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joined Oct 22, 2018

The next two words out of Sora's mouth better be "marry me."

I'm hopeful but I'm not gonna be holding my breath for it.

Ykn1
joined Dec 20, 2018

That was cute. ^_^

And our other couple used the chance to come out to their friends as well.

joined Mar 19, 2022

I was going to do a snarky post about how their relationship will never last because it started with blackmail, but instead I’m just reminding everyone of the irony that this planet-sized ball of cotton-candy fluff started with the Blackmail tag.

i mean yeah, sometimes i´m so engrossed in the cuteness that i forgot that their relationship in fact started with blackmail. Props to the author for making the transition as smooth as possible, their relationship really evolve and progressed to this point in a somewhat natural way
it´s nothing but amazing what the author did

I've actually been thinking about this a lot since reading 100 days, as the coercive elements in that series really made me hate it before it could even get to any fluff but this series somehow managed to never become unbearable, even though the original premise is objectively speaking quite messed up.

I think the main difference between the two is how Sora acts and how Ayaka's reactions are shown as well. I almost didn't remember, but while Sora's first request is forcing Ayaka into a kiss, her second and third request are already rather harmless (going home together, hugging Ayaka) and also indicate a certain vulnerability and character depth on her side that ultimately is what Ayaka comes to find fascinating about her too. If Sora had just continued to escalate her requests instead, she would've probably come of a lot more manipulative and unlikeable.

It also helps that Sora never committed rape.

Soralaylaff
joined Oct 16, 2013

Everything in this series lately has been really cute and wholesome but I still can't help but feel off about it. I actually prefer the beginning part since I thought it was more interesting than just pure fluff and messed up relationships are always fun, but I really don't like how everything messed up before is forgotten just cuz MC fell in love.

I really wished they addressed the blackmail thing and how Sora did have ulterior motives from the get go since she had a crush on Ayaka before they "properly" met. All those plot lines were kinda just brushed under the rug so I wished they sat down and had a proper convo about it with each other. Honesty and all that ya know. Without addressing the plot of the first half, it just romanticizes and rewards messed up behavior without acknowledging it was messed up.

Well the series is still ongoing so maybe they'll throw in a casual mention of it eventually (or they already did do that in a previous chapter and I forgot)

I also wanted to add, since there's some comparisons to the 100 days manga, I think I actually hold Lonely Girl to a stricter moral code than 100 Days. The 2nd fluffy half has all been about how to have a proper, healthy relationship, so it is actually more important for this series to have conversations about the blackmailing and ulterior motives. 100 Days I've accepted is pretty much ridiculous porn so I'm able to turn my brain off and not think too hard about it, although that series does have it's own set of issues.....

Edit: so i was reminded they already had a small talk a while back and i did forget, whoops ^^;;

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joined Mar 25, 2021

i want a spin off of yuina and wakana

joined Mar 23, 2022

it's funny that at first sora is the one who aims for a kiss and quiet an aggressive on skinship department and now how the tables have turned whereby ayaka is now the one who most of the time initiate the skinship like kissing and stuff,and the one who craves for it XD. I really like those sweet kissing gestures like kissing on the side temple, rubbing it hard on my single ass. i'll never get tired of this wholesome relationship. now sora tell her!do the did!do the did!do the did! cliffhanger at it's finest.

joined Mar 23, 2022

I was going to do a snarky post about how their relationship will never last because it started with blackmail, but instead I’m just reminding everyone of the irony that this planet-sized ball of cotton-candy fluff started with the Blackmail tag.

i mean yeah, sometimes i´m so engrossed in the cuteness that i forgot that their relationship in fact started with blackmail. Props to the author for making the transition as smooth as possible, their relationship really evolve and progressed to this point in a somewhat natural way
it´s nothing but amazing what the author did

I've actually been thinking about this a lot since reading 100 days, as the coercive elements in that series really made me hate it before it could even get to any fluff but this series somehow managed to never become unbearable, even though the original premise is objectively speaking quite messed up.

I think the main difference between the two is how Sora acts and how Ayaka's reactions are shown as well. I almost didn't remember, but while Sora's first request is forcing Ayaka into a kiss, her second and third request are already rather harmless (going home together, hugging Ayaka) and also indicate a certain vulnerability and character depth on her side that ultimately is what Ayaka comes to find fascinating about her too. If Sora had just continued to escalate her requests instead, she would've probably come of a lot more manipulative and unlikeable.

can someone give me the full title of this 100 days manga?? I can't seem to find it on the internet.=_=

joined Mar 23, 2022

I was going to do a snarky post about how their relationship will never last because it started with blackmail, but instead I’m just reminding everyone of the irony that this planet-sized ball of cotton-candy fluff started with the Blackmail tag.

i mean yeah, sometimes i´m so engrossed in the cuteness that i forgot that their relationship in fact started with blackmail. Props to the author for making the transition as smooth as possible, their relationship really evolve and progressed to this point in a somewhat natural way
it´s nothing but amazing what the author did

I've actually been thinking about this a lot since reading 100 days, as the coercive elements in that series really made me hate it before it could even get to any fluff but this series somehow managed to never become unbearable, even though the original premise is objectively speaking quite messed up.

I think the main difference between the two is how Sora acts and how Ayaka's reactions are shown as well. I almost didn't remember, but while Sora's first request is forcing Ayaka into a kiss, her second and third request are already rather harmless (going home together, hugging Ayaka) and also indicate a certain vulnerability and character depth on her side that ultimately is what Ayaka comes to find fascinating about her too. If Sora had just continued to escalate her requests instead, she would've probably come of a lot more manipulative and unlikeable.

can someone give me the full title of this 100 days manga?? I can't seem to find it on the internet.=_=

nevermind I just found it. It's arioto and I love that series as well.

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joined Jan 27, 2016

Will you.... Sleep with me????

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joined Jul 29, 2017

I really wished they addressed the blackmail thing and how Sora did have ulterior motives from the get go since she had a crush on Ayaka before they "properly" met. All those plot lines were kinda just brushed under the rug so I wished they sat down and had a proper convo about it with each other. Honesty and all that ya know. Without addressing the plot of the first half, it just romanticizes and rewards messed up behavior without acknowledging it was messed up.

Why does that even matter? They're honest now that they're in a relationship. What would be accomplished by going back and "confessing" that they once had "ulterior motives"?

What's being rewarded is not the "messed up behavior" but the fact that they're confronting and dealing with their feelings as they developed.

Fowgib%20me%20(2)
joined Nov 28, 2021

Hot and heavy interrupted once again. But the heart palpitations are real just from popping that question. "Will you... go to prom with me?"

God I love this series. I like how it was something simple and not a megadrama plot thread.

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joined Jan 11, 2022

I love this series so much. Thank you very much to schuyguy and everyone helping scanlate this series since the start.
This is the penultimate chapter, right? God, I won't know what to do with myself without having this series to look forward to every month.

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joined Sep 5, 2019

Waaaaait! I demand the next page!!! You can’t just end the chapter like that!

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joined Jun 11, 2021

We all knew it would go perfectly fine with telling their friends but, after all the build up about it part of me was hoping it wouldn't be that easy. Even just like, a chapter or so where one of them doesn't understand same-sex relationships or is upset they kept it secret for so long. It doesn't matter much I still love everything about this series, just a little spice would've been nice I think

Yes_pfp
joined Oct 30, 2021

"...marry me?" Or, something along those lines. Or maybe it's a Chapter 44 moment, who knows?

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joined Jul 22, 2017

so proud of my babies

joined Jun 21, 2021

I’m getting emotional I can’t believe there’s only one chapter left

Or that is hasn’t been picked up by anyone for an English release…..

Friendofthegrummles
joined Aug 11, 2022

SORA PLEASE SAY “MARRY ME” IN THE NEXT CHAPTER..

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joined Sep 23, 2020

The next two words out of Sora's mouth better be "marry me."

I'm hopeful but I'm not gonna be holding my breath for it.

Yeah or

"Will you 'be my wife'?"

?? Holds my breath nice and slowly

Miki_closeup
joined Mar 20, 2014

Ah, they're in Otaru. I have been standing at that exact same spot where Sora and Ayaka tell their friends what's up (for anybody who cares: it's along the famous Otaru Canal).

Man, I miss Japan. I hope to get there soon!

Snowfox
joined Jan 31, 2015

Blastaar said :

They're honest now that they're in a relationship. What would be accomplished by going back and "confessing" that they once had "ulterior motives"?

What's being rewarded is not the "messed up behavior" but the fact that they're confronting and dealing with their feelings as they developed.

I've been thinking for a while now that the Blackmail tag really only applies to the first couple volumes. Even if they're not "together" by the end of chapter 10, they've certainly moved beyond using each other dishonestly.

Soralaylaff
joined Oct 16, 2013

Blastaar said :

They're honest now that they're in a relationship. What would be accomplished by going back and "confessing" that they once had "ulterior motives"?

What's being rewarded is not the "messed up behavior" but the fact that they're confronting and dealing with their feelings as they developed.

I've been thinking for a while now that the Blackmail tag really only applies to the first couple volumes. Even if they're not "together" by the end of chapter 10, they've certainly moved beyond using each other dishonestly.

Ok see yeah I did completely forget about this scene since it was so long ago so thanks for reminding me.

I'll still respond to Blastaar's comment though even if it doesn't apply to this series anymore. I think it's healthy to have everything in the open and to be honest with each other about everything that's happened pre-relationship and after. It accomplishes trust and lets both parties know what they're getting into and what to expect from the person they are dating. Because I completely forgot Sora did already reveal she had ulterior motives, it felt off to me since I thought one side apologized and acknowledged their side of the problems, but the other didn't. So this whole time I thought one side was being unfairly rewarded.

Going back to reread that part in chapter 10, I think the reason why I forgot about this scene and why Ayaka's part stood out more in my subconsciousness was because Ayaka was really clear about how she worded her apology (plus most of the story is from her POV) versus Sora did acknowledge she wanted to be closer to Ayaka since middle school, but didn't outright say she had a crush. Then it all got overshadowed by the LETS BE FRIENDS!! ending lol.

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Tron-legacy
joined Dec 11, 2017

SORA PLEASE SAY “MARRY ME” IN THE NEXT CHAPTER..

Guys. They're teenagers.

Tongtong.exe
joined Apr 27, 2021

SORA PLEASE SAY “MARRY ME” IN THE NEXT CHAPTER..

Guys. They're teenagers.

Realistically, it's probably going to be "Please move in with after we graduate", which is great because then they can finally reach the ultimate stage of lesbianism: roommates

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joined Jul 29, 2017

I'll still respond to Blastaar's comment though even if it doesn't apply to this series anymore. I think it's healthy to have everything in the open and to be honest with each other about everything that's happened pre-relationship and after. It accomplishes trust and lets both parties know what they're getting into and what to expect from the person they are dating. Because I completely forgot Sora did already reveal she had ulterior motives, it felt off to me since I thought one side apologized and acknowledged their side of the problems, but the other didn't. So this whole time I thought one side was being unfairly rewarded.

I still think this is much ado about nothing, both in this series and in others. This shibboleth of relationships being tainted by “ulterior motives” seems to be based on a highly abstract notion of “healthiness”—so what exactly counts as an “ulterior” motive? People enter into relationships (not just romantic, but also friendships, acquaintances, etc.) for all sorts of motives, and those motives habitually change as the people get to know each other.

One of the commonest tropes in yuri manga is that two people initially get together for reasons that change substantially as their relationship develops. Sure, if Ayaka had continued to be with Sora only because she was being blackmailed, that would be a problem. But that’s not at all what happens here, and while that apology may make you feel better about the story’s “healthiness,” I don’t see how would it affect their ongoing relationship if the apology had never happened at all.

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