I am confused. Is it very mochi to have an incest plotline, or is it very unmochi to not follow through with it?

both

Rin and President fans arguing over who's gonna win. Meanwhile me, a Ruruka backer, dying on the floor because the one chapter with them on a date went to someone else.

That was such a good chapter that I'm worried it'll be subverted in the future. This series really can be sweet when it wants to be.

last edited at Sep 3, 2023 2:14AM

that was a surprisingly sweet and heartfelt moment in the midst of madness

I was squeeing at the phone call. Who knew that asking the girl you like if you can use them as fap material after your crazy sister drugged you can be so cute?

Yeah rereading it a few times, I was surprised by how real it felt. I cannot quantify it, but it had that right pitch of awkwardness, that combination of nothing to say and everything that young people have said to each other before, that levelled like a conversation I might have had as a youth.

Alright, I'm sold. I was hoping for the harem ending, but I am officially in the Hanei camp. That was too cute

Guys I think she might be into yuri

Alright, I'm sold. I was hoping for the harem ending, but I am officially in the Hanei camp. That was too cute

Welcome

It's genetic!

Edit: Also MaL betraying expectations about the incest by being correct - it's not that weird but you really shouldn't act like someone is entitled to someone's affection just because they're family. I despise how so much otaku media will just shove in the creepy possessive brocon/siscon and pretend it's an option or not dead and tired as a shitty self aware joke by now

last edited at Sep 3, 2023 8:24PM

We may need a Scumbag tag for our "クズ" (kuzu) ladies.

Guys I think she might be into yuri

She explicitly said she wasn't!

Every girl she makes out with thinks that, it's annoying.

last edited at Sep 3, 2023 11:21PM

Itsumi rejecting Arare's offer to take a bath together is hilarious, because Itsumi either got fucked by Hanei in the bath before or after the rejecting Arare.

Who knew that asking the girl you like if you can use them as fap material can be so cute?

Nitpick: it's "schlick" material! :)

Oh god that phone call with Rin is everything…
Somehow I missed their previous chapter together and just caught it going back through things, and it’s like peak romance?? Somehow, some of the best yuri I’ve ever read?? It’s just so… sweet and honest and intimate. The emotional history together they were working through was really touching and kind of painful. It’s a peak bully/bullied relationship dynamic, and the way that Itsumi was so honest about being unsure in her feelings was so genuine. I love the way they navigated through that. And the fact that she has a thing about being wanted bc of her emotional neglect, and a thing about being bullied during sex that most likely tracks back to their history together, and the trauma that she experienced… to be able to re-frame that with Rin making her feel wanted, Rin as the traumatizer rewiring the bullying, physically, into something loving and sexual and explicitly consensual…

It’s genuinely beautiful.

I’ve been noticing more and more that this story delivers some really strong, resonant emotional beats. I think part of that comes from the characteristic rawness of Mochi’s work, but I also can’t help but think of a video essay I watched once called Art, Furries, God, about how silliness, baseness, can serve as a sort of self-disarming on the part of the author, removing any sense of pretentiousness or the idea that a work should be received distantly as Art, and thereby allow people to drop their guard and engage with it more closely, and feel its message more strongly, more honestly.

There’s a certain quality in this work and in Watamote, which it reminds me of, where the comedic framing makes the emotional moments more emotional, more real, more impactful. The gay hindbrain food trash setup disarms the story so that when it delivers an emotional moment and comes back to being gay, it feels so sweet and earnest.

There’s something to be said as well about the way this started as a gimmick gag manga and has expanded from there: it evokes the shape of a genre, a shell and a scaffolding and a set of expectations, and then slowly chips away until it shatters it and repurposes the pieces into something new. It created this sense of something new, something unconstrained editorially where anything can happen if it works for the story, for the fiction, and that it won’t run up against the glass wall of genre.

It feels like leaving your comfort zone, like stepping into something new—eager and earnest and daunted by possibility. It feels vulnerable—it feels, in fact, much like you do when you’re just figuring out your way in your first relationship, and you don’t know what’s going to happen.

I think this story is incredible. And I think it has the potential to be even more. Much like the characters, I’m both nervous and excited to see what happens next.

Oh god that phone call with Rin is everything…
Somehow I missed their previous chapter together and just caught it going back through things, and it’s like peak romance?? Somehow, some of the best yuri I’ve ever read?? It’s just so… sweet and honest and intimate. The emotional history together they were working through was really touching and kind of painful. It’s a peak bully/bullied relationship dynamic, and the way that Itsumi was so honest about being unsure in her feelings was so genuine. I love the way they navigated through that. And the fact that she has a thing about being wanted bc of her emotional neglect, and a thing about being bullied during sex that most likely tracks back to their history together, and the trauma that she experienced… to be able to re-frame that with Rin making her feel wanted, Rin as the traumatizer rewiring the bullying, physically, into something loving and sexual and explicitly consensual…

It’s genuinely beautiful.

I’ve been noticing more and more that this story delivers some really strong, resonant emotional beats. I think part of that comes from the characteristic rawness of Mochi’s work, but I also can’t help but think of a video essay I watched once called Art, Furries, God, about how silliness, baseness, can serve as a sort of self-disarming on the part of the author, removing any sense of pretentiousness or the idea that a work should be received distantly as Art, and thereby allow people to drop their guard and engage with it more closely, and feel its message more strongly, more honestly.

There’s a certain quality in this work and in Watamote, which it reminds me of, where the comedic framing makes the emotional moments more emotional, more real, more impactful. The gay hindbrain food trash setup disarms the story so that when it delivers an emotional moment and comes back to being gay, it feels so sweet and earnest.

There’s something to be said as well about the way this started as a gimmick gag manga and has expanded from there: it evokes the shape of a genre, a shell and a scaffolding and a set of expectations, and then slowly chips away until it shatters it and repurposes the pieces into something new. It created this sense of something new, something unconstrained editorially where anything can happen if it works for the story, for the fiction, and that it won’t run up against the glass wall of genre.

It feels like leaving your comfort zone, like stepping into something new—eager and earnest and daunted by possibility. It feels vulnerable—it feels, in fact, much like you do when you’re just figuring out your way in your first relationship, and you don’t know what’s going to happen.

I think this story is incredible. And I think it has the potential to be even more. Much like the characters, I’m both nervous and excited to see what happens next.

This is such a good take and I fullheartedly agree!

I was already in love with this manga, but the reference to my favorite book and movie really got me. Thank you, creepy little sister. You're as crazy as Jack, keep it up lol

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sick so far

I know it literally doesn't matter, but I'm kinda curious if this drug

A. Just makes you temporarily horny towards your normal sexual orientation

B. Makes you temporarily horny towards the same sex

C. Makes you temporarily horny towards the same sex and also permanently gay.

C would be kinda fucked up, like you just changed the course of someone's life on a whim without consent. It would be unMochi to write that, I think. The drugged male teacher chapter kinda implied B, but it would also be consistent with events if that teacher was in fact actually gay the entire time.

I don't know why you'd ever consider B and C to be on the table without being given a very good reason. Gay stories have lots of gay people in them, there's no reason to assume all the gay ass behavior we've seen hasn't been the truths for those gay ass characters.

It's also kinda, if a tree falls in a gay forest kinda thing. If all the characters are canonically gay, and this is the kind of setting where that very well might be true, then it's likely irrelevant exactly how the drug works because everybody is gay anyways.

Arare is an absolute menace and the epitome of narcissism, she’s a fantastic antagonist and has an interesting contrast to Toudou, both have ungodly rizz but Arare being so heavily dependent on it to such an unhealthy level while Toudou barely even notices her own charms is so funny.

I know it literally doesn't matter, but I'm kinda curious if this drug

A. Just makes you temporarily horny towards your normal sexual orientation

B. Makes you temporarily horny towards the same sex

C. Makes you temporarily horny towards the same sex and also permanently gay.

C would be kinda fucked up, like you just changed the course of someone's life on a whim without consent. It would be unMochi to write that, I think. The drugged male teacher chapter kinda implied B, but it would also be consistent with events if that teacher was in fact actually gay the entire time.

I think the implication is that it just makes you super horny and open to sexual offers without being too picky about things like orientation and gender

I know it literally doesn't matter, but I'm kinda curious if this drug

A. Just makes you temporarily horny towards your normal sexual orientation

B. Makes you temporarily horny towards the same sex

C. Makes you temporarily horny towards the same sex and also permanently gay.

C would be kinda fucked up, like you just changed the course of someone's life on a whim without consent. It would be unMochi to write that, I think. The drugged male teacher chapter kinda implied B, but it would also be consistent with events if that teacher was in fact actually gay the entire time.

I think the implication is that it just makes you super horny and open to sexual offers without being too picky about things like orientation and gender

As a counterpoint, the male teacher was immediately horny for the other male teacher, but not for any of his female students or coworkers. We're probably not having any straight reappearing characters, so it's an academic question.

Doesn't the drug just make you horny for the first person you see?

Also

Linterdiction's post

You're not Temp!

Rin and President fans arguing over who's gonna win. Meanwhile me, a Ruruka backer, dying on the floor because the one chapter with them on a date went to someone else.

Also hold up, Ruruka, the flat pervert best friend? And I don't mean flat in the physical sense. She's like, the least interesting character in my opinion, why her?

Also the potion definitely doesn't do the first person you see, because in this chapter MC drank the potion but thought of Rinmei instead of her sister in front of her.

Heeeere's imouto!

Oh god that phone call with Rin is everything…
Somehow I missed their previous chapter together and just caught it going back through things, and it’s like peak romance?? Somehow, some of the best yuri I’ve ever read?? It’s just so… sweet and honest and intimate. The emotional history together they were working through was really touching and kind of painful. It’s a peak bully/bullied relationship dynamic, and the way that Itsumi was so honest about being unsure in her feelings was so genuine. I love the way they navigated through that. And the fact that she has a thing about being wanted bc of her emotional neglect, and a thing about being bullied during sex that most likely tracks back to their history together, and the trauma that she experienced… to be able to re-frame that with Rin making her feel wanted, Rin as the traumatizer rewiring the bullying, physically, into something loving and sexual and explicitly consensual…

It’s genuinely beautiful.

I’ve been noticing more and more that this story delivers some really strong, resonant emotional beats. I think part of that comes from the characteristic rawness of Mochi’s work, but I also can’t help but think of a video essay I watched once called Art, Furries, God, about how silliness, baseness, can serve as a sort of self-disarming on the part of the author, removing any sense of pretentiousness or the idea that a work should be received distantly as Art, and thereby allow people to drop their guard and engage with it more closely, and feel its message more strongly, more honestly.

There’s a certain quality in this work and in Watamote, which it reminds me of, where the comedic framing makes the emotional moments more emotional, more real, more impactful. The gay hindbrain food trash setup disarms the story so that when it delivers an emotional moment and comes back to being gay, it feels so sweet and earnest.

There’s something to be said as well about the way this started as a gimmick gag manga and has expanded from there: it evokes the shape of a genre, a shell and a scaffolding and a set of expectations, and then slowly chips away until it shatters it and repurposes the pieces into something new. It created this sense of something new, something unconstrained editorially where anything can happen if it works for the story, for the fiction, and that it won’t run up against the glass wall of genre.

It feels like leaving your comfort zone, like stepping into something new—eager and earnest and daunted by possibility. It feels vulnerable—it feels, in fact, much like you do when you’re just figuring out your way in your first relationship, and you don’t know what’s going to happen.

I think this story is incredible. And I think it has the potential to be even more. Much like the characters, I’m both nervous and excited to see what happens next.

You nailed why I enjoy comedies with serious elements so much. I partially blame my Creative Writing degree for causing me to over-analyze and be overly critical of so many works -- but with something like this manga, you know immediately that it's not ASKING to be taken as seriously, and that somehow just makes it so much easier to disregard my inner critic... and of course, once I'm hooked, that gives room for writers to worm their way into my emotions.