Wincest.

Wincest.

Poor Yamagishi, she never stood a chance.

Salamamanders are nice, I guess

I find it sad to see that so many people grew tired of or were disappointed by this series. I have to say, I only picked it up by the end of volume 8, so I didn't really have to wait for chapters for the greater part of the story. However, I didn't feel like it was dragging on or anything. Honestly my favourite were probably volumes 6 and 7 that dealt with Konatsu's loneliness. I don't know, maybe I just like exaggerated drama...? xD

Anyway, I thought this was a very well planned out series and I don't think it got sidetracked or lost its original goal. To me it seemed that the author had thought of how it was going to go from the beginning, and it was only the readers' expectations that made it seem otherwise. And I was actually happy that it ended this way and not with an explicit romantic relationship because that wasn't the point of the story. It was a story of loneliness and creating strong bonds with others (not only those with friends but with family members as well) and that's what's made it unique.

I agree with you and I wish people would go back and read it in one go now to see that it does flow well, but it was indeed a grind to follow monthly, especially since there'd also be break months two or three times a year, and that understandably wore some people off expectations or not.

I held an opinion that it wasn't as bad to follow the middle part when I read it in one go, but even then, when I look back on it, that kind of 'drama' in that kind of pacing is still unforgivable. The month-long waits made the series a lot more excruciating to follow, but the story itself was already becoming shoddy regardless.

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What's gayer, being a lesbian, or whatever the fuck Honami and Koyuki have going on?

What's gayer, being a lesbian, or whatever the fuck Honami and Koyuki have going on?

Futaribeya.

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I am so glad this is finally over. It should have been 16 chapters long tops. Ideally 8. So much stalling and recapping that I was really sure it would be axed.

But an author gotta eat, right?

I like the end: I found you. Whether love or friendship or something in between, this was the point of the story: finding a sister-soul. I expect many doujins about their relationship. Everything is open. Like life.

Idk man but that "in this wide ocean, i found you" it knock me up..

I gotta say that's a damn perfect ending even without a kiss
It tied everything back together again in a way that felt as natural as an intake of breath
Kinda feels like an end of an era to me

I do think the series suffered in the middle part and the separation between the two felt forced but these last couple of chapters and this one especially have reminded me why I was so taken to this series from the beginning
I know I'm the type of guy that wants things to be concrete and romantic feelings to be pointedly expressed and acted upon but I'm satisfied with this.

The subtext tag can burn in hell this is gay as fuck

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By the way, considering the author seemed a bit demoralized a while ago, I'm glad she decided to keep working as a mangaka and that she has a new series in the works. I loved Nettaigyo overall and I think she has great potential for the future.

The subtext tag can burn in hell this is gay as fuck

(jokingly) Not Yuri

What's gayer, being a lesbian, or whatever the fuck Honami and Koyuki have going on?

FWHH - Friends with Hand-Holding ?

They're bosom buddies.

They're bosom buddies.

https://dynasty-scans.com/chapters/notes_from_the_garden_of_lilies_ch07#27

"Do you like salamanders?" is the lesbian version of "The moon is beautiful, isn't it?" and you cant convince me otherwise.

No doubt about it. And the last page only confirms it.

Actually, the title of the last chapter is a title drop.

And kogareru (焦がれる) is pretty ambiguous too. It also means "to be in love with" as well as yearning for.

But yeah. Subtext.

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What a way to end. I’m gonna have to reread this all together before I can get my thoughts sorted about it tbh.

What a way to end. I’m gonna have to reread this all together before I can get my thoughts sorted about it tbh.

I think I'll do just that, for now I can only say that I'm extremely grateful with this manga and hachimitsu scans, the previous chapter was already all I wanted and I was happy so this ending is like a bonus for me, and nice touch about Kaede, after all, her character development highlight was her sister, so that's giving a closure too.

Would be great if we get bonus stuff with the volume release but for now good bye Tropical fish! And thank you.

i don´t really get why people are so mad honestly, if you choose to keep reading after the official tweet and got disappointed that´s on you, it´s funny how people decide to read stuff that they know they will not enjoy
And even if we agree that the manga is in fact yuribait (wich i don´t) the author already said that you´re free to interpret their relationship the way you want, is not like they sudenly put male characters and force a relationship, is not that big of a deal

I think thought experiment might help. It usually is of great assistance to change the point of view a little, and see if your interpretation of things changes at all.

Let's do the simple smell test: Swap Koyuki's sex to male. Make "him" a handsome, but lonely marine science nerd. Konatsu stays at is.

Exactly same things happen, from start to finish. Same framing, same events, etc.

Do you think you read a romance or a friendship story?

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Let's do the simple smell test: Swap Koyuki's sex to male. Make "him" a handsome, but lonely marine science nerd. Konatsu stays at is.

Exactly same things happen, from start to finish. Same framing, same events, etc.

Don't be silly. They don't let boys into aquariums.

Let's do the simple smell test: Swap Koyuki's sex to male. Make "him" a handsome, but lonely marine science nerd. Konatsu stays at is.

Exactly same things happen, from start to finish. Same framing, same events, etc.

Don't be silly. They don't let boys into aquariums.

Don't be homophobic now, GA. :)

I have to give it to the author. Even title is perfect mixture of subtext and vagueness. I did some digging to make sure and from what I can tell the word 焦がれる can mean both "yearning for something strongly" or "falling in love strongly". It expresses a incredibly strong desire of longing for something and which meaning applies depends on context. You could yearn for your old home, or new job, but also could fall head over heels in love with somebody or something. In case of Nettaigyo wa Yuki ni Kogareru both fits since it could be just as easily translated as "A Tropical Fish Yearns for Snow " as well as "A Tropical Fish Falls in Love with Snow ". So which meaning makes more sense is left up for interpretation.

i don´t really get why people are so mad honestly, if you choose to keep reading after the official tweet and got disappointed that´s on you, it´s funny how people decide to read stuff that they know they will not enjoy
And even if we agree that the manga is in fact yuribait (wich i don´t) the author already said that you´re free to interpret their relationship the way you want, is not like they sudenly put male characters and force a relationship, is not that big of a deal

I think thought experiment might help. It usually is of great assistance to change the point of view a little, and see if your interpretation of things changes at all.

Let's do the simple smell test: Swap Koyuki's sex to male. Make "him" a handsome, but lonely marine science nerd. Konatsu stays at is.

Exactly same things happen, from start to finish. Same framing, same events, etc.

Do you think you read a romance or a friendship story?

What a silly idea. If nothing else is changed, it's still ambiguous. As if there don't exist plenty of stories like that.

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All I know is that, this could've been a classic.