒業した後の後輩ちゃん♡), but that sounds awkward in English. The "cute", "we", "left behind" are not in the original. I haven't read ahead, so this nitpick might be completely irrelevant, but it's important in the sense that we shouldn't start speculating based on translation word choices.

However, if she was Igarashi and referring to Chidori, she wouldn't refer to her as "The kouhai-chan from after graduation", since Chidori already rejected her while they were both students (chap. 23).

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Yuri Project
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The literal translation is "The kouhai-chan from after graduation ♡" (卒業した後の後輩ちゃん♡), but that sounds awkward in English. The "cute", "we", "left behind" are not in the original. I haven't read ahead, so this nitpick might be completely irrelevant, but it's important in the sense that we shouldn't start speculating based on translation word choices.

The meaning is not "from after graduation"; a "literal" translation would be something like "after-I-graduated-kouhai-chan." In Japanese, generally there are a variety of possible ways an attributive clause interacts with the head noun, but it's usually clear in context. In this case, "the kouhai I graduated from" or "my old kouhai now that I've graduated" seems like the obvious meaning. My word choice was based on that interpretation.

As for the "cute", I needed to use "kouhai" as a noun rather than as a name or term of address because of the way the statement is structured. I try to only use honorifics on terms of address, and ideally only on actual names: "the kouhai-chan" just reads very poorly. So I wrote "the cute kouhai" instead, as it conveys the same meaning and feeling; the "-chan" here is basically a term of endearment.

The "we" is a bit of a guess. It's unclear who she's speaking to, since we can only see one side of the conversation. Based on the way she's speaking, I thought she could be talking to a friend from high school who'd graduated with her. Probably someone who stayed in or around Tohoku, whereas she herself went to university elsewhere.

Generally, I think you're right. If the translator is very good, then you can read a lot into their words about implied meanings in the text. If the translator is like me, then sometimes we fail to consider potential alternate readings of our words (or just screw up) and accidentally imply something that is incorrect. When a statement is ambiguous or has multiple meanings, it's very hard to properly convey those hints or alternate readings in a different language.

I wrote this translation after I already read the next couple volumes, so later events influenced how I resolved ambiguities in the text. I believe I remember thinking this was Igarashi when I first read it, but maybe it's not as obvious as I thought.

Selfie
joined Aug 25, 2018

oh, good... we've finally reached that point. I was wondering when the new character inserted solely to add drama was going to appear -_-

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