And like that, you've invalidated everything you could possibly have to say about the matter.

Ok. I'm sure that works in your favor. Now, what about all the other responses? They don't count too?

I was, however, at little bit disappointed about how quickly Serina's hand situation was resolved, especially since the first few pages have been very good at treating it like a real career-ending traumatic injury that it definitely was. I admit that her powers have been foreshadowed and, if you squint hard enough, they can be stretch to cover limb regeneration, but I am personally much more interested in the interactions that happened between Serina and Amelia during those 10 days than in what came after. Then again, I am a sucker for hurt/comfort fics, so maybe it's me who's being weird.

That would have been great, actually. Some also wanted a mechanical hand. I think we'll get more of those moments in the next chapters. They did end the engagement in public which might also wound the sensitive prince's pride again so we'll see if he is truly gone.

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Seriously, how do people say things this crazy and not hear it themselves?

Pot, meet kettle.

Also misandry isn't real :^)

As I already discussed and was emphasized by the maid this chapter, no he was not in a life or death situation, his guards had it under control, not to mention Almelia. You do not start thinking about your wounded pride like he did if you are about to die, you think about your impending death. His disproportionate response was all about proving himself strong and capable.

I didn't say he was in a life-or-death situation, I said he had a life-or-death panic, which is not the same thing.
He saw a giant monster show up out of nowhere right in front of him and had a perfectly normal fight-response to a perceived threat against his person and the people around him.

Yes it resulted in disaster and yes it wasn't a good solution, but spur-of-the-moment panic reactions seldom are.
Furthermore, the story does explicitly state and show that he acknowledges his mistake and fully intended to both apologize and make amends in whatever way he could, to such an extent that he wouldn't even allow his servants to take over the responsibility of arranging it even when requested to do so by said serving staff.

The fact that you lot somehow are under the delusion that this is in any way indicative of deep callousness and narcisissm on his part is absolutely wild.

Not out of a sense of guilt or compassion. Because in his words, he is capable of "clearing up the mistakes he caused." Since he was surprised by the regrowth, he evidently not once bothered to actually have someone tell him about Serina's condition and how she's doing given that she had her arm obliterated by him.

This is literally just you leaping to random assumptions to validate your irrational judgment.
You don't know if he felt any guilt, and the mere fact that he is apologizing and working on the compensation personally despite being a literal prince who could've just not bothered and been just fine is evidence to the exact opposite of what you're supposing; he clearly does understand that he messed up and does sincerely feel a need to make genuine amends.

You can't simply "assume" he doesn't care just because he hasn't asked about the specifics of her health in a few days, he's a literal prince ffs, he's got shit to do and he already knows she lost an arm and has no reason to think anything about that has or would change.

You'd think her mental and physical condition would be on his mind, but it wasn't. (probably because he didnt give a fuck, but what do I know.) So once again, it's about his ego - which was why he wanted the steward to not get involved or assist him, so he can prove himself strong and capable.

This is literally just more assumption bullshit.

So instead of being happy that nobody got maimed, he assumed he was fooled by, in your words, a ploy. Which in his own words "makes a fool out of [him]," indicating that his rage is the direct result of looking neither strong nor capable.

There is no choice being made in this situation lol, he lives in a medieval society that, while yes it has magic, it's well known and established that regrowing limbs is simply not possible.

Therefor, when someone he believes he has maimed by mistake shows up with their limb magically back, how would it in any way make sense to assume she just happened to randomly performed a medical miracle?

How does it NOT make perfect sense to instead assume something much more rational and possible?
For instance, that the person was clearly never actually injured in the first place, since healing said injury should be medically impossible. But why would they then have lied about being injured? Oh right, he's a crown prince of the f***king kingdom who probably gets people trying to scam their way into the royal family's influence on the daily.

His assumption makes complete and utter sense from his perspective, it just so happens to not be true, and does not in any way actually indicate any undue ego beyond what would be required to hold his station in the monarchy.

He is garbage. And you are making excuses for him when it is literally all about his ego to prove himself strong and capable. Is it a human response? Oh yes, I've met many people like him in the past. They're the type of scumbags that bludgeon their wife to death with a golf trophy over their feelings.

More baseless assumptions of malicious intent completely disregarding any and all context and the specifics of the situation. I'm beginning to see a pattern here.

Misandry
lol

Trying to pretend misandry isn't real.
lol

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Anyways… That prince is a bitch. He won’t admit he almost killed his fiancée and her maid (who’s still a noble albeit lower class) suffered a big injury with multiple witnesses to it because of his incompetence and pride.

He could think the hand itself was a trick, an illusion, but to accuse the injury of being nonexistance shows how much of a bad person he is. Him snapping at her is a proof of his character. If he had done something like accept the refusal for compensation and said something like “I apologize for the distress” (half assed excuse, not even mean it) and then LEFT, we wouldn’t have had to be HUMILIATED by his now ex-fiancée… So, yeah, that bitch deserved it.

Trying to pretend misandry isn't real.
lol

Can you think of examples where so called misandry has shaped laws, institutions, or systemic practices in a way that disadvantages men? Do not include the ones that are born from patriarchal ideals and toxic masculinity, but purely from believing men are less than women. I am gonna wait.

friend, i know you think you're rolling with the punches but you're actually just making yourself look more foolish. maybe take a minute to reflect why everyone is disagreeing with you. here's a hint, it has nothing to do with the specific details of the characters' actions in this fantasy story.

So much misandry in here, sheesh

This has to be a joke. Misandry? Did you really read any of these comments or is the prince's tendency to overreact and misread situations shared? I'm really not sure how we're not getting what the author is communicating. This chapter doubled down to make things even clearer, even more blunt, yet still? He has major character flaws, and they were the focus of these two chapters.

The fact that you think this chapter made his character less nuanced is absolutely wild to me.

Man sees a monster attacking and panic-attacks it, accidentally injuring a bystander in the process.
Man acknowledges that he screwed up and pledges to apologize and make amends however he can.
Man (rationally) thinks he's been scammed when the victim is suddenly magically healed of an injury that is widely known for a fact to be impossible to recover from and (rationally but incorrectly) assumes it must have been a ploy to garner influence over his family, the ROYAL family.

"Wow he's such a toxic person!"

Are you serious?

Trying to pretend misandry isn't real.
lol

Can you think of examples where so called misandry has shaped laws, institutions, or systemic practices in a way that disadvantages men? Do not include the ones that are born from patriarchal ideals and toxic masculinity, but purely from believing men are less than women. I am gonna wait.

And what part of "misandry" says that it has to be part of a system of government in order to be misandry?

Are you just dumb?
Do you not understand the basic concept of "If you assume a thing about someone exclusively because of their gender status as a man, not because there are any facts supporting the assumption, that is misandry."?

friend, i know you think you're rolling with the punches but you're actually just making yourself look more foolish. maybe take a minute to reflect why everyone is disagreeing with you. here's a hint, it has nothing to do with the specific details of the characters' actions in this fantasy story.

It doesn't matter how many people shout that 1+1=3 it's still not true.

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friend, i know you think you're rolling with the punches but you're actually just making yourself look more foolish. maybe take a minute to reflect why everyone is disagreeing with you. here's a hint, it has nothing to do with the specific details of the characters' actions in this fantasy story.

Truly, the biggest hint is in this last chapter, where Serina's image of the Prince is shattered during this moment, which actually signifies her deeper understanding that these are not the same characters she thought she knew from the game. Another moment is when Almelia's characterization, which she knew as someone whose pride was too big to ever apologize, also breaks.

I didn't say he was in a life-or-death situation, I said he had a life-or-death panic, which is not the same thing.
He saw a giant monster show up out of nowhere right in front of him and had a perfectly normal fight-response to a perceived threat against his person and the people around him.

I don't see any point in addressing anything else you wrote when you cannot accept the very basic facts of what occurred.

No, he didn't have a life or death panic, he literally flashed back to when he was humiliated, which by the way, was not a life or death situation. As in, he was remembering the time he looked incompetent next to Almelia. Do you just literally not look at the pictures the author drew? Like I don't understand how you can miss this literal fact. By definition if he wasn't panicking about something that is unrelated to life and death, he is not having a life or death panic.

Like come on he literally was thinking about Almelia killing that cockatrice right there lmao, you can literally see hee in the panel right there in case you missed it, I know it's apparently very subtle. Why would he be thinking about that time she made him feel like he has a smol pp if it wasn't about his ego? Like seriously the author went and made it expressedly clear that he had no reason to react the way he did and you're still trying to do mental gymnastics to make excuses about how he's just a scawed poor widdle boy.

That honestly goes for the rest of the nonsense you wrote anyway. Do you think the author had Almelia point out that he didn't care to check up on the person he mortally injured for 10 days for fun? That his offhand comment "let me handle it i can handle it myself" to the steward was just a throwaway comment? Or perhaps the author is trying to indicate something!!!!

Ffs media literacy is dead.

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Are you just dumb?
Do you not understand the basic concept of "If you assume a thing about someone exclusively because of their gender status as a man, not because there are any facts supporting the assumption, that is misandry."?

Oh name-calling, very telling about your person. Whatever I will ignore that as well as accept the concession from you then. I can tell you don't even know the origin of 'misandry' or by who started to spread it. I don't even know who you are fighting for, a dumbass prince in a yuri manga or for yourself. If it's for yourself, then buddy, I don't care that much about you to even attack you no matter your gender, go take a walk.

No, he didn't have a life or death panic, he literally flashed back to when he was humiliated, which by the way, was not a life or death situation. As in, he was remembering the time he looked incompetent next to Almelia. Do you just literally not look at the pictures the author drew? Like I don't understand how you can miss this literal fact.

https://i.imgur.com/wtEXBti.jpeg

Like come on he literally was thinking about Almelia killing that cockatrice right there lmao. Why would he be thinking about that time she made him feel like he has a smol pp if it wasn't about his ego? Like seriously the author went and made it expressedly clear that he had no reason to react the way he did and you're still trying to do mental gymnastics to make excuses about how he's just a scawed poor widdle boy.

That honestly goes for the rest of the nonsense you wrote anyway. Do you think the author had Almelia point out that he didn't care to check up on the person he mortally injured for 10 days for fun? That his offhand comment "let me handle it i can handle it myself" to the steward was just a throwaway comment? Or perhaps the author is trying to indicate something!!!!

Ffs media literacy is dead.

You're the one making mental gymnastics to justify a position of outrageous bigotry and judgment lol.
You honestly arguing that getting attacked by a giant monster is not a high-pressure situation provoking a reaction you haven't had time to think through just because said reaction had previous events build into it.

That honestly goes for the rest of the nonsense you wrote anyway. Do you think the author had Almelia point out that he didn't care to check up on the person he mortally injured for 10 days for fun? That his offhand comment "let me handle it i can handle it myself" to the steward was just a throwaway comment? Or perhaps the author is trying to indicate something!!!!

Oh look, a point we can agree on! I do agree that the author was trying to show something actually, it's just completely the opposite of what you're thinking.
You think it somehow shows him as being condescending. (Somehow??)
I think it shows he's actually being genuine about the effort since, you know, he's a literal prince who doesn't need to do anything but he's doing this personally anyway even when his servants themselves are arguing he doesn't have to.

I don't see any point in addressing anything else you wrote when you cannot accept the very basic facts of what occurred.

Ah yes, the classic "I don't have any proper argument so I'll just say you're wrong and pretend that arguing is beneath me." method! The hallmark of people stuck in their ways and refusing to even consider the notion of anything else.

Whatever I will ignore that as well as accept the concession from you then. I can tell you don't even know the origin of 'misandry' or by who started to spread it. I don't even know who you are fighting for, a dumbass prince in a yuri manga or for yourself. If it's for yourself, then buddy, I don't care that much about you to even attack you no matter your gender, go take a walk.

Oh look, another one right there! Must be in season.

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Ffs media literacy is dead.

This hurt my heart. I am so very sad over this.

Also at this point this person in the forums might be having a bad day to choose to have this sort of fight in a yuri forum. LMAO.

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Ah yes, the classic "I don't have any proper argument so I'll just say you're wrong and pretend that arguing is beneath me." method! The hallmark of people stuck in their ways and refusing to even consider the notion of anything else.

No, I'm just not gonna put the cart before the horse and argue about his actions afterwards if we can't even agree on the basic premise of the incident. What's the point? Your entire defense is predicated on him being scared for his life. But he wasn't, as the author has made clear repeatedly. I have quoted the manga and provided images to prove my point and you have whined about misandry that doesn't exist when nobody gave Lord Sil shit for being hostile to Almelia in earlier chapters.

You'd think people would be ripping Sylvester to shreds if we were all frothing at the mouth misandrists. Could it be... perhaps, you are mistaken in your ad hom attacks???? No, it is everyone else who is wrong!

You think it somehow shows him as being condescending. (Somehow??)

I missed this cause you don't know how to quote properly, but it might just be because the author had a character who they are obviously trying to portray sympathetically, Almelia (you know it's kinda the premise of the entire story) criticize and slap him for his actions in the past two chapters. Perhaps the author is trying to say the Prince is a bad person. Nah, impossible.

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Ah yes, the classic "I don't have any proper argument so I'll just say you're wrong and pretend that arguing is beneath me." method! The hallmark of people stuck in their ways and refusing to even consider the notion of anything else.

No, I'm just not gonna put the cart before the horse and argue about his actions afterwards if we can't even agree on the basic premise of the incident. What's the point? Your entire defense is predicated on him being scared for his life. But he wasn't, as the author has made clear repeatedly. I have quoted the manga and provided images to prove point and you have whined about misandry that doesn't exist when nobody gave Lord Sil shit for being hostile to Almelia in earlier chapters.

You have not proven a point, you have proven that the previous incident went through his mind at the time and motivated his actions.

That does not in any way shape or form contradict my take on the situation; that he panicked and did the first thing that he thought to do without thinking it through.

Even then, in the interest of engaging with you honestly on this and assuming you've not just dug your heels in, whether he did truly panic or not actually doesn't change my ultimate point that he explicitly acknowledges that he screwed up and will both apologize and make amends for it to the best of his abilities.

If he was truly the ego-monster you accuse him of being, he wouldn't have acknowledged his mistake, wouldn't have decided to apologize when he really isn't under any real pressure to do so and he most certainly would not have "lowered" himself to work on the amends personally rather than have his serving staff just whip something up for him like literally any other noble would have.

He messed up, acknowledged his mistake and has objectively gone farther than what he could've gotten away with and still, you people are somehow seeing this as a negative indicator of his characters.

That is why I call you misandrist, because I can think of no other motivation to the laughable amounts of hate and black-and-white shade being thrown at him for actually having reacted very reasonably to his circumstances.

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Dis gone on longz enuff. The next person to talk bout misandry is gettin' muted.

Edit: Never mind just saw the mod post.

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If he was truly the ego-monster you accuse him of being, he wouldn't have acknowledged his mistake, wouldn't have decided to apologize when he really isn't under any real pressure to do so and he most certainly would not have "lowered" himself to work on the amends personally rather than have his serving staff just whip something up for him like literally any other noble would have.

You say this because you fundamentally misunderstand his character - he could just rely on his lackeys or status yes. That is what some nobles do. But he does not want to look like someone such as Laktasha, (the girl.who hates Almelia) who certainly would try to pay the problem off - he wants to be someone who can, again, in his words, clean up his own mistakes with his own ability.

I will add that that in itself is not bad! The bad part is that the source of this sentiment is his ego, not his compassion. This is why at no point does he show any concern in hurting Serina, he talks about wanting to fix and clean up his own mistake. It is also why he explodes at her once she's no longer injured, she robbed him of the chance to take responsibility and fix things like a proper king should. That is the fundamental reason he got angry at Serina - he is frustrated that once again he is made to look like a fool in over his head that others have to manage.

Ultimately his thoughts are centered solely around himself and not the person he mortally wounded. Ergo, he is a shithead.

If you need an analog for his type of character, look no further than Jimmy in Mouthwashing. Another person who desperately wants to prove they can take responsibility and handle problems like a "man" should. Any help they provide is in service of their own egos and nothing more.

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I wonder if in the next chapter we'll see Sylvester and the rest of the family react to Serina's miraculous recovery, and how Almelia began changing after getting her as maid.

And now that Serina got her game preconceptions shattered by the difference in actions from the prince and Almelia, I hope she will stop acting as a bystander and see what Estelle already saw.

Finally we're getting somewhere!

she robbed him of the chance to take responsibility and fix things like a proper king should.

This part here is what I believe I'm taking issue with in your logic, because it hinges on the assumption that the prince truly believes and accepts that Serina was injured and just so happened to perform a medical miracle out of nowhere, in order for it to then make any sense that his outburst was solely because of being denied the ability to "fix his mistake."

I don't believe that he believes that in the moment, and consequently it makes no sense in my mind to assume that his anger isn't completely genuine because he really does believe that Serina was trying to scam him into being in her debt; he's part of the royal family, that stuff probably does happen to him every day.

That's not to say that his confidence issues don't go into his angry outburst, but IMO they're clearly not the cause for it and therefor doesn't reflect them.

My read of him at this point is that he's ultimately well intentioned but rash, a tad ignorant and has trouble dealing with things that are completely foreign to him.

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One of the more interesting parts of the chapter is how our Gal’s preexisting views of both the Prince and the Villainess were flipped. On the page before Amelia's punch: she thought the Prince was just "rough around the edges but nice" because of what she knew from the game, but it turned out she was way off, and that seemed to shock her (another example of the author being straightforward). She felt she "must've misunderstood something."

She didn't expect the Prince she knew from the game to act so nastily in that moment but she was obviously wrong and I imagine that shock was part of why she cried. On the flip side, her idea of Almelia as someone who has "got too much pride to apologize" got completely turned around in a good way, leading to that touching moment at the end. I'm assuming their relationship will take a larger step now that she's been forced to recognize that this isn't just a game anymore and that real people aren't necessarily like their game versions. I'm looking forward to how/if that change in perception affects her decisions from now on.

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This part here is what I believe I'm taking issue with in your logic, because it hinges on the assumption that the prince truly believes and accepts that Serina was injured and just so happened to perform a medical miracle out of nowhere, in order for it to then make any sense that his outburst was because of being denied the ability to "fix his mistake."

If you really want to approach it with this logic, how does it make any sense whatsoever that Serina would reveal that she wasn't injured at all and that he doesn't need to do anything for her (she literally says this) if she was trying to deceive him for status or money? She would obviously maintain the charade if that was her goal.

Think about the event that forms the entire basis of his character. He is someone who is ultimately middling in talent and continuously gets upstaged by his social inferiors which brings constant frustration to him. My statements line up perfectly with his character. Yours does not and ignores some very crucial circumstantial evidence like the following which I will repeat again:

He did not once talk about Serina's well being. It's why he is shocked by her recovery. You might say that he was busy. Let's have a thought experiment. If you shot someone by accident, would you never bother to check up on their well being even once in over a week because you're "busy"?

If so, then that's rather concerning.

Edit: TBH this is a total waste of time, again, you insist on having an unreasonably charitable interpretation of him that the author is even actively pushing against, there will be no common ground here when we are talking about two different realities. As I said, the events would hardly have played out the way they did if the author was trying to portray him sympathetically. We have a sympathetic male character already and his name is Sylvester, so we obviously know they are capable of doing so if it was their intention.

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I'm assuming their relationship will take a larger step now that she's been forced to recognize that this isn't just a game anymore and that real people aren't necessarily like their game versions. I'm looking forward to how that change in perception affects her decisions from now on.

Actually I think that's slightly off.
I don't think that "the real people aren't like their game versions" necessarily, I think it's more a case of "a game can only show you so much of a character and the real them have sides she couldn't see through the game's medium."

Basically, less "these are different people" and more "they all have depths and nuances to them that the game didn't convey."

I think the real "message" she learned was that nothing and no one is as simple as she thought it/they was/were just because she was familiar with the game versions, and she needs to be more open to the idea of things deviating from her expectations.

One of the more interesting parts of the chapter is how our Gal’s preexisting views of both the Prince and the Villainess were flipped. On the page before Amelia's punch: she thought the Prince was just "rough around the edges but nice" because of what she knew from the game, but it turned out she was way off, and that seemed to shock her (another example of the author being straightforward). She felt she "must've misunderstood something."

It's honestly heartbreaking seeing Serina about to blame herself for his anger and violence.

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If you really want to approach it with this logic, how does it make any sense whatsoever that Serina would reveal that she wasn't injured at all and that he doesn't need to do anything for her (she literally says this) if she was trying to deceive him for status or money? She would obviously maintain the charade if that was her goal.

Because acting like something wasn't a big deal and saying "you owe me nothing" only to then make "requests" that you "totally" don't have any pressure to accept (but remember that time you hurt me and I didn't make a big deal out of it?) is literally politics 101?
If anything, if he truly suspects she's the sort of person that would fake an injury to indebt a member of the royal family to her, that's absolutely something he could accept she'd do.

Think about the event that forms the entire basis of his character. He is someone who is ultimately middling in talent and continuously gets upstaged by his social interiors which brings constant frustration to him. My statements line up perfectly with his character. Yours does not and ignores some very crucial circumstantial evidence like the following which I will repeat again:

Just because your deduction makes theoretical sense enough to be possible doesn't make it proven.
Yes I agree that he has inferiority issues; No I don't agree that it entirely defines his character so far.
It's an issue he has, but it's not defining his every decision and I don't believe it's the drive behind his outburst towards Serina in this chapter just because it also contributed to it.

He did not once talk about Serina's well being. It's why he is shocked by her recovery. You might say that he was busy. Let's have a thought experiment. If you shot someone by accident, would you never bother to check up on their well being because you're "busy"?

...I honestly don't see how this is enough to make any kind of assumption. Why would he check in on her? If something happened, he'd be notified, and he knows she's being taken care of and has no reason to doubt the quality of the care considering her benefactor.

While I'd totally understand feeling compelled to check in on her, I don't think it's a universal thing that just everyone with a shred of decency in their body would do and consequently, I don't think it really proves or supports emotional callousness.

Oh, and also, you keep claiming that my take is "charitable" but you have yet to provide any kind of justification for why his disbelief in her magical healing would not be genuine.

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One of the more interesting parts of the chapter is how our Gal’s preexisting views of both the Prince and the Villainess were flipped. On the page before Amelia's punch: she thought the Prince was just "rough around the edges but nice" because of what she knew from the game, but it turned out she was way off, and that seemed to shock her (another example of the author being straightforward). She felt she "must've misunderstood something."

It's honestly heartbreaking seeing Serina about to blame herself for his anger and violence.

Yeah, definitely wasn't a good situation. Threw flowers in her face, immediately yelled at her, called her a wretch, gave her no chance to explain and all in public. Plus, she was fans of all these "characters," so there's the element of meeting and having expectations of your favorites only to find they're not a good person. She found out in the worst way. Even with that, I'm more concerned about the consequences of Amelia's decision. Serina can pick herself up but we'll see what they try to do after that public rejection. Maybe that punch will have some recalibrating effect.

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