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Kiarabg
joined Sep 6, 2018

oh yeah this is right up my alley.

Palucina1
joined May 26, 2020

I like how they're both kinda screwups. How could you not realize that girls wanna F@ck?

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joined Apr 23, 2021

OMG I love this

Eterna%20rinebow%20small
joined Oct 20, 2017

So Obsidian's super secret agenda at this particular university is just... Food and shelter?

ColdGoldLazarus
Cglishmini
joined Apr 12, 2018

This continues to be interesting and very fun.

007b
joined Jun 12, 2014

I like how they're both kinda screwups. How could you not realize that girls wanna F@ck?

She was aware, she just said she hadn't considered feeding on it because Succubi have always targeted men in the past and there was no real need to think about other options

Untitled
joined May 25, 2023

this is sooo good, every series Ju Ji She is involved in has been great so far :,-)

last edited at May 29, 2023 7:31AM

D40f4d2~01-min
joined Jul 22, 2023

May the gods bless Zephyr for picking this up again <3

Khancrop
joined Feb 18, 2013

Wow, this is pretty fun, but also exorcist girl has the worst case of Anime I've seen in a while.

Like, she's suspicious that she doesn't know what's going on because she was told she doesn't know what's going on and her boss also reminded her that she's admitted that to others in the past! And yet rather than Just Fucking Talking (the number one method of getting other people to give you information) she jumps straight to violence at every opportunity

I get that she feels betrayed and enraged, but I think the "I don't believe Obsidian has amnesia" bit took far too long to resolve narratively.

Helmet
joined Jun 9, 2021

It's an interesting take. I've got some mixed feelings, but I feel like the author is probably intending to address my concerns eventually.
I generally dislike the kinds of stories where one of the characters gets into an abusive relationship, and we're supposed to accept it because their partner has a sad backstory or something. But here, the mysterious past is front and center, and the author doesn't frame Xiao Yu's behavior as justified from the start. (Rather than being some kind of absolute authority, she gets chewed out by her superiors.) I'm glad the author highlights that Obsidian doesn't entirely dislike Xiao Yu's attention, since that makes the tsundere act easier to stomach.
Feels weird to say that a supernatural story like this feels more natural, but at least they haven't reached a point where I feel like "they should separate and never interact again rather than reconcile."

Cs4_cover
joined Jul 13, 2015

This type of app is scared, how you ladies here don´t used that

Internet_lied
joined Jul 15, 2016

Huh, it seems like Obsidian and Yu have met at least twice before: when Yu was a kid, Obsidian threw her off a cliff, then met her again when Yu was, maybe, 10 and killed Father William. Her dialogue here implies that either both times, or just in the latter situation, Obsidian had gotten quite emotionally vulnerable with Yu, possibly using her to get to William, her true mark. Yu's over-the-top violence may be thus viewed as (though not excused by) the anger of a deeply hurt serial ex.

My guess is that Obsidian is an assassin for the (criminal) underworld, albeit a reluctant one judging by Yu's second flashback of William's death. Her memories appear to be wiped clean after every hit, allowing her to blend back into the society as a lowly succubus. I do not think that Yu was her actual mark when she threw her off a cliff, otherwise she would make sure she was dead. Rather, I speculate that both times, Obsidian was actually protecting Yu, but "disposing" of a witness in a way that she was sure to survive. Of course, we'd have to wait and see if any of the above resembles the author's plot.

last edited at Dec 11, 2023 5:04AM

Purple Library Guy
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joined Mar 3, 2013

I'm kind of in the other direction from some people here--what I find hard to believe is actually the interludes of nonviolence and the sexual tension, not the attacks. Well, that and the heavy-handed stalking--if you're not allowed to kill her, and you've agreed to that provisionally, then whatever, let her get some food--ideally, find some way to do actual surveillance so you can catch her if she tries to grab someone's soul or do anything else illegal, rather than just sort of getting in her way without a purpose.

But for me the problem here is, the comic has this premise: Obsidian is a murderess, probably a multiple murderess. Specifically, she has tried to kill the female lead and has killed the person in the world who mattered the most to the female lead. It appears to have been premeditated and done with enthusiasm and pleasure. Since then, heroine seems to have spent her whole life training to be badass enough to take Obsidian down when she meets her again. This is "My name is Inigo Montoya" territory, not teen sex comedy hijinks territory. It doesn't even really matter if she can't remember doing it; if she isn't a completely different person with a completely different personality, she's basically an amoral killer and probably needs to be put down before she starts up again. (Well, with the mind control powers it will probably turn out she was mind controlled or possessed at the time--but until this theory is floated in the comic it shouldn't figure into the heroine's motivations)

That means,
IF
you take the premise seriously, the only question should be does the female lead use her to track down her superiors before doing her in, or just kill her now and investigate further without that bonus. The question should NOT be, do they fuck.

So that's my problem here: The comic has a serious and somewhat tragic premise, but it does not take it seriously. Rather, half the time it blows it off for quick lulz. Most of the time when the heroine attacks Obsidian, for amazingly good reason, it isn't even resolved, they just cut away and it's vaguely assumed it came to nothing. And it isn't even gallows humour, which I can appreciate. Rather, I find the comedy undercuts the serious premise, and the serious premise makes the comedy seem stupid.

It's a pity because I can see two different decent comics here, which appear to be spoiling each other.

last edited at Dec 11, 2023 12:33PM

Sena
joined Jun 27, 2017

The comic has a serious and somewhat tragic premise, but it does not take it seriously.

It's something I seem be observing with Chinese and Korean stories oddly frequently. Like, "My Food is Very Cute" has this vampire lead and they tell her she doesn't need to be scared of witches anymore because the witches genocided all the vampires and thus that's done, it's in the past (even though the vampire just woke up so didn't have any sense of time progression) ...

... or a het manhwa, where the female lead was the incarnation of a previous queen who again, had all her people genocided by the "empire", was betrayed by the king, abused, whatever, now it's reincarnation time and it's all just some vague tragic backstory but with no relevance on how she acts now or how she feels about the male lead...

?!?!?!?!?!?

I don't get it. Is it cultural? Is it a question of writing skill? Is it a distorted observation because these moments stick out so much? Eh, who knows, but it certainly feels weird and I'd like to hear what the authors themselves say about it xD

Couple_under_the_stars
joined Nov 7, 2022

I did not expect a random rape scene to happen pretty much in the background / two panels aside of this story, without any real tie to the plot... Huh. Eww...

joined Jan 7, 2020

Still waiting for translations to catch up to the raw… I think it’s up to 82 now?

Internet_lied
joined Jul 15, 2016

I don't get it. Is it cultural? Is it a question of writing skill? Is it a distorted observation because these moments stick out so much? Eh, who knows, but it certainly feels weird and I'd like to hear what the authors themselves say about it xD

I'd like to know the author's answer to this as well. To me, such blasé attitudes towards trauma, both personal and intergenerational, imply a certain cultural blind spot (or even a taboo?) around it and the ways it shapes the victims' personalities and identities.

I did not expect a random rape scene to happen pretty much in the background / two panels aside of this story, without any real tie to the plot... Huh. Eww...

Agreed, that was quite jarring.

RadiosAreObsolete
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joined Mar 6, 2021

I get the feeling that there is more to their relationship than we've seen so far. The protagonist claims that she wants revenge and has been preparing to kill her for years, but she also seems to be weirdly attached to Obsidian, for reasons as of yet unknown to us readers. She says "you're always like that", which would imply that they know each other, have spent time together, more than just those two scenes we've seen. I think she cares for Obsidian, but was betrayed by her, which is why her actions don't always match her words and why her attacks never lead to anything.

I do get what you mean though. I definitely expected this to be more serious when it started. And I do think it would've probably benefited from it.

Altair Uploader
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joined Nov 30, 2016

I did not expect a random rape scene to happen pretty much in the background / two panels aside of this story, without any real tie to the plot... Huh. Eww...

Yeah, and it's set up to make it seem like succubi casually whipping people up into a rape frenzy is a regular occurrence and is also not treated as very serious. It kinda feels like Ascendance of the Bookworm where the main story is usually light and low stakes but the world just around it is absolutely brutal

Purple Library Guy
Kare%20kano%20joker
joined Mar 3, 2013

I did not expect a random rape scene to happen pretty much in the background / two panels aside of this story, without any real tie to the plot... Huh. Eww...

Yeah, and it's set up to make it seem like succubi casually whipping people up into a rape frenzy is a regular occurrence and is also not treated as very serious. It kinda feels like Ascendance of the Bookworm where the main story is usually light and low stakes but the world just around it is absolutely brutal

That is not a comparison that would have occurred to me. Maybe because Ascendance of a Bookworm is, um, good. And the thing is, when the brutality of that world gets put in front of the MC, it BOTHERS her; the contrasts aren't ignored, they're used.

Altair Uploader
Reisen%20ds
joined Nov 30, 2016

I did not expect a random rape scene to happen pretty much in the background / two panels aside of this story, without any real tie to the plot... Huh. Eww...

Yeah, and it's set up to make it seem like succubi casually whipping people up into a rape frenzy is a regular occurrence and is also not treated as very serious. It kinda feels like Ascendance of the Bookworm where the main story is usually light and low stakes but the world just around it is absolutely brutal

That is not a comparison that would have occurred to me. Maybe because Ascendance of a Bookworm is, um, good. And the thing is, when the brutality of that world gets put in front of the MC, it BOTHERS her; the contrasts aren't ignored, they're used.

Yeah that's largely true, the disturbing aspects of the Bookworm world are treated as such by the MC (and portrayed as such, which is kind of missing here). The comparison I was going for was more about the tonal whiplash between the project manager wish fulfillment content on the one hand and the mustache twirling villains that want to confine the MC and breed her for magic children, the public executions, etc. on the other. I do need to catch up on Bookworm, but it's always a stressful read.

Not many other similarities here of course, this one still kinda feels like it's trying to come into its own? I'm not totally sure what it's trying to be, might take a number of chapters or require an all at once read

last edited at Aug 5, 2024 2:38PM

Sdm%20ladies%20cheering
joined Apr 10, 2023

This latest chapter was certainly interesting. And bold for a Bilibili comic lol

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