I reread Yuunagi Marbled and wanted to go back and reread some other stuff by author and got into this and started to remember a few chapters in about how shitty of a character Liz was. Once a cheater always a cheater it kinda makes me sad that Maki might never even find out she did it as well. And if she does Maki is an idiot and I have a feeling she's just gonna brush it to the side like nothing happened and be fine with it. When she saw the out of context hug from the rando from work I really hope it crushed every bit of her heart and I would be okay if the series just ends right there knowing Liz is a piece of garbage that can just go back to her shitty exGF and continue to be manipulated until the shitty senpai throws her away once again.

Sorry for the rant I forgot how much this series pissed me off before it went away or what not haha.

I reread Yuunagi Marbled and wanted to go back and reread some other stuff by author

Just correcting but Momono Moto isn't the author for Liberty, she is just the artist.

I reread Yuunagi Marbled and wanted to go back and reread some other stuff by author

Just correcting but Momono Moto isn't the author for Liberty, she is just the artist.

ah that's more what I mean I love Moto's art is what made me want to reread some of the other stuff my apologies.

When is the next chapter coming out

When is the next chapter coming out

Today, I don't know when I'll be able to release it.

Already saw ch21. Feels like it will end at ch25. Hopefully liz learned from her mistakes and will never see that woman again. Still kinda dislike liz for deceiving maki by "cheating" behind her back. Hopefully they can become girlfriends in the end who knows

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So an undetermined amount of time has passed since Liz saw (and of course misunderstood) the hug between Maki and her drunk co-worker, but in any case, judging by the luggage, we are to assume that Liz has been living with Sumire ever since?

Suffering all the while, no doubt.

I'm confused on the time here. If Maki has released a book, has a lot of time passed between the beginning of the chapter and the end?

The passage of time isn't exactly clear and it confused me as well. In chapter 18 it was snowing, yet in chapter 20 Maki and Tsucchi are sitting in the park, eating an ice cream and they aren't wearing coats or scarves, so we can assume it's relatively warm during the day but not at night as Maki's colleague is wearing a coat and a scarf (ch.18 and 20). Liz leaves Sumire's apartment probably the night after finding out the truth (no heavy clothing, it's still relatively warm...for some reason). The Liberty's concert probably happened a few weeks later, in the meanwhile Maki has won the competition for emerging writes and gets her book published. In my opinion, less than a month passed between the first half and the second half of this chapter. 2 or 3 weeks at best.

A chapter or Liberty that doesn't contain misunderstanding-fueled drama...it makes me nostalgic for the time I liked this manga lol. We all know Liz and Maki are going to end up together, but I would honestly prefer if they didn't, and instead grew and found happiness separately (like in this chapter). But I guess if that happened this wouldn't be a romance.

I'm confused on the time here. If Maki has released a book, has a lot of time passed between the beginning of the chapter and the end?

The people at her office were celebrating the potential acceptance of her manuscript in the previous chapter (hence the drunken co-worker hug). So however long it took for the book to get published is how much time has passed.

That's what I was asking about: as far as we know, Liz was not living with Sumire when she saw that hug and then ran away in Chapter 20--which is actually a replay of the end of Chapter 19. Now she's leaving Sumire's hotel with luggage, implying that she moved some stuff from her own apartment after that.

Liz leaves Sumire's apartment probably the night after finding out the truth (no heavy clothing, it's still relatively warm...for some reason).

I don't think so--Liz leaves Sumire's wearing shorts and a light jacket, and a number of the people in the street are in shirt sleeves at night. A considerable period of time must have passed since the end of Chapter 20, and Liz has been living with Sumire for that period--hence the luggage.

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I wouldn't analyze Liz leaving Sumire's apparent too deeply. We don't know if she was living there or just had some stuff there and went to pick them up. Plus the significance of that scene was Liz growing enough of a pair to brush off Sumire's advances anyway, the rest doesn't really matter imo.

Also, I know Maki and Liz getting together is pretty much a given but I hope it doesn't happen right away. There are quite a few chapters left to fill up volume 3 so I think they can afford to have Maki reject Liz at first, prompting Liz to actually make some effort to redeem herself and regain Maki's trust. Otherwise the happy ending wouldn't feel earned.

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It's hilarious that Tsucchi's "confession" last chapter was actually just a translation error, but we were all like, "yes that tracks for this car-crash of a story."

So an undetermined amount of time has passed since Liz saw (and of course misunderstood) the hug between Maki and her drunk co-worker, but in any case, judging by the luggage, we are to assume that Liz has been living with Sumire ever since?

They stayed in the hotel. I assumed this is the day after that woman told Liz about having a husband and a kid(talking about liz's farewell). Then we have some kind of a time skip seeing liz at her concerts until she saw the info about Maki's book

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Is it wrong that I don't feel bad for Liz at all for being alone when she brought this on herself because she's a scummy dirty cheater? And that Honjo should tell her to kick rocks and piss off and leave her to be sad and alone all by herself because Liz doesn't deserve someone as sweet as her?

I really hate those stories where someone cheats and then feels bad about it and goes back to the person they cheated on and they're just forgiven instantly. I guess I just hold grudges too much and would honestly never want to talk to that person again. This trope is as annoying as the random EX from the past shows up and for some reason no matter how badly they hurt the MC the MC instantly wants to ruin whatever relationship they're in now just to go back to that person... OH WAIT THAT HAPPENED IN THIS SERIES AS WELL.

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Chapter 20 has been updated (as the first page says). Please clear your browser's cache or go to the chapter itself and then click ctrl + f5 to see the updated version!

More accurately, the mistake they corrected was in page 6.

It was a pretty big mistake too.... when I read the uncorrected version and reached that part I screamed in horror.

Don't you fucking dare you POS.

So an undetermined amount of time has passed since Liz saw (and of course misunderstood) the hug between Maki and her drunk co-worker, but in any case, judging by the luggage, we are to assume that Liz has been living with Sumire ever since?

They stayed in the hotel. I assumed this is the day after that woman told Liz about having a husband and a kid(talking about liz's farewell). Then we have some kind of a time skip seeing liz at her concerts until she saw the info about Maki's book

No, it's most likely not that day at all. In this story, days go over multiple chapters, and one chapter backtracks over the previous one so that both end at the scene of Maki hugging the co-worker. Here is the timeline, and everything up to and including Day 6 are definite:

• Day 1: Liz discovers that the person who wants to do an ad campaign is really “Senpai”

• Day 2: Meeting in Shibuya, makeover, Liz & Senpai have sex

• Day 3: Liz goes home, feels guilty

• Day 4: Debut celebration party, Sumire tells Maki to break up with Liz, Maki goes to her own apartment

• Day 5: Jasmine tells Liz to apologize to Maki, Tsucchi tells Maki to get in touch with Liz. Sumire (unannounced) picks up Liz in front of Liz’s apartment. Maki & Tsucchi confront Liz & Sumire in front of Liz’s apartment. (It’s snowing.)

• Day 6: Story of alleged Liz & Sumire relationship breaks in the media. Sumire invites Liz to another party, hears of Sumire’s “family” in England. On the way back from the party, Liz learns that Sumire is married and has a child. Liz jumps out of the car, goes to the office, gets scolded by Jasmine, sees Maki hugging co-worker. (It's cold, Liz is in her sleeveless party dress but has somehow gotten a hoodie; other people are in hoodies and scarves.)

• Day ?: Liz leaves Sumire’s apartment with a rolling, full-size carry-on piece of luggage. She is wearing a light jacket and shorts. (People on the street are in light jackets or shirt sleeves.)

Liz has had no reason or opportunity to bring "a few things" to Sumire's apartment until after her abortive attempt to see Maki. Prior to that she clearly was staying in her own apartment.

I'm tempted to say that the writer is simply inattentive about details, but things like luggage, clothing, and time of season are the artist's responsibility, and Momono Moto has never been a notably sloppy artist.

I'm tempted to say that the writer is simply inattentive about details, but things like luggage, clothing, and time of season are the artist's responsibility, and Momono Moto has never been a notably sloppy artist.

That could probably be it. Moto might be the artist, but this is Izumi's manga. I think if the script said that Liz was leaving from Sumire's apartment and whatnot, Moto would probably just draw it that way regardless of inconsistencies.

Then again, I don' think it really matters.

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No bish, leave her alone.

Man I somehow hope her fans will find out that the encouragement they got was coming from nothing but betrayal and cheating that coated with sugar, and what they thought the "couple" that has great love stories was merely just drive by heat and have a one night stand and doesn't really feel guilty about it

I'm tempted to say that the writer is simply inattentive about details, but things like luggage, clothing, and time of season are the artist's responsibility, and Momono Moto has never been a notably sloppy artist.

That could probably be it. Moto might be the artist, but this is Izumi's manga. I think if the script said that Liz was leaving from Sumire's apartment and whatnot, Moto would probably just draw it that way regardless of inconsistencies.

Then again, I don' think it really matters.

Well, it matters in that at the end of both chapters 19 and 20, Liz runs off into the darkness thinking that her attempt to reconcile with Maki is a no-go. Even so, there's no reason for her to run to Sumire's place--she's just decided that Sumire has been manipulating her and has caused her to lose her true love. (Pause here for snickering and smirking among the reading audience.)

As you suggest, we can't totally rule out the possibility that the creators have totally lost track of what the fuck is going on.

It's going to be real disappointing when this car crash of a series has a boring typical ending

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It's going to be real disappointing when this car crash of a series has a boring typical ending

Heard that. I can't believe that I previously missed the part in Chapter 9 where Liz gets totally down that she gave an interview and the writer edited out all her pretentious bullshit about saving the world via "Liberty!," and she's so bummed that she wants to just give up and go home but Maki gives her the old, "You're Liz! Everybody's here to see you!" pep talk so Liz gets a renewed fighting spirit and goes off to do her thing.

But first she punches the shit out of Maki. In gratitude, I guess:

https://dynasty-scans.com/chapters/liberty_ch09#11

So I suppose for the ending she's going to go find Maki in Osaka and apologize for cheating on her and beg her to take her back, and even though Tsucchi warns her not to fall into the same old trap Maki realizes that Liz really does love her and needs her, so the two of them reconcile.

Then Liz sets Maki on fire.