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I still dont know if its yuri
read the reviews for volume two on Amazon jp to know!
So, I used Google Translate so I don’t know if it’s accurate at all and I also don’t even know if I’m interpreting it correctly, but itseems like she does end up divorcing and goes with her in the end? Is that accurate? I don’t know if I read that right.
This is also the final volume, so it won't take long to see how things go.
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Am I the only who isn't big on Harutaka?
Hikaru has the most adorable manic spiraling.
That was a cute chapter
oh this was such a cute chapter i almost feel bad for the guy knowing whats almost definitely coming
I still dont know if its yuri
read the reviews for volume two on Amazon jp to know!
So, I used Google Translate so I don’t know if it’s accurate at all and I also don’t even know if I’m interpreting it correctly, but itseems like she does end up divorcing and goes with her in the end? Is that accurate? I don’t know if I read that right.
This is also the final volume, so it won't take long to see how things go.
wait what its only two volumes ?? did yayoi get fucking axed again or does she just really like writing compelling stories and ending them way too soon
This manga is so bad, this is fun to read. I didn't want to read it at first but once I've accepted it will just be a shit show for fun, it became entertaining.
It feels like Oosawa doesn't even know the kind of story she's writing. The main character is pathetic (being obsessed and I love with a person you barely knew, years later, to the point of thinking of losing your job just to great her at the station... That's pathetic), Hana is completely incoherent, and I don't mean messy. Just incoherent. She is trying to get a grip on a girl she barely know, she is being an asshole overall and none of her thoughts are being exposed to the reader. Nothing is made to empathize with both girls in this story.
And jn the end, the only likable character is the husband, which is the only relatable character, even for people used to mostly or even exclusively read yuri.
If she wanted to write a toxic drama, she should have taken inspiration from Flowerchild or other mangaka well verse in that type. Here, nothing makes sense, to the point it's funny. Which is a bit disturbing somehow for a seasoned mangaka..
But well, after each chapter, the comment section is fun to read, so I'll still around, there is only a few chapters left anyway.
I was rooting for the husband, and then I saw their age gap and thought it was a little sus. I'm not sure if I like the lead who seems on the pathetic side and the other girl is too toxic to like. Honestly, at this point - the Shiba Inu is my favorite character. But I'm partial to the breed because I have a 4 year old female Shiba named, Yuna!
If she wanted to write a toxic drama, she should have taken inspiration from Flowerchild or other mangaka well verse in that type. Here, nothing makes sense, to the point it's funny. Which is a bit disturbing somehow for a seasoned mangaka..
Interesting that you think so because I think everything makes complete sense and Ohsawa Yayoi knows exactly the type of story that she wants to write here. I think so far the writing is very tight and every chapter is significant to the plot. She's pacing out the mystery of the mess that is Hana extremely well and I don't think she's trying to make any character here "rootable" or "likeable".
I like most of Ohsawa Yayoi's stuff and if the quality stays the same for the rest of the series, this will be up there in the top of rankings of her works for me.
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don’t get it, why is she mad at herself for slapping her, while the other lady over here stole a kiss from her and bit her lip until it bled?
https://dynasty-scans.com/chapters/after_the_rain_the_sun_the_flower_shines_ch06#8
don’t get it, why is she mad at herself for slapping her, while the other lady over here stole a kiss from her and bit her lip until it bled?
https://dynasty-scans.com/chapters/after_the_rain_the_sun_the_flower_shines_ch06#8
Self-esteem issues, especially in comparison to someone she has idolized since she was very small. It's an illustration of their relative worth in Hikaru's eyes, her own pain is meaningless where Hana's is unforgivable.
don’t get it, why is she mad at herself for slapping her
Because, it really makes you feel bad for striking someone.
You may have been in the right for doing so, or justified in some way; but it still kinda feels dirty or unnerving.
This goes way back to my school years, but I once struck someone who was bullying me (absolutely nothing evil like in Anime and Manga - but being mean, getting too touchy and much in my personal space; stupid but like school stuff).
No one even remotely blamed or admonish me afterwards, the bully clique even started acting cool on the surface with me, no more trouble even joked about that incident with me. But even now in my 30s I remember it and am like "yikes, not very cool man, wish that went down different" and it is a core memory.
If she wanted to write a toxic drama, she should have taken inspiration from Flowerchild or other mangaka well verse in that type. Here, nothing makes sense, to the point it's funny. Which is a bit disturbing somehow for a seasoned mangaka..
Interesting that you think so because I think everything makes complete sense and Ohsawa Yayoi knows exactly the type of story that she wants to write here. I think so far the writing is very tight and every chapter is significant to the plot. She's pacing out the mystery of the mess that is Hana extremely well and I don't think she's trying to make any character here "rootable" or "likeable".
Well, I'm honestly glad you find some real value in this story and that it makes sense to you. But we are in complete disagreement regarding the main points of the story.
Regarding Hikaru, I can relate to having lingering feelings for someone from the past. This is a natural feeling, and nothing wrong with that. But you need some substance to back that up and make it believable for the reader. In this case, we have an MC, that barely interacted with a girl in the past, that kept strong feelings about her, and that is ready to throw everything away for her. While on the other hand, that girl doesn't even remember her, that's to tell the extend of their interactions in the past. It just doesn't make any sense, this is pushing too far the lingering feelings trope imo.
Hana on the other hand is coming back to her hometown after a divorce. We don't know anything about her, and she is there to keep the mystery, I get it. But at the same time, she acts completely irrationally. How in the world would joke about throwing a wedding ring of someone you don't know just for fun? Or ask for that new person's husband phone number? Not show up to a date for no reason, then kiss/bite the same girl that she barely knows? This is also too much for me to make the character believable. I feel like she is just a device plot to keep the story going.
It you can make sense of those characters, well, you can try to light me up. But we are already past the half point of the story, and we have yet to see Hana's point of view, or seing more about their past that would explain Hikaru's obsession with her.
About the husband, saying that he wasn't written to ben likeable or relatable while tons of people are rooting for the het couple on a yuri forum, that's definitely not very honest...
If she wanted to write a toxic drama, she should have taken inspiration from Flowerchild or other mangaka well verse in that type. Here, nothing makes sense, to the point it's funny. Which is a bit disturbing somehow for a seasoned mangaka..
Interesting that you think so because I think everything makes complete sense and Ohsawa Yayoi knows exactly the type of story that she wants to write here. I think so far the writing is very tight and every chapter is significant to the plot. She's pacing out the mystery of the mess that is Hana extremely well and I don't think she's trying to make any character here "rootable" or "likeable".
This is also too much for me to make the character believable. I feel like she is just a device plot to keep the story going.
It you can make sense of those characters, well, you can try to light me up. But we are already past the half point of the story, and we have yet to see Hana's point of view, or seing more about their past that would explain Hikaru's obsession with her.
About the husband, saying that he wasn't written to ben likeable or relatable while tons of people are rooting for the het couple on a yuri forum, that's definitely not very honest...
I think that is where we differ in how we see and enjoy the story. You're trying to relate or see realism in these characters, but I'm just seeing these characters as concepts (or as you said, plot devices). Hana and Hikaru are extremely interesting to me because they are on extreme opposite ends in character personalities and it's interesting to see where they will lead the story. They're fun because they're not realistic and relatable.
What's engaging about these characters is the "why". Like why is Hikaru so obsessed with this girl who is 5 years older than her since she was 5 years old? Why is Hana obviously stringing along Hikaru who she knows has been obsessed with her since childhood?
I don't think the author is necessarily making the husband "likeable". He's just the concept of the "loyal, faithful partner" to counter the "dangerous, exciting homewrecker" and those traits are what a lot of people find "likeable". Frankly I find him pretty boring and it's obvious to everyone (even himself) that he comes 2nd in Hikaru's heart. The story is just to see what concept Hikaru is gonna choose in the end.
If she wanted to write a toxic drama, she should have taken inspiration from Flowerchild or other mangaka well verse in that type. Here, nothing makes sense, to the point it's funny. Which is a bit disturbing somehow for a seasoned mangaka..
Interesting that you think so because I think everything makes complete sense and Ohsawa Yayoi knows exactly the type of story that she wants to write here. I think so far the writing is very tight and every chapter is significant to the plot. She's pacing out the mystery of the mess that is Hana extremely well and I don't think she's trying to make any character here "rootable" or "likeable".
This is also too much for me to make the character believable. I feel like she is just a device plot to keep the story going.
It you can make sense of those characters, well, you can try to light me up. But we are already past the half point of the story, and we have yet to see Hana's point of view, or seing more about their past that would explain Hikaru's obsession with her.
About the husband, saying that he wasn't written to ben likeable or relatable while tons of people are rooting for the het couple on a yuri forum, that's definitely not very honest...
I think that is where we differ in how we see and enjoy the story. You're trying to relate or see realism in these characters, but I'm just seeing these characters as concepts (or as you said, plot devices). Hana and Hikaru are extremely interesting to me because they are on extreme opposite ends in character personalities and it's interesting to see where they will lead the story. They're fun because they're not realistic and relatable.
What's engaging about these characters is the "why". Like why is Hikaru so obsessed with this girl who is 5 years older than her since she was 5 years old? Why is Hana obviously stringing along Hikaru who she knows has been obsessed with her since childhood?
I don't think the author is necessarily making the husband "likeable". He's just the concept of the "loyal, faithful partner" to counter the "dangerous, exciting homewrecker" and those traits are what a lot of people find "likeable". Frankly I find him pretty boring and it's obvious to everyone (even himself) that he comes 2nd in Hikaru's heart. The story is just to see what concept Hikaru is gonna choose in the end.
Fair enough, I understand more your point of view, thank you for explaining it. We are not excepting the same thing from it then.
Regarding Hikaru, I can relate to having lingering feelings for someone from the past. This is a natural feeling, and nothing wrong with that. But you need some substance to back that up and make it believable for the reader.
except it is believable. it's on the realm of things you can't even waterboard out of people, because it's so embarassing. but it does happen. that's what's so appealing for me in this story, it's about the pathetic secrets people have.
honestly, if you find it not believable, good for you! but some of us out here are pathetic.
I came hear to cheer on the husband, but apparently it's finished. Worst timeline; villain wins and hero loses. Drama as a genre is really interesting, because it relies a lot on invoking negative emotions in the reader to make them keep reading. But what you should NEVER do, never never never, except if it's a cliffhanger, is end it on a negative note. People leave your story feeling awful and depressed, and it's not their fault. I love reading yuri, have done it for a little more than a year, and there are some depressing ones, but there is a line. The guy is only ever portrayed in a positive light, and as of the the time of writing (6th chapter), the only vaguely bad character trait he has is cowardice. The "rival" is portrayed as manipulative, cruel, and seems to enjoy being both. And who wins (apparently)? The villain. I get invested in your story, your worldbuild, and you reward me by punching me in the gut and beating me while I'm down. Jeez man...
On a somewhat unrelated note, I thought it was stupid that people rant on these comment boards. I see how dumb I was now lmao.
It's such a trip to watch someone on this forum get upset on behalf of a husband character because his wife will supposedly leave him or cheat on him in a later chapter. I wonder if it's a first. Ohsawa Yayoi might be breaking new ground in ways she doesn't even know.
Also, I have to admit that kiss is pretty hot, especially how it punctuated the end of the first volume. I'm not changing my predictions but credit where it's due...
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I came hear to cheer on the husband, but apparently it's finished. Worst timeline; villain wins and hero loses. Drama as a genre is really interesting, because it relies a lot on invoking negative emotions in the reader to make them keep reading. But what you should NEVER do, never never never, except if it's a cliffhanger, is end it on a negative note. People leave your story feeling awful and depressed, and it's not their fault. I love reading yuri, have done it for a little more than a year, and there are some depressing ones, but there is a line. The guy is only ever portrayed in a positive light, and as of the the time of writing (6th chapter), the only vaguely bad character trait he has is cowardice. The "rival" is portrayed as manipulative, cruel, and seems to enjoy being both. And who wins (apparently)? The villain. I get invested in your story, your worldbuild, and you reward me by punching me in the gut and beating me while I'm down. Jeez man...
On a somewhat unrelated note, I thought it was stupid that people rant on these comment boards. I see how dumb I was now lmao.
I mean, if she's a lesbian and only now realizes it there's no point to keep the relationship. If anything, divorce would be the kind move.
Mmmh I wonder what Hana has in store next. Surely her destructive forces aren't done yet.
It's such a trip to watch someone on this forum get upset on behalf of a husband character because his wife will supposedly leave him or cheat on him in a later chapter. I wonder if it's a first. Ohsawa Yayoi might be breaking new ground in ways she doesn't even know.
Also, I have to admit that kiss is pretty hot, especially how it punctuated the end of the first volume. I'm not changing my predictions but credit where it's due...
Your comments about the tagging of this series were good, especially your discussion of how this series framed itself. I don't think the publications know how to tag this one either.
[Not really spoilers but my opinion of the series]
Its largely why I think this series fails a bit. It's not fully satisfying to either audience type, so I understand some of the negative Japanese comments I saw. If you're here for yuri I don't think it develops that well, and if you're here for the couple featured on the cover of the first volume, you're likely not happy either. A better, though not exact, version of this kind of story is "Even Though We're Adults." It has similar events and dynamics but it's narratively very clear who it's made for/should be marketed to. I feel like "Even Though We're Adults," handles things better than this series and even the Pink Candy Kiss series, honestly (though I like Pink Candy Kiss).
I guess we can discuss more once it's done here.
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just read the volume extras
and here I thought the age gap tag was referring to the gay couple. but no apparently it meant the married couple lmao
Yeah I definitely think the theme here is something like paying it forward. Harutaka was there for Hikaru when she needed to heal and since Hikaru's pretty much healed now she can be there for Hana.
Harutaka is an older man as a symbol of stability and safety. This is... not how it works in real life, but one needs those things to ever have a chance at healing.
If you can't stand this kind of pretentious hoity toity story you might not be into that type of yuri. It's kinda like yaoi vs tanbi, except tanbi didn't start with freakin' Flowers in the Attic
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Hana was an incredibly interesting character to me because we didn't know anything about her, her actions (ring) were very direct and that helped the "I'm playing with you because it's fun" dynamic, but this chapter just kill that for me I guess. Because it turned all her actions into inability to communicate instead of them being intentional to play with Hikaru's loyalty to her husband. Wondering why Hikaru slapped her instead of being happy that her game/manipulation is effective kills her vibes because You'd think what she did to Hikaru was intentional to play with her emotions (not meeting up, left her on read, then answering, tell her she met with her husband and then kiss her) to get a reaction out of her, but for her to be shocked by the slap and wonder why Hikaru would do that (especially because its framed in “Idk why she did this to me :c“ way) it boring imo, and strange for a character who is obviously for everyone since the beginning a intentional “homewrecker”
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