it sucks that they're in a situation where they feel like that HAVE to be together just because they both swing the same way. hoping for miwa to break up with her so she can find someone she's actually happy with

Ugh. That blonde needs to -- no respect.

Still happy with the realism here. If thought reality brought annoyance.

"Skank" "Messed up" "Slut" "The worst"
Sniff, poor Rika, people here are really hating on her...
She's just trying to help Miwa, y'know? She's hetero with a passion, she has loads of male lovers, but she's perfectly fine with her schoolmates being lesbians -- and, even more, she tries to be supportive of their relationship and wants to help Miwa by giving her advice. She really doesn't deserve all the heat she's getting.

hjyfun posted:

it sucks that they're in a situation where they feel like that HAVE to be together just because they both swing the same way. hoping for miwa to break up with her so she can find someone she's actually happy with

From what we can tell on the chapter, they were having a pretty good time during their date.Yes, they don't agree on everything and she's different from her dreamed partner... but does that mean that they can't be together? you need to let yourself be loved and learn to love, I'm happy that they're trying.

Knowing the end of their relationship makes it hard for me to emotionally invest in it

At least now we see why they broke up. I think Saeko should be with Rika and Miwa with Ushi. But as it is I guess both couples have a boi/tachi & femme/neko thing going on.

Have they had sex in the actual series? I assumed they had. The first pages of the first chapter is of them in bed after all.

Nice messed up advice from Rika at the end of that chapter there, really like the whole pressuring someone to have sex idea

I think we can all see that Miwa and Saeko are two very different people and the likelihood is that they won't work as a couple, but I still like this as it's something different from the usual clichés. I think it's a very human thing to try and make a relationship work that you know isn't right for you, especially if you're gay and have less to choose from

I don't understand all these people complaining about not caring since they won't end up together in the end. I find stories about failed but nonetheless productive relationships just as compelling as those that succeed.

On the other hand, the ending isn't even quite set in stone either. The author could easily continue the story past the end of the one-shot and bring them back together after they have been separated for some time.

Either way, subbed!

hjyfun posted:

it sucks that they're in a situation where they feel like that HAVE to be together just because they both swing the same way. hoping for miwa to break up with her so she can find someone she's actually happy with

From what we can tell on the chapter, they were having a pretty good time during their date.Yes, they don't agree on everything and she's different from her dreamed partner... but does that mean that they can't be together? you need to let yourself be loved and learn to love, I'm happy that they're trying.

I agree, it's good that they got the opportunity to date and learn about themselves. But I feel at this point, Miwa is just settling rather than going out and finding the best person for herself that she can. She sort of hinted at her discomfort and how unsure she was about the relationship at the end of this chapter. I think the saddest relationships are ones where one person just ends up settling with the other and they aren't actually a good match. Maybe there will be some sort of turning point or communication adjustment that will bring them closer? That would be nice

I'm still enjoying the series though! No hate, just some commentary on the relationship itself

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Finally! Been waiting forever for this

Poor Miwa, her idealized image of penguins being utter cuteness has been shattered.

Nice messed up advice from Rika at the end of that chapter there, really like the whole pressuring someone to have sex idea

I think we can all see that Miwa and Saeko are two very different people and the likelihood is that they won't work as a couple, but I still like this as it's something different from the usual clichés. I think it's a very human thing to try and make a relationship work that you know isn't right for you, especially if you're gay and have less to choose from

^this. I was in that situation not too long ago. I don't know any gay girls, so I just dated the very first one I met. I just thought that if I'd give it time my feelings would grow more and we'd adapt to each other, but in reality we were anything but a match. I'm kind of glad she decided to get back together with her ex, even if it was a dickmove, cause I don't think I would've been able to force myself out of it on my own.
It's just such a relief to finally be dating someone, that you tend to deny and ignore, or are maybe just oblivious to all the obvious signs that it's just not gonna work out and you need to find someone who's more fitting, even if that means being single for another few more years.

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Rika is amazing. she's so shitty. Miwa and Saeko's date was great, too. i'm impressed that this comic continues being so funny and charming.

linda2100 posted:

Uhh, that blonde is a little messed up in the head, what a shitty advise she gave.

Hehe why u as yet perusing this story that has a horrendous completion huh? They both are lesbians xd yet their end is horrible...I'm not perusing this story (I favored pass it and overlook) however you're harming yourself perusing this xd...if u like it, go on xd

Weren't you supposed to leave? no one gives a fuck

This last chapter is a pretty good example of relationship dynamics when one is young and inexperienced. Fear of committing to the wrong person, external factors trying to sabotage, misaligned libidos...

linda2100 posted:

Uhh, that blonde is a little messed up in the head, what a shitty advise she gave.

Hehe why u as yet perusing this story that has a horrendous completion huh? They both are lesbians xd yet their end is horrible...I'm not perusing this story (I favored pass it and overlook) however you're harming yourself perusing this xd...if u like it, go on xd

Weren't you supposed to leave? no one gives a fuck

I’d say it’s a ‘bot based on the idiot-thesaurus word substitutions, but I’m pretty sure it’s just an idiot.

She's just trying to help Miwa, y'know? She's hetero with a passion, she has loads of male lovers, but she's perfectly fine with her schoolmates being lesbians -- and, even more, she tries to be supportive of their relationship and wants to help Miwa by giving her advice. She really doesn't deserve all the heat she's getting.

Mm yeah. Rika's a good girl. People should stop hatin' on her.

This last chapter is a pretty good example of relationship dynamics when one is young and inexperienced. Fear of committing to the wrong person, external factors trying to sabotage, misaligned libidos...

Yeah, when you've spent a lot of time and energy being confused about how to get in to a relationship, you're still utterly clueless about how, when, and why you'd get out of one. Barring some obvious incompatibility, abuse, deal-breaking behavior, etc., you question, "Is this the normal level of happiness/contentment that people have in relationships?" "Am I expecting too much, am I doing too little?" "Would I even have a chance at another relationship ever again?" "My partner is just trying to be nice, so why am I so annoyed?" and so on.

Hearing someone say, "It's not you--it's me" is horrible, but so is saying it and meaning it.

Hehe why u still reading this story that has a terrible ending huh? They both are lesbians xd but their end is horrible...I'm not reading this story (I preferred pass it and forget) but you're hurting yourself reading this xd...if u like it, go on xd

I don't get people who sprinkle obnoxious text emotes in their writing. The heck is "xd" supposed to convey?

I don’t get the “together at the end” junkies—not even “happy ending” junkies, necessarily, but the ones who think that when any two lesbians are together in a story, they need to be together at the end, no matter how clearly the story shows that being together is not actually a good outcome for the characters. Otherwise, the story is “trash,” “useless,” they feel betrayed by the author, etc.

Meanwhile, stories that handwave away every problem and conflict in order to get to “together ever after,” no matter how perfunctory or preposterous the solutions, are regarded as masterpieces of “feels.”

Well, I kind of do get them, actually, but I really don’t get the subset of them who feel compelled to write aggressive, obnoxious, (and usually barely literate) attacks on people who don’t share their priorities.

So, I guess that u have faith that this will end in a different way?
Oh right, let's think of the author think the same way...
Pd. When this show the break up...I'll back
Pd.2: Did I attack someone? I just said my point of view but you are who get offended, with that I've nothing to do with it
Pd.3: If this end in a different way, like they stay together I'll accept my mistake

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Hehe why u still reading this story that has a terrible ending huh? They both are lesbians xd but their end is horrible...I'm not reading this story (I preferred pass it and forget) but you're hurting yourself reading this xd...if u like it, go on xd

I don't get people who sprinkle obnoxious text emotes in their writing. The heck is "xd" supposed to convey?

I don’t get the “together at the end” junkies—not even “happy ending” junkies, necessarily, but the ones who think that when any two lesbians are together in a story, they need to be together at the end, no matter how clearly the story shows that being together is not actually a good outcome for the characters. Otherwise, the story is “trash,” “useless,” they feel betrayed by the author, etc.

Meanwhile, stories that handwave away every problem and conflict in order to get to “together ever after,” no matter how perfunctory or preposterous the solutions, are regarded as masterpieces of “feels.”

Well, I kind of do get them, actually, but I really don’t get the subset of them who feel compelled to write aggressive, obnoxious, (and usually barely literate) attacks on people who don’t share their priorities.

So, I guess that u have faith that this will end in a different way?
Oh right, let's think of the author think the same way...
Pd. When this show the break up...I'll back
Pd.2: Did I attack someone? I just said my point of view but you are who get offended, with that I've nothing to do with it

Your reading skills are the equal of your writing ability. Let me restate so even you (excuse me, “u”) might possibly understand:

I don’t really care how it ends as long as the story is well-told, as so far it is.

Hehe why u still reading this story that has a terrible ending huh? They both are lesbians xd but their end is horrible...I'm not reading this story (I preferred pass it and forget) but you're hurting yourself reading this xd...if u like it, go on xd

I don't get people who sprinkle obnoxious text emotes in their writing. The heck is "xd" supposed to convey?

I don’t get the “together at the end” junkies—not even “happy ending” junkies, necessarily, but the ones who think that when any two lesbians are together in a story, they need to be together at the end, no matter how clearly the story shows that being together is not actually a good outcome for the characters. Otherwise, the story is “trash,” “useless,” they feel betrayed by the author, etc.

Meanwhile, stories that handwave away every problem and conflict in order to get to “together ever after,” no matter how perfunctory or preposterous the solutions, are regarded as masterpieces of “feels.”

Well, I kind of do get them, actually, but I really don’t get the subset of them who feel compelled to write aggressive, obnoxious, (and usually barely literate) attacks on people who don’t share their priorities.

So, I guess that u have faith that this will end in a different way?
Oh right, let's think of the author think the same way...
Pd. When this show the break up...I'll back
Pd.2: Did I attack someone? I just said my point of view but you are who get offended, with that I've nothing to do with it

Your reading skills are the equal of your writing ability. Let me restate so even you (excuse me, “u”) might possibly understand:

I don’t really care how it ends as long as the story is well-told, as so far it is.

I don't wanna start a fight so I will ignore this...and maybe no one cares what I'm gonna said but: ----> Ending>>>>>>>>story...
Almost all the people based in that thing when they gonna watch or read something...besides, it isn't a waste of time read something that at the end is bad? But how I said before, toxic people, if you liked I respect that

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Ending>>>>>>>>story...

Once upon a time, they lived happily ever after.

Enjoy.

Ending>>>>>>>>story...

Once upon a time, they lived happily ever after.

Enjoy.

I will be honest, yes, that is and more, happy Yuri in this cruel world

Oh wow... a realistic relationship in the process of failing. And when you're gay, it keeps nagging at you that it may be your only chance in life to be in a relationship at all.

This hits a bit too close home to be comfortable to read.