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So this chapter they kiss and they both cry after and feel bad about it, which would seem like a bad sign for their relationship, but I think they’re both doing really well with each other and just don’t realize it. Emma feels bad because Suzu is in love with Yuki and is just using her as a substitute, which is basically what’s going on. What this chapter shows though, I think, is that Suzu is already beginning to see Emma as her own romantic interest. While kissing she thinks of Emma “Emma you’ve always… You’ve always accepted me for who I am.” And then after “Emma is really kind. She always accepts me, regardless of how ugly I become. She always comforts me.” Which is extremely promising, because she fell in love with Yuki for those exact reasons. Yuki accepted her when others rejected her, was kind, and comforted her when she was hurting. Now Emma is filling that role.

I think part of what’s digging at Suzu is that she’s noticed that Emma isn’t as sexually eager as she is. In an earlier chapter she found herself surprised (perhaps disappointed) that her agreeing to a relationship with Emma didn’t mean they’d be kissing a lot. She teases Emma for being embarrassed at “spicy scenes”. In this chapter, Emma initiates the kiss but Suzu is the one who gets really into it (as if, maybe, she had been holding back). I think the fact that Suzu is older plays into this. Of course, Suzu hasn’t realized that the one Emma loves is her yet (I think. Emma isn’t hiding it very well. Maybe she’s subconsciously picking up on it and feels bad about playing with her feelings.)

Personally, I don’t expect this to go in a toxic or tragic direction. I think they’ll have their ups and downs and their dramas, but in the end they will be happy together.

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This is actually so stupid lol

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"Why are they talking about this so openly?"

IDK, maybe they've already clocked your gayitude.

Re: Toxicity. I see about a 0% chance this story goes down that route, but if it did I'd be down for it 100%.

Kanelel
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Tenho que admitir que eu também achava que dava pra engravidar só beijando

Really? I thought that was just a manga thing.

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Something similar happened to my grandpa. His first wife turned out to be a lesbian, so they quietly ended it and didn't tell anyone why.

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"Bro my wife is about to divorce me. Tell the clients we're closed."

Kanelel
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They were mating.

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Her "first"? How?

Kanelel
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Anyone got the source for the image at the end of chapter 1? I tried googling the artist signature but nothing came up.

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When is the next update on this? It's been a while.

Nobody knows, whenever it comes out we'll get it scanlated don't worry. Think the author prioritizes their other series.

How does this work anyway? Where is this getting published? Most manga I read, if i see "it's serialized" that means "making this is the author's full time job, they have weekly or monthly deadlines, and it won't stop coming out unless it gets axed, finishes, or the author becomes incapacitated/dead." But then I read yuri manga and it's like "it's serialized, that means the author will write 7 chapters before getting bored of it and moving on to the next thing like a fanfiction writer."

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I call it the curse of Action+Yuri series. :-( Almost all manga I've read that combined those genres got axed before their time...

It feels like there's little overlap between the audiences of the two genres, so a series that tries both ends up unpopular in either...

Don't get me wrong, I do love this series a lot, but I also think it had that ongoing problem that there was no big plot going on in the action part. In romance, we had this 'I will make her fall in love with me' which is a cute trope, but it was not the main focus. And at the action part, there was never a big threat or plot coming together like I was all along waiting for some big enemy to appear, and I thought that this whole monster rising was because some evil man was trying to attack the country and start a war, or ruin the Black Knight, etc. And I know it's basic, but I was so ready for the enemy to realize Clair is important to Frost, so they get her and other typical stuff that would have made this more interesting. Because even though I love this manga a lot, I always missed the big threat (or if they actually had one coming later, maybe they should have introduced it in volume 2). I think this story needed a bigger threat than the dragon, and maybe more drama? Who knows. I just understand why people got bored with where the story went. And even if it hadn't gone axed, I can't really see where the story could have led, which is maybe a problem. But I know it was the writer's first manga, and I'm glad they at least can have an ending to the story.

Action yuri tends to have a lot of the same problems that I notice in action isekai series. I think a lot of it comes down to the fact that action is hard to do well in a manga. In animation or live action you can just have a well choreographed fight scene where the spectacle of the fight carries the scene, but if you draw that same choreography as a series of unmoving manga panels, it loses most of its energy and looks way worse. You need extra elements to keep it interesting most of the time. Maybe if you're a once in a generation talent you can draw something like Berserk where most of the action takes the form of a short series of incredibly detailed and violent impact panels and let the art quality carry it, but for most artists that isn't a real option.

Most of the yuri action (and bad isekai) I've read loves to throw the protagonist against mindless animal monsters that have no personality or complex thought. Which is incredibly boring. Human enemies with big personalities are way more interesting. With human enemies you can have banter, you can have a clash of ideologies or personalities, you can have more personal stakes, you can resolve the fight in a wider variety of ways, and you can have the enemy use intelligent or interesting tactics.

Another thing you can do (that this manga doesn't) is to do Jojo's Bizarre Adventure style puzzle fights. The protagonist has a weird superpower, and they have to figure out how the enemy's weird superpower works in order to find a clever solution. This adds an additional layer of mystery and tension to the fight and you can write a whole manga around this kind of thing (see Jojo's, HunterxHunter, Kaiji, honestly half of all the shounen out there).

I wish action yuri was more of a thing, but I understand why it isn't. It requires an author who understand both how to write a compelling romance and how to write compelling action, and having even one of those skills is rare even among published manga artists.

Kanelel
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"It's unthinkable" she says, while thinking it.

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I do not like the glasses boy. Never trust a gacha game player.

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  • Minato chapter
  • Maria shows up for one panel and a couple word bubbles
  • the majority of the comments are still about Maria

Y’all insane I swear lol

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7grUgixqH8I

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Meiling innocent

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I swear there's a name for this kind of character design. The tall woman with a very moe face and giant boobs.

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Definitely burn that lol

Kanelel
Mama Mama discussion 15 Mar 00:49
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They're fucked. The kids will figure it out when they're older and their families will collapse. I saw a similar situation play out IRL. Cheating on your spouse is a good way to make your children disown you.

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Canola x Fujiyama is the endgame in my heart

This chapter feels like confirmation of that. But that would require this manga to actually have a romance sub plot which I don't think is happening.

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This chapter didn't really clarify why Yuzu thinks it's "impossible"

Is she homophobic?

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Is Bai Yan really straight
There’s a lot of mix signal here

No. Chapter 40 page 7 she compares Luxi favorably to her male romantic prospects. Then on page 1 and 2 of chapter 41 She thinks about how she pushed Luxi away by dating a guy and reiterates that she would be a better partner than the dumb men she usually manipulates.

My guess is that she was bullying Luxi in middle school by making her act as her servant (and it was the kind of bullying where you pretend to be friends and sort of are but it's still toxic), which Luxi eagerly went along with for the same reason she played along with Tong Tong's blackmail all the way back at the start of the story. Bai Yan got freaked out when she learned Luxi had feelings for her so she called her gross and started dating a guy, breaking off contact. Eventually, she realized that Luxi was more attentive and obsessed with her than anyone else and she started thinking that maybe the whole lesbian thing wasn't such a deal breaker after all.

I'm loving Bai Yan so far, she's great. Her meathead minion is fucking things up for her. Too aggressive too fast. Her best move from here would be telling him off. Reiterate that it's Luxi's choice, then give her a really sad sort of rueful look.

Kanelel
Wicked Spot discussion 10 Nov 21:57
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She is super strong and apparently doesn’t have charm that works on people. Or she’d have it easier in life than she has. She might either be half or simply the variety witches is broader than the one we know for sure seen.

I see a few possibilities:

  1. Her mom is a witch and her dad is a human so she's a half-witch with half as many powers. This would imply that full witches are born some other way (since men can't be witches). Maybe witches can have kids with each other or maybe they summon a baby out a magic ritual or they just sort of spontaneously appear or something (I would guess the first one).

  2. Her mom is a witch and her dad is a human but witch-ness is a dominant trait so she is a witch and half-witches don't exist.

  3. Both her parents were human but witch-ness is a recessive trait so both parents were surprised by her being a witch. Or she just happened to have the witch gene as a mutation. This explanation doesn't explain why we never see her mom, whereas in the other two scenarios we can assume she left because her husband found out she's a witch.

In scenario 2 or 3 we're still left with the question of why she can't do the things Sadako can. A likely explanation would be that being a witch works kind of like in Harry Potter, where it's an inherited trait but you still need to train to be able to use your powers properly. It could also be that witches are born with different powers available to them. In that case, we could say that Sadako specializes in manipulating people's brains (mind controlling, memory wiping, perception alteration, invisibility) while Hanako specializes in physical strength (telekinesis?). This wouldn't explain some of the other things Sadako has done, like flying, telekinesis, and whatever was killing the people who entered her old house (Usually in a setting where everyone gets a unique power set like that they're quite specialized and don't overlap, but it could also be that every witch just has a random selection of spells she can cast or that some powers are universal to all witches but others aren't.)

Personally, I lean towards the idea that Sadako is a full witch who just hasn't studied how to be one. Maybe learning to do magic and appreciate her powers will help her to accept herself as a witch?

Also, big thank you to the translators! I'm already extremely invested.

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When I'm fucked up I'm the real me.

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I'm excited for when the manager gets involved in the "action" as it were. I can feel that it will happen. She's very pretty, and that creepy scene with her looming over Io gave me certain vibes.

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Why is this so good? I normally ignore touhou (though I did play Scarlet Devil) but this is totally sucking me in. Legitimately one of the better yuri manga I've read.