Caku posted:

I'm withholding judgment on wether the guy is garbage or not depending on how he handles the situation afterwards, but either way he did recklessly endanger others with his actions. My mind goes to one of the first rules of gun safety: never point a firearm at anything you aren't okay destroying. Things like this are dangerous and accidents can happen, even if you're doing everything else right, so at the very least always keep it pointed away from things you don't want to harm. He didn't take the time to verify what was down range, and someone got hurt because of it

Technically, there wasn't anything down range from his target. The issue was a ricochet, so it's more a matter of not verifying that it's safe to shoot whatever you're firing at.

Technically, there wasn't anything down range from his target. The issue was a ricochet, so it's more a matter of not verifying that it's safe to shoot whatever you're firing at.

Yeah, no, Caku is right that Serina and Almelia were behind the cockatrice, you can verify it in page 22 chapter 9, the cockatrice is in view and facing away from the girls and towards the prince.

Almelia's carriage was ahead from the prince's, and the monster overturned the prince's from the horse side.

Ergo, he fired the magic without checking if the people in the carriage ahead, especially his fiancee, had evacuated the area.

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I'm slightly fascinated by how the discussion focused on some kind of accident reconstruction and magic safety regulations. Magic doesn't kill people, I do!

Technically, there wasn't anything down range from his target. The issue was a ricochet, so it's more a matter of not verifying that it's safe to shoot whatever you're firing at.

Yeah, no, Caku is right that Serina and Almelia were behind the cockatrice, you can verify it in page 22 chapter 9, the cockatrice is in view and facing away from the girls and towards the prince.

Almelia's carriage was ahead from the prince's, and the monster overturned the prince's from the horse side.

Ergo, he fired the magic without checking if the people in the carriage ahead, especially his fiancee, had evacuated the area.

Ah. You are correct. That makes his actions significantly worse.

Goddamn that's a nasty injury in that cliffhanger o_o Poor Serina. Getting a hand ripped off is a major life threatening injury due to the shock and blood loss, but fiction rarely ever considers that. Kinda like when people are shot in the shoulder and are mostly okay lol. Anyway, sure hope they can regrow that hand...

I guess she'll be all right now.

As said before, I'm not saying he isn't responsible for the consequences of his actions, only that calling him "garbage" may be going too far in this situation.

If someone, out of a misplaced sense of ego, pulled out a gun in a public area and shot at a criminal in a non-life threatening situation that's already under control by other parties to prove his masculinity, and in the process hit a bystander, what would you call that person then?

Since his life was directly threatened by the monster and only the tail was under control, this really doesn't apply here, though. Perfectly normal reaction, especially for someone who has been training to fight such beasts for most of his life, even if he may have gone overboard with the amount of power used, but that is not something easily judged in such a situation even without his personal issues coming into play. I really don't like having to defend a character who so far has been shown less likeability than the fiancé from Run Away With Me, Girl, but I stand by my opinion that "garbage" is going too far.

I maintain that his life was absolutely not being threatened on the basis of two points:

1. His guards explicitly told him to evacuate, and even if he didn't trust their competency or judgment in the situation, he knew Almelia was nearby and more than capable of handling a cockatrice on her own. If the situation was as dire as you are trying to portray it as, why did nobody else seem to be attacking recklessly the way he was?

2. His moment of panic that led to the incident was preceded by him flashing back to being humiliated by Almelia, a situation that likewise also not life threatening at the time. Would he really be thinking about the time his ego was wounded if he was afraid of imminent death?

In other words, I think it is safe to assert that he was not scared for his life, he was scared of looking incompetent again, and nearly killed someone because of it - it was only the quick thinking and bravery of another party that it "only" resulted in an ostensibly life threatening injury.

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