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joined Oct 25, 2014

I root for Fuuko because she's hot. I don't need to sympathize with her.

Yes, I'm shallow. Sue me.

10466e3de
joined Oct 25, 2014

And in that way Erika and Koto can finally be together yes yes yes.

That relationship is cursed. It's never gonna work out even if Aya and Koto don't stay together.

10466e3de
joined Oct 25, 2014

I have thoughts! They're all over the place though:

I know this is a bittersweet situation for them all but Koto is really dropping the ball on some things here. I know it's Aya's own insecurities and not wanting to be a burden that's forcing her to get a job. But Koto needs to do a little better herself. How have they not talk about how they refer to each other? I honestly see a split up happening whether temporary or not. This new girl who showed up. I wonder if she's really there just to give Aya a job?

That new girl is Koto's age. It wouldn't change anything for Aya in terms of interpersonal dynamics. Her problem is that she's too young for Koto and she would have the same problem with this new girl. That considering, I don't think this new girl is a potential suitor for Aya.

10466e3de
joined Oct 25, 2014

Making her float a little was very smart, or else she would totally feel like a scam and that would be awkward.... I wonder what other things she can do

Didn't she just toss her in the air and immediately catch her again? Not sure it was actual levitation...

Pay attention to the next page. The kid was floating in the air for a while.

10466e3de
joined Oct 25, 2014

A very different take on the story, this one looks to have focused more on the kingdom being actively endangered thus putting a drain on the princess that way.

While the serialized version looks to be focusing much more on their relationship while as of yet saying that the kingdom is going to be more than fine without the sword. With grief over losing her family being the main drain on the princess.

I'm pretty sure the serialized version is gonna end up the same way as this one. The water princess did warn Natalia that without the sword, her kingdom would be in great danger. So regardless of what her brother said, shit is probably gonna hit the fan all the same.

last edited at Dec 3, 2023 12:20AM

10466e3de
joined Oct 25, 2014

Aya's the one with the abandonment trauma. Don't know where people are getting the idea that Koto has such a trauma too. Sure Aya's disappearance fucked Koto up, but we don't know anything about her past yet. The story is actually focusing more on Aya's past than Koto's. First the matter with her grandfather, not that flashback to a woman that seems to be her mother.

Koto might have been the protagonist of chapter 1, but Aya has been the protagonist since she came back. Now I'm more convinced than ever that this is primarily Aya's story.

What are you talking about? It’s made clear since chapter one that Aya’s disappearance has caused Koto trauma. People can experience trauma from abandonment by the death/disappearance of anyone they care about, not just family members. Koto lost Aya at a very pivotal moment in her adolescent life. She 100% has abandonment trauma from this.

All that is an assumption. We don't know anything about Koto yet. Is she traumatized or simply moved on. It's not clear yet.

Also this ain’t a competition on who’s the protagonist lol.

Who says it's competition. My point is that the one we know the most about is Aya. We mostly see things from her point of view and she's the only one who has some of her past revealed to some extent. Unlike Koto and Erika, who are a total mystery and we know very little about, we know much more about Aya. That's what the story is primarily about. Which is interesting, because some people thought Aya would just be a plot device to get Koto and Erika together, but so far it has been nothing like that. If anything, Koto and Erika are the plot devices to explore Aya's feelings.

And just so you know but I've read up to chapter 7 too.

10466e3de
joined Oct 25, 2014

Koto is very attached to Aya. But the mystery is that it’s still not made clear how much of it is actually romantic, and how much is coming from her abandonment trauma. What complicates Koto’s feelings further is that, well, Aya’s an obvious kid (this gap will be presented even more prominently in later chapters). There’s no doubt she cares about Aya though. And it seems she’s lived a pretty emotionally disconnected life since Aya’s disappearance (hence Erika’s desire to have her become “normal” again).

I’ve always read the script scene as metaphorical.

Aya's the one with the abandonment trauma. Don't know where people are getting the idea that Koto has such a trauma too. Sure Aya's disappearance fucked Koto up, but we don't know anything about her past yet. The story is actually focusing more on Aya's past than Koto's. First the matter with her grandfather, not that flashback to a woman that seems to be her mother.

Koto might have been the protagonist of chapter 1, but Aya has been the protagonist since she came back. Now I'm more convinced than ever that this is primarily Aya's story.

last edited at Oct 24, 2023 9:20PM

10466e3de
joined Oct 25, 2014

There's something really fishy about Koto's script. It has Aya and Koto's names in it instead of the character names for the play (and Koto wasn't even acting for the play if I remember correctly). Is this the same script or something else entirely??

What's going on here, Koto? What are you doing? You looked kind of aloof during your date, but now it actually seems like you're super obsessed with Aya, even more so than 7 years ago....

On another note, that little Aya flashback suggests her mother leaving her with her grandpa was a pretty traumatic moment for her. Abandonment issues?

And poor Karen. She looks like she's getting ready to pursue Koto properly now, but I wonder if she knows that Koto writes creepy fanfiction about herself and a high-school aged Aya. lol

last edited at Oct 24, 2023 6:57PM

Kazu-kun
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joined Oct 25, 2014

Yatosaki Haru does have a bit of same-face syndrome. But older Aoi looks literally exactly the same as Yuu's sister, even down to their chest size (recall that the dialogue explicitly calls attention to Yuu's chest size). And while we learn that Yuu's sister is named "Kaho," we never learn what her mother's first name is. Finally, on a thematic level, Yuu deals with very similar insecurities and self-worth issues that Aoi does, but unlike Aoi she never takes it out on her beautiful best friend/crush. In other words, Yuu is basically Aoi post-character development.

This all could be coincidence, but combined with Yatosaki saying that Aoi appears in Ami-chan's Diary, Aoi being Yuu's mother seems the most likely explanation.

That's an interesting theory and all but that's all it is, a theory. There's no confirmation in the text, so the fact is Aoi does not appear in Ami-chan's diary, and no amount of theorizing changes that.

last edited at Oct 7, 2023 2:59PM

10466e3de
joined Oct 25, 2014

She doesn't have to go out of her way to say she was spying on them seven years ago.

I don't know that she doesn't have to, but she definitely wouldn't want to, because spying is kinda creepy...

last edited at Oct 1, 2023 3:46AM

10466e3de
joined Oct 25, 2014

I think she genuinely wants the former, but also can’t help hoping for the latter. But I think that’s very normal for anyone who has held onto an unrequited love for this long. Even if you were the kindest person ever. I don’t think that makes her untrustworthy.

She feels untrustworthy to me because the way she framed the conversation seemed kinda manipulative. She never really asked Koto how she feels about Aya right now. Rather, she said "if you moved on already, you have to make it clear." Koto never said she moved on so why is Erika going there from the get go? It feels like she's pushing Koto in that direction in a moment when Koto hasn't even figured out her feelings yet. That's not what a good friend would do imo.

But you're free to disagree. These are just my impressions. It's not like anything is confirmed just yet.

EDIT: By the way, another thing I realized after reading the chapters again is that Erika lied to Aya in chapter 2. When Aya told her she and Koto had started dating, Erika said "I already knew." However, in chapter 3 she told Koto she found out they were dating from Aya just now. I don't think she would lie to Koto so I think she lied to Aya. But why? What's the point of lying about something so insignificant? It just made her look petty.

I think grandpa may have been distant/emotionally unavailable and she may have been neglected. But they haven’t delved into it yet so who knows. Aya doesn’t seem like someone who carries a huge amount of trauma imo, so I’d like to think the abuse didn’t run deeper. But again we shall see.

Aya did seem like she was carrying some trauma back in chapter 1 though. And also, she had a clear sense of relief when she found out her grandfather was dead. Look at this dialog:

Erika: It was a shame, you know, about your grandpa

Aya: You're wrong, Erika. The first thing that came to my mind was that it was finally over.

If you look at Aya's line on its own, then yes, various interpretations are possible. But when you add Erika's line and Aya's reply, things start to feel like there's something fishy going on. Erika said "it's a shame" and Aya's like "you're wrong, it's not a shame, it's finally over." So there's something deeper going on here. Hopefully we'll get more clues soon enough. Maybe when Aya and Koto have their date. I'm looking forwards to that.

last edited at Sep 30, 2023 8:22PM

10466e3de
joined Oct 25, 2014

"it's finally over" could be anything from "grandpa was abusive" to "grandpa was old and fighting cancer in lots of pain" to "grandpa had dementia"

Those interpretations wouldn't explain her behavior in the first chapter. If her grandfather was a good person and was sick or something like that, why did Aya felt she had no place in the world? It felt like she wanted to run away to somewhere far away.

10466e3de
joined Oct 25, 2014

Somehow I can't trust Erika either. It's nice that she's trying to push Koto to face Aya, but it feels she's doing this more for her own sake than for Aya or Koto. Like she just wants Koto to move on so she can get a chance herself.

Oh no, the horror, she wants her friend to move on from her traumatic experience to have a chance to do something that will not harm anyone. The villain.

Moving on from the traumatic experience and moving on from Aya aren't the same thing. Besides, is she doing this for Koto's sake or for her own sake? That matters too.

That said, I don't remember saying she's a villain. I merely said I can't trust her.

10466e3de
joined Oct 25, 2014

Somehow I can't trust Erika either. It's nice that she's trying to push Koto to face Aya, but it feels she's doing this more for her own sake than for Aya or Koto. Like she just wants Koto to move on so she can get a chance herself.

On top of that it's highly suspicious that the last conversation Aya had in the past was with Erika. What did they talk about?

last edited at Sep 30, 2023 5:47PM

10466e3de
joined Oct 25, 2014

I knew it. I previously posted that there were strong hints that Aya had some severe emotional issues. That she felt she didn't have a place to belong to and such. Now we finally know why. It looks like her grandfather wasn't a good person. Who knows what he did to her.

And as expected, Aya is not here just to give Koto or Erika closure. Aya has her own problems that the story is gonna explore. That's great. Hopefully Koto would stop running away and finally face her properly. Aya only ever dropped her guard around Koto in the past, so I get the feeling we will only learn more about her issues and whatever happened with her grandfather if Koto is involved. Aya won't reveal any of that to Erika.

last edited at Sep 30, 2023 2:00PM

Kazu-kun
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joined Oct 25, 2014

Now the snake bitch is even more in the wrong. (As expected.)

She's not wrong. Her point is totally true. As long as the sword is rooted into Sara, no one can use it, and without it, Natalia's kingdom is doomed. This is why she wanted to kill Sara.

Her methods are somewhat extreme I guess, but everything she said it's 300% true.

She's wrong because she assumed that Sara had stolen the sword and that she was a villainous liar who took an opportunity to sidle up to the princess.

That's besides the point though. It doesn't matter if Sara stole the sword of got unwillingly. The fact is Natalia's kingdom is doomed without it.

That was the point of the comment you responded to. "Intentionally," etc.

I argue the post was kind of vague about it though. Besides, ultimately the larger point is the fact that she's right about Natalia and her kingdom being royally screwed without the sword.

Kazu-kun
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joined Oct 25, 2014

Now the snake bitch is even more in the wrong. (As expected.)

She's not wrong. Her point is totally true. As long as the sword is rooted into Sara, no one can use it, and without it, Natalia's kingdom is doomed. This is why she wanted to kill Sara.

Her methods are somewhat extreme I guess, but everything she said it's 300% true.

She's wrong because she assumed that Sara had stolen the sword and that she was a villainous liar who took an opportunity to sidle up to the princess.

That's besides the point though. It doesn't matter if Sara stole the sword ot got it unwillingly. The fact is Natalia's kingdom is doomed without it.

last edited at Sep 25, 2023 9:10PM

Kazu-kun
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Now the snake bitch is even more in the wrong. (As expected.)

She's not wrong. Her point is totally true. As long as the sword is rooted into Sara, no one can use it, and without it, Natalia's kingdom is doomed. This is why she wanted to kill Sara.

Her methods are somewhat extreme I guess, but everything she said it's 300% true.

Kazu-kun
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joined Oct 25, 2014

The brother is an asshole. Now the sword is useless. How is Natalia gonna defend her country now?

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joined Oct 25, 2014

It's hot and all but did she put Chasing Spica on hiatus so she could waste her time drawing YuShizu porn? It's a shame.

last edited at Sep 20, 2023 4:59PM

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joined Oct 25, 2014

If this was any other author I would think Eri has feelings for Fuyiki and is just in denial. But this is Murasakino who sometimes goes for unconventional developments.

I think we should consider the possibility that Eri has no romantic feelings for Fuyuki. The possibility that her obsession over Fuyuki stems from the fact Fuyuki was the only one who didn't abandon her when they were kids and has nothing to do with romance.

last edited at Sep 16, 2023 10:17PM

10466e3de
joined Oct 25, 2014

The Tags are kinda confusing is it a more of a yuri or het love triangle? or equal possibility? I'll find out on my own

I would say it's more het since she makes out with the dude in almost every chapter. lol

Overall, what I feel about this manga is that it's interesting as a regular manga but somewhat disappointing as a yuri manga. I think when it comes to storytelling, the "journey" is as important as the "destination". If 80-90% of the "journey" is het stuff, I'd feel I wasted my time reading it regardless of how it ends.

80% is not het stuff. We're at chapter 5 out of 110 and still going strong. It's a story that has a point and is developing, and allowing it's characters to develop and deal with their complicated issues. That's all. We haven't even met the vast majority of it's characters yet or it's other couples. It just started. Your criticizing the "journey" when you just took one step out of the front door.

I actually read ahead up to around chapter 20 though, and my opinion is valid at least to that point.

Of course there are many more chapters but I think 20 chapters is more than enough to get a sense of what kind of story it is.

last edited at Sep 10, 2023 11:34AM

10466e3de
joined Oct 25, 2014

The Tags are kinda confusing is it a more of a yuri or het love triangle? or equal possibility? I'll find out on my own

I would say it's more het since she makes out with the dude in almost every chapter. lol

Overall, what I feel about this manga is that it's interesting as a regular manga but somewhat disappointing as a yuri manga. I think when it comes to storytelling, the "journey" is as important as the "destination". If 80-90% of the "journey" is het stuff, I'd feel I wasted my time reading it regardless of how it ends.

10466e3de
joined Oct 25, 2014

Yeah I suppose you started going out with Koto yesterday, Koto however uhh, has been forced to take seven years of trying to move on, so we'll see if that relationship holds up.

I would be willing to bet that Koto's feelings for Aya are as strong as ever though.

Erika still feels like the rival character, not the true love interest.

Kazu-kun
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joined Oct 25, 2014

She has Natalia's blood. Could it be that this is the reason the sword ended up rooted into her instead of Natalia?

last edited at Aug 26, 2023 12:59AM