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I like the original ending better where it wasn't implied she might be partially draining her for money.

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joined Nov 3, 2023

I read this hentai to jerk off to Yuri smuts, but I wasn't expecting it to make me cry.

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joined Dec 17, 2021

I like how Sachie is drawn in this version more, but overall I prefer the style of the first version. also, that extra page where Sachie and Rika are shown taking flowers to Rika's grave seems to only exist in the original version and that for me adds to the "we will not die/we'll keep living today" message both versions end in

I like the original ending better where it wasn't implied she might be partially draining her for money.

If you refer to how Rika tells Sachie they have to see each other the following day, in both versions it's a callback to Rika's request to Sachie to book her again.

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joined Mar 24, 2021

me reading this: oh. oh shit. OH SHIT.

guess i'll go read the earlier version?

joined Oct 4, 2023

me reading this: oh. oh shit. OH SHIT.

guess i'll go read the earlier version?

The main thing that changed is that my translation is just a bit different and the art style is different. I think the text itself is pretty much the same.

joined Oct 4, 2023

me reading this: oh. oh shit. OH SHIT.

guess i'll go read the earlier version?

The main thing that changed is that my translation is just a bit different and the art style is different. I think the text itself is pretty much the same.

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joined Mar 24, 2021

i went and read the other one and actually didn't expect that so many panels remained the same structurally (but it makes sense). the first comment had me thinking the narratives diverged.

Someroughclipping
joined Aug 28, 2019

That was a more wholesome ending than I thought it'd be, considering the tags.

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joined Oct 14, 2014

My brainworms want this to have a goofy spinoff that becomes some wacky revenge thriller LMAO

Capturar
joined Jun 27, 2018

That was a more wholesome ending than I thought it'd be, considering the tags.

Yep. Almost skipped this one because of the tags. I'm glad I didn't. This was cute.

joined May 3, 2014

I still find it really fucked up and disgusting that the only way she will feel closer with Rika is if she makes porn with the men that fucked her Crush……..yaikes!

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Internet_lied
joined Jul 15, 2016

While the art is much cleaner and more detailed in this version than the original, I feel like the latter does not hit home as hard as the latter. At least for me, the emotional catharsis was much rawer and felt much more viscerally in the original version. The original focused primarily on the pain Sachie and, to a lesser degree, Rika were both feeling, and the more laconic lines (though this may be due to a different translation team) and sparse backgrounds of the original conveyed the tunnel vision of being in pain so much more authentically than the book version.

joined May 9, 2017

I still find it really fucked up and disgusting that the only way she will feel closer with Rika is if she makes porn with the men that fucked her Crush……..yaikes!

It is, but at the same time, she still have a crush over somebody she hasn't met in ten years... I mean, her crush is probably not the same person anymore. I do understand lingering feelings, but being desperate to that point is not healthy. I guess, it's for her the beginning of her healing process.

joined Jan 12, 2018

I still find it really fucked up and disgusting that the only way she will feel closer with Rika is if she makes porn with the men that fucked her Crush……..yaikes!

Actually this story can be a lot darker and depressing if you think what was left behind the scenes. For one example that late Rika girl can be in love with Sachie too, but afraid to be rejected and thinks that it's something "wrong" with her to like other girls. That's why she cut all communication with Sachie and start to do porn with men. And if Sachie found Rika in porn maybe Rika found one or two videos with Sachie too and finally give up on everything seeing as her dearest one sleeping with men.

For never was a story of more woe.
Than this of Juliet and her Romeo.

joined Dec 13, 2020

i went and read the other one and actually didn't expect that so many panels remained the same structurally (but it makes sense). the first comment had me thinking the narratives diverged.

same. i thought there were significant changes but eh, they were just the same.

this story was a roller coaster for me tho. went from first thinking "oof, is this tragic bc of the suicide tag" to "wait, i've read works with that tag before and it was just attempts and mc gets to have the will to live again today, maybe this too isn't tragic," to freaking feeling like someone just poured a bucket of cold water on me when i got to page 18. and then cried for a few minutes TT_TT.
that page also makes this version better for me than the original bc reading it for the the first time, my heart dropped when i first saw that page as i thought that that was the end bc of the way it was framed, with a thick black border like those significant one page (flashback) reveal scenes. since the original didn't have the same framing (?, idk if my terms are right), it lacked that punch to it. at least for me (or maybe it's bc i was spoiled already but i feel like it's the former rather than the latter)

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Chimera
joined Aug 2, 2023

So I went back to the original and I don't know ... somehow this one feels more sanitized? I prefered the "grittier" (for lack of a better word) art style to this. Overall I somehow got me the feeling of watching the hollywood version of a biography versus actually reading the biography.

@meadows: I noticed that the detail of other Rike getting murdered is a lot less subtle here (partly due to the text fade); is this due to a quirk of word order in the translation or reflective of intetional changes?

joined Oct 4, 2023

So I went back to the original and I don't know ... somehow this one feels more sanitized? I prefered the "grittier" (for lack of a better word) art style to this. Overall I somehow got me the feeling of watching the hollywood version of a biography versus actually reading the biography.

@meadows: I noticed that the detail of other Rike getting murdered is a lot less subtle here (partly due to the text fade); is this due to a quirk of word order in the translation or reflective of intetional changes?

It’s a translation quirk, I would say.

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joined May 8, 2017

I can...fix her? ?

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joined Apr 22, 2017

This doujin broke me the first time and it judt did it again TvT it's nice seeing how much the author have improve in both art skill and story telling skill, it was quite hard to follow the first version tbh

welease.wodger
joined Oct 2, 2021

Sia said it best
iiiiii want to hang
from a chandelier
Chandelier

Internet_lied
joined Jul 15, 2016

So I went back to the original and I don't know ... somehow this one feels more sanitized? I prefered the "grittier" (for lack of a better word) art style to this. Overall I somehow got me the feeling of watching the hollywood version of a biography versus actually reading the biography.

I'd say the original or more raw, not grittier. The remake's art is more detailed, with much finer lines and backgrounds, but IMO this distracts from the characters and defuses the pain they are dealing with, which is why it feels more sanitized, as you have said.

joined May 3, 2014

I still find it really fucked up and disgusting that the only way she will feel closer with Rika is if she makes porn with the men that fucked her Crush……..yaikes!

It is, but at the same time, she still have a crush over somebody she hasn't met in ten years... I mean, her crush is probably not the same person anymore. I do understand lingering feelings, but being desperate to that point is not healthy. I guess, it's for her the beginning of her healing process.

that is true >.>

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joined Aug 18, 2015

Hard to believe this is by the same person who made this.

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