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joined Jan 2, 2022

I don't think most people understand the manga classification in Japan. It's not the same as it is in the west.

Japan will mostly classify manga type based on its demographic and/or based on the publishing magazine. Yuri is not a demographic, and in that case, the manga was not published in a yuri magazine, therefore, it's not classified as yuri. It doesn't mean that it's not yuri (Western meaning). Actually, it would be classified as yuri in the west, as the purpose of this manga is to depict woman /woman relationship, even though it doesn't look like it right away.

The cover of the first volume indicate that, even though it's subtle. A woman stands in between the couple. She has a red umbrella, the color of fate destiny in Japan. This is definitely some foreshadowing.

Not the typical yuri manga, definitely not my jam. But yuri nevertheless.

Online a lot of manga have tags and some websites include tags like yuri. So it's not as simple as just demographics. That said, it's certainly possible for a yuri tag to not be included.

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joined Oct 20, 2017

I don't think most people understand the manga classification in Japan. It's not the same as it is in the west.

Japan will mostly classify manga type based on its demographic and/or based on the publishing magazine. Yuri is not a demographic, and in that case, the manga was not published in a yuri magazine, therefore, it's not classified as yuri. It doesn't mean that it's not yuri (Western meaning). Actually, it would be classified as yuri in the west, as the purpose of this manga is to depict woman /woman relationship, even though it doesn't look like it right away.

The cover of the first volume indicate that, even though it's subtle. A woman stands in between the couple. She has a red umbrella, the color of fate destiny in Japan. This is definitely some foreshadowing.

Not the typical yuri manga, definitely not my jam. But yuri nevertheless.

My argument was not "this is not tagged on official sites as yuri, therefore it's not yuri". It was that "this manga is showing signs in the text that it's not lesbian fiction (healthy or toxic), AND it's not tagged on official sites as yuri, so I will manage my expectations". I argued this in the context of all the initial whining about "cheating", and then later all the shocked "woah I can't believe I'm rooting for the husband" reactions.

I agree that yuri is in the eye of the beholder, but "yuri manga" (or "yuri light novel", "yuri game") tends to imply at least some relationship development and catharsis, even if it ends in tragedy or a toxic mess. Let's forget about whether the protagonist will stay with her husband or physically cheat on him. These two women have very little of anything going on. Their relationship is superficial and not getting deeper, they're not getting to know each other either spiritually or physically. And the husband character got at this point twice as much page presence as the "homewrecker", with chapter 3 being entirely from his POV. All of this is more than just atypical for a yuri manga.

I didn't want to go into this much detail but since you insist... It's not true that yuri is a completely ephemeral term in JP publishing. By tagging on official sites, I meant the literal 百合 (yuri) tag that is commonly used on online storefronts (e.g. Bookwalker) and web manga platforms (e.g. Kadokomi). For publishers that provide official tags, it's standard to apply it on yuri works, regardless of the nominal gender demographic (shounen, seinen, shoujo, josei). And it's not applied with a particularly narrow definition. For example, here's a broad selection of yuri series that receive this designation despite being serialized outside of a "yuri magazine":

The absence of this tag is not conclusive evidence of anything, and false negatives are inevitable when a publisher declines to provide any official tags at all, yuri or otherwise (e.g. The Moon On A Rainy Night and Run Away With Me Girl, both under Kodansha). But it is a useful data point to make predictions, in combination with the text.

This series is published by Kadokawa, and they seem to have a good track record with tags. They operate the web manga platform KadoKomi, which offers a dedicated label where you can find virtually all yuri series they publish. So it feels more meaningful that the usual stores with a tag system don't list 百合 (yuri) for this series. Bookwalker, for example, tags this series only as 恋愛 (romance).

Butt
joined Sep 26, 2020

It's also worth keeping in mind that as more Japanese comic publishing moves to web-first (or web-only) publishing, sites like KadoKomi and even Jump+ don't really seem to be as beholden to demographic-based classification (although it's still relatively uncommon to intermingle seinen / shonen with shojosei series). And for ongoing series, especially those with subtext, they may or may not get the 百合 tag.

All I know is that this is an Ohsawa Yayoi series with her up to the tricks she got up to in the back half of 2DK G-Pen without the fluff and I'm here for it.

The Moon On A Rainy Night

Kuzushiro seems pretty allergic to having any of her major works tagged as yuri, for whatever reason. Living With My Brother's Wife stayed squarely in the subtext zone (while at the same time having an explicitly lesbian side character), and A Workplace Where You Can't Help But Smile is basically Fuzuroi no Renri if you filtered all the really gay stuff out and just left the subtext.

Run Away With Me Girl

Battan seems to be comfortable mostly being published in josei magazines and just happening to include a lot of queer themes in her work, in the same way that Tomoko Yamashita mostly publishes in josei magazines while also publishing a decent amount of BL (and when she does write queer female characters, they tend to be more grounded depictions of bisexuality or lesbianism than is typical in most yuri).

I think in general it's probably easier on your heart to just read a work and see where it goes and not worry about whether it's going to have a yuri ending by reading the tags. But I'm sorta rooting for Pinky Candy Kiss to go a poly route, so I suppose that renders my judgment suspect.

joined Jun 17, 2025

"he puts me first" but you can't put him first, can you?
you've got a drug you just can't quit

......why the hell is Oosawa-sensei writing a straight romance? like it's not as tho she has a track record of depicting straight relationships as problematic as some mangaka do, but her whole catalog is wholly GL, so I'm just confused what this is doing randomly in her serializations

Nyarin
joined Mar 20, 2012

Not yuri, huh?

joined Sep 18, 2025

Wow she's insane this is awesome

Bambinessa
joined Aug 2, 2023

I hope this will not turn into some stupid drama over "I saw your husband with Hana"-rumours. I'm vaguely optimistic given how mature the series has been so far, but take it as an insult if I call this coincidence quite shoujo.

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joined May 29, 2019

So far I want the married couple to divorce and stay good friends/family. And for the flighty woman to fuck off. Let's see if that changes once her motives are revealed.

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joined Dec 9, 2023

Wow y'all went at it in the forums huh
Anyway every chapter has me at the edge of my seat I love this series sm it brings me much joy :D hope there are others who share the same sentiment bc sometimes you just wanna enjoy something <3

joined May 10, 2021

Not too sure what to think about all of this...
But if this woman could fuck right off, that'd be nice.
Also I guess the married couple is kinda doomed now, but they could go their own ways in a friendly way, which would be nice.
Anyways, let's see how it goes I guess.
Thanks for the chapter!

gender_intrigue
joined May 26, 2025

i love mess! make the husband think you're fucking the wife, make the wife think you're fucking the husband. keep em guessing!

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joined Mar 31, 2023

This woman is bad news. I love her!

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joined Jul 10, 2016

Living With My Brother's Wife stayed squarely in the subtext zone

Did it ever get out? That shit drove me insane.

It's also where I learned the term "Boston marriage".

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joined Sep 1, 2017

Pleased to meet you
Hope you guess my name
But what's puzzlin' you
Is the nature of my game

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joined Apr 25, 2020

holy shit that was hot and crazy

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joined Jul 6, 2020

Agent of chaos arrives

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joined Oct 14, 2014

......why the hell is Oosawa-sensei writing a straight romance? like it's not as tho she has a track record of depicting straight relationships as problematic as some mangaka do, but her whole catalog is wholly GL, so I'm just confused what this is doing randomly in her serializations

god forbid a woman challenge herself

Hotarusquibbly
joined Feb 12, 2025

I love adultery

Charon-sml
joined Feb 14, 2016

Oh, she's messy messy >:]

Kuroko-railgun
joined Jul 21, 2024

I genuinely don’t know what the hell is happening, but for some reason this is really interesting.

Icon_tinyrain
joined Jan 30, 2017

I genuinely don’t know what the hell is happening, but for some reason this is really interesting.

Camera Girl always had a big crush on Red Flag, but settled for Nice Guy.

Red Flag is aware of it, and she's back in town to cause mayhem.

Nice Guy knows he's second place at best, but is still trying not to get cucked.

Nyarin
joined Mar 20, 2012

I genuinely don’t know what the hell is happening, but for some reason this is really interesting.

Camera Girl always had a big crush on Red Flag, but settled for Nice Guy.

Red Flag is aware of it, and she's back in town to cause mayhem.

Nice Guy knows he's second place at best, but is still trying not to get cucked.

This is the best summary you could ever come up with, lol.

Kuroko-railgun
joined Jul 21, 2024

I genuinely don’t know what the hell is happening, but for some reason this is really interesting.

Camera Girl always had a big crush on Red Flag, but settled for Nice Guy.

Red Flag is aware of it, and she's back in town to cause mayhem.

Nice Guy knows he's second place at best, but is still trying not to get cucked.

This is the best summary you could ever come up with, lol.

Agreed! Thank you very much for the summary @Liliaĵa (ㅅ´ ˘ `)

Ava%20baby
joined May 5, 2013

I really don't like that woman

Palucina1
joined May 26, 2020

Why do I hear "Toxic" playing in the background?

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