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Purple Library Guy
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joined Mar 3, 2013

It's just a hunch but I don't think 5-chan is the final boss here.

Plausible . . . for instance, who killed her?

joined Feb 2, 2021

A happy ending for a ghost is to go to heaven or reincarnation of course :)
Well I do hope we get a little bit of fluff before that. I hope the line "I see you Aizawa-san" isn't said too close to the ending. That would be very very sad.

Ghost romances can have many different happy endings that aren't mostly bittersweet.

A. The ghost and human stay together until the human dies, then both move on
B. The ghost comes back to life and lives together with the human
C. The human dies and becomes a ghost and now it's a double ghost romance where they can be happy together

And there's probably some more.

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joined Jan 3, 2022

So… maybe the 5th member didn’t make the cut cuz the other 4 had stronger synergy, 5th member dies and came back as a vengeful spirit and is killing off each other the members one by one?

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Satsuaki
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joined Oct 9, 2021

Been a while but it's back, we're back, I'm back. I went back and re-uploaded the entire manga with some minor fixes, mostly for Tear's name and to smooth out foreshadowing. More importantly, I found some extra art to add to the twitter extras in each volume. Rough drafts for that volume's inner cover art Dorothy eventually settled on.

Anyway chapter 24.
Let me know if I got constellations wrong. Couldn't find a pattern to them.

Looks like Masaki is chronically cursed by Aizawa instead of catching a 1-time-deal. Aizawa's reaction to that, to Ange getting sick, and to claims of a curse once again signal she knows a lot more than she's capable of saying. Unfortunately she's not getting much chance to do anything either if this volume centers on the concert — Aizawa's still schoolbound in gay baby ghost jail.

Dorothy's been a believer in putting mostly everything important to a volume in its 1st chapter. Which makes it interesting Michi and Aizawa take up so little of it. We know from the vol4 extras that 5 will be heavy on Masaki vs Honda, DeLphi's history, and features Karasuma. Tallying up what ch24 gave us: we see a glimpse of Masaki's inner workings, Michi's need to protect Aizawa (and questioning her fixation on her), Masaki being cursed, Non getting suspicious, and DeLphi's issues coming to light.

From that I'd expect the next ~5 chapters to show what made Masaki who she is now, Michi being given a clearer answer of what Aizawa needs protection from, and DeLphi falling apart publicly and privately. I do have ch25 and should have it done in a week, but all I'll say is these are both fairly short chapters. Either Dorothy has some 40 page drafts coming up or the average chapter length is getting shorter, hopefully to reduce delays between volumes.
Whatever we're back.

  • Super Virgo were referenced back in ch21 as DeLphi's senpai group from the same agency. With the 3rd mention they legally have to be plot relevant.
  • Masaki and Non are on 5ch, Japan's biggest anonymous message board.
  • You can see the fuzzy lines in Masaki's eyes on page 8 when she wakes up. I swear I'm not crazy.

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Dark_Tzitzimine
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joined Dec 18, 2013

Is back! YAAAAAAAAY!

I'm so grateful for the recap because boy, the story keeps getting more and more complex, and I get lost easily, so those recaps are a lifesaver.

Since this chapter is pretty much justs etup there is not much for me to say but I find very interesting that Masaki was a classic weird kid just a couple of years ago, was Honda that big of an influence on her or there is something more at work?

Also, I love Dorothy's chibi doddles, they are filled with so much personality.

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Ykn1
joined Dec 20, 2018

Just happily looking through the cute extras when suddenly...

Building up...

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Golden Brown
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joined Jul 10, 2016

This is one of those manga where the uploader is almost as big a champ as the person who made the damn thing.

Because they've earned it.

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joined May 24, 2025

Aaa it's back!!! Thank you!

Dunno what the original said, but I love the way this panel was translated ahaha

inactivehunter
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joined Sep 26, 2022

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Looks like Masaki is chronically cursed by Aizawa instead of catching a 1-time-deal. Aizawa's reaction to that, to Ange getting sick, and to claims of a curse once again signal she knows a lot more than she's capable of saying. Unfortunately she's not getting much chance to do anything either if this volume centers on the concert — Aizawa's still schoolbound in gay baby ghost jail.

At the risk of conspiracy theory brain: if Masaki has the Sight (cf. her ghost pupils) and is aware of Aizawa, is it possible that she's faking the effects of the curse in ch24? (Presumably for some reason connected to her instant and overpowering interest in Michi – maybe an interest in breaking up her relationship with her ghost gf.) The first time was legit, of course – Aizawa's silhouette transformation suggests some serious poltergeist/grudge energy was at work – but in the second instance, Aizawa was just guilty, curious, worried, etc. and still managed to hurt Masaki. (Whose current situation and characterization are still kind of a black box!)

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Satsuaki
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MizuAnge
I don't know who is what at this point. It's weird she attacked Non, which looks like resentment over Non being the most innocent. She keeps bringing up this promise Tear made, to keep the group going forever. It's a desperate fixation that doesn't sound like a ghost trying to kill them all. If that's Mizu, is she not entirely aware what she's doing? If that's Ange, does she need the group to continue to stave off death? Is Ange even aware what Mizu's doing? If you read the teethcam as a metaphor, it is like something's speaking from inside Ange.

With the added focus on Tear and Non - the narrative isolating them into their own little group - I get the feeling Ange isn't lasting much longer. If she doesn't die, this concert might still put her out of commission. From there, does DeLphi limp on? Do they have to? Will Tear finally open up on what really happened, or will Non have to start some serious investigating on her own? I really want to see DeLphi getting more active in the plot but it's going to take a status quo shift we might be on the cusp of.

Kurotori Sou
In Dorothy's words, "for the first time Michi's dad gets to talk like a normal human" to finally confirm Michi's mom is gone. Or maybe not.
To start, the photos make it seem like she was around for Michi in elementary school, when we know Michi was outgoing. But her dad talks like Michi's emptiness started around her mom's death. Can't help but think back to the undescribed incident in chapter 1 that scared Michi off ghosts.

Now 20 is absolutely the most important page. Michi's dad thinks "not enough" and then is seemingly confused by his own thoughts. More than that, his eyes change, growing pointed and hazy. Whatever thought "not enough" wasn't her dad. Wee see too many eye shenanigans in this manga to overlook that. Which also makes it meaningful Michi's mom has no eyes in any of the photos.

So what does "not enough" mean? Michi's mom wants a yuri harem for her daughter? Can't be that innocent. I'll double down on Mizu not being the final boss of this manga. It leaves too much negative space in the narrative when she has no direct ties to our protagonist. But Michi's mom is pure setup for the distant future. It's blind speculation fuel, but something to keep a finger on.

Karasuma
If you don't count her ch17 cameo, we haven't seen her since ch13. Where she left to investigate the source of the curse. It's reasonable to assume that's why she's here now. She is in her ghostpunching uniform. But she definitely wasn't expecting Michi. Remember Karasuma knew Michi before the memory loss, but pretended not to and called her "Kurotori-san" (in fact no one said 'Michi' that entire chapter). Here she's stunned into saying the more familiar Michi-chan. Not that Michi will notice.

I wouldn't bet on it, but this is Michi's first chance to seriously talk about Aizawa. Aizawa isn't here, Michi knows Karasuma knows, Michi knows Karasuma knows Michi knows. Barring the inevitable interruption from Masaki/Honda/miniMichi/Mizu/Karasuma, Michi might actually learn something.

Dunno what the original said, but I love the way this panel was translated ahaha

悪いインターネットばっかみてんじゃねーよ!!
To be extra literal, "Quit always looking at the bad internet!!" But literal TLs are no fun and it's still very accurate to the line and character.

At the risk of conspiracy theory brain: if Masaki has the Sight (cf. her ghost pupils) and is aware of Aizawa, is it possible that she's faking the effects of the curse in ch24? (Presumably for some reason connected to her instant and overpowering interest in Michi – maybe an interest in breaking up her relationship with her ghost gf.) The first time was legit, of course – Aizawa's silhouette transformation suggests some serious poltergeist/grudge energy was at work – but in the second instance, Aizawa was just guilty, curious, worried, etc. and still managed to hurt Masaki. (Whose current situation and characterization are still kind of a black box!)

Yeah it could be. It's not like Michi isn't ignoring Aizawa too, and Masaki has the social skills to make it less obvious. But narratively I don't think we'd see a fakeout involving Aizawa's condition worsening now. Theoretically Masaki could be trying to make Aizawa appear more dangerous, but it undermines our understanding of Aizawa when her mechanics are up in the air. Still, I appreciate letting your imagination run wild. It's the kind of manga that demands it.

Dark_Tzitzimine
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joined Dec 18, 2013

Man, I thought this was just a cutesy comedy yuri manga but the past two chapters have been filled with happening that are making my head spin. I can only wait and see where Dorothy's wild ride is going to take us next.

I'm glad to see Karasuma again tho

Couple_under_the_stars
joined Nov 7, 2022

Michi's mom ?! It feels like someone just walking in the middle of a game of Cluedo. Because Ange's reflection being a long, black-haired woman on page 15 followed by the manifestation on page 20 suggest she might be the one haunting DeLphi.

It does tie to the speculation that 5-chan couldn't be the culprit because then, who would have killed her. And Michi's past link to DeLphi through Honami might link them all together, but... so far it feels like everything is connected, but those connections are made of very thin wires.

On another note, definitely rooting for NonTear now.

last edited at Jun 4, 2025 4:14AM

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joined May 28, 2020

I want to say it's been a confusing read, but maybe I just need to reread it all from scratch.

Ayayayahuasca
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joined Oct 19, 2020

Seems like paranormal people dress like Constantine out of instinct

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joined Feb 27, 2022

yay the papa appeared

Ykn1
joined Dec 20, 2018

Piling up tiny revelations into building an in various ways disturbing whole...

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joined May 24, 2025

悪いインターネットばっかみてんじゃねーよ!!
To be extra literal, "Quit always looking at the bad internet!!" But literal TLs are no fun and it's still very accurate to the line and character.

Ah thank you for the clarification! You're right, I suppose especially for such different languages, most of the time literal translations cannot convey the specific feeling of the expression so you have to find an equivalent that captures the same vibe, and even then it might not hit exactly the same way. Translation is definitely an art in and of itself!

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joined Sep 21, 2019

Needy Streamer Overload mentioned! fwiw the game is entirely gender-neutral so if you want yuri it's yuri, it's good super toxic food

Also who is Ange even giving fanservice to in pg2? The ghosts??? (I'm pretty sure it's just Dorothy being goofy but i couldn't help but notice lmao)

Dumshork
joined Mar 19, 2022

Also who is Ange even giving fanservice to in pg2? The ghosts??? (I'm pretty sure it's just Dorothy being goofy but i couldn't help but notice lmao)

I believe they were doing a livestream with the group.

Marlywalkwitmehiroki
joined Apr 4, 2020

Yay, Karasuma!
I'm not sure if Sou will factor into this or if she's being set up for later... Normally I'd wonder if Michi has seen her, but perhaps those memories were lost. What are the chances of the ghost Michi encountered at that summer festival actually turning out to be that of her own mother? Is there anything that could contradict that?

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joined Aug 21, 2017

Ok this is pure speculation and probably wrong but whatever.

If I understand correctly, in this manga there are two "levers" you can pull to interact with the spiritual, your "power level" and your memories.

Power level example: Horimitsu doing what Kurasawa said and giving up her blood to draw the star symbol.

Memories example: This is way more complex and pretty much all revolves around Michi.

I think Aizawa is a ghost whose form is "pinned" by the gap in Michi's experiences. Michi gave up her experiences of Aizawa AND some of her power to keep Aizawa on earth. This is why Michi can touch Aizawa later in the manga; it's not that Aizawa is becoming more powerful, it's that Michi is becoming more powerful. Not sure if it's just because of the passage of time, or if it's because she's remembering more about Aizawa. But recall that touching spirits is something the spiritually powerful Horimitsu can do, but not the less spiritually power other students.

Emphasis on "the gap", it's a gap in not just in memory but in how Aizawa fit in her life. Aizawa's independent existence relies on the gap's existence; Aizawa IS the gap. Presume that Aizawa used to be her best friend. When Michi asserts they were never friends, Aizawa starts to cease to exist. When she asserts Kasumi is her best friend, Aizawa becomes Kasumi. What Michi asserts (verbally) with regards to her friendships becomes Aizawa's reality.

Time for some wacky stuff.

Aizawa is Michi's gap in knowing Aizawa. Who is mini-Michi? Probably, it's ghost formed from her elementary school experience that made her afraid of ghosts. What's interesting is that mini-Michi has tangible form. Horimitsu can see her.

Ok, who is the ghost haunting Ange? They have long dark hair.

Theory 1. ch. 25, Sou (Michi's mom) has long dark hair. Let's presume the ghost of Michi's mom, hanging around because of her spiritual power, is haunting Ange. Based off Horimitsu's grandma, maybe spiritual power is hereditary? And if Michi is spiritually powerful, maybe her mom was as well?

Why would she be haunting Ange? She wants to kill Aizawa, right? The best motivation I can think of is wanting her daughter to recover the gaps in her memory, hence the "not enough"; Michi should have more friends, but the gaps in her memory are stopping her. But not super convinced. Brings me to the next theory.

Theory 2. Michi ("Mi"zu to "Mi"chi) was the 5th member. ch. 17.5, Michi's idol form would have long hair.

Narrative is like this: Michi's gloominess stemmed from mini-Michi, to protect mini-Michi's gap; people generally won't ask you about your childhood if they aren't your friends.

She meets Aizawa. They become friends. With Michi's athleticism, loud voice, and good looks, she beats the odds and becomes an idol. But "something" happens. This "something" becomes a ghost fueled by a gap in Michi's memory so large it extends beyond her into pretty much everybody, like a star symbol drawn across the whole nation, or maybe broadcast (through TV?) across it.

This ghost is associated with negative emotions. It wants kill Aizawa, then Ange, etc. to take revenge for something they did. Hence the "not enough"; it wants Michi to be more popular, as a superstar idol should. Again not super convinced.

Theory 3. The 5th member is literally a new character. I think this makes the most sense. But the above two theories are wackier, some nice fuel for speculation.

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