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Setsuko2
joined Jan 20, 2014

lol she's okay with touching and possible rape, but kissing is where she draws the line? this just got really stupid. why couldn't they have a nice fluffy confession and connection like the other pair XD wtf lol

Tongtong.exe
joined Apr 27, 2021

In defense of the manga, the only person claiming Momo is somehow to blame for this situation is literally the person who just blackmailed and raped Nanase, so her trying to come up with some kind of convoluted justification for her actions makes at least some amount of sense.

Still, I agree with FlufflyCow's comments above as well, this entire development is just really weird and uncomfortable. Also, from the current flow of the story it seems like we won't even get Nanase having any real remorse for her behaviour.
Maybe, instead of having Mary as this weird sexual predator interested in Nanase, making her a sort of "white knight" who cares for Momo and "defends" her against Nanase would have been cool. That way, both Nanase and Momo would have reasons to reflect on themselves and change for the better. But that is just fantasy at this point...

last edited at Jun 14, 2021 2:48PM

20180327_165604
joined Nov 9, 2017

blackmails and rapes someone
"Why are you making me the bad guy?"

Stardusttelepath8
joined Oct 15, 2014

And this brings us up to date with the available RAWs.

No, chapter 30 is already out. Plus, we are still to receive the one from this month, so chapter 31 isn't far away either.

By "available", I mean not behind a paywall. Ch30 will be free to read (and thus easier to scanlate) once the next chapter is released in about a week.

Angryface
joined Mar 22, 2021

blackmails and rapes someone
"Why are you making me the bad guy?"

Now I just want a Who Killed Hannibal? meme of this.

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joined Sep 27, 2017

blackmails and rapes someone
"Why are you making me the bad guy?"

1000% this and the other people saying it. Holy fuck the logic in this series is genuinely unbelievable and awful.

joined Jan 5, 2020

this escalated quickly.... I like it despite it definitely feeling out of place. I am a fan of some NTR and bullying though...

joined May 15, 2021

Well not like i expected another thing from Mary, she is mentally-twisted enough to call other ppl bad guy after what she did hahaha

joined Apr 8, 2021

blackmails and rapes someone
"Why are you making me the bad guy?"

"What about Nanase's feelings? Have you ever even once considered how she feels? Because I definitely haven't."

1000% this and the other people saying it. Holy fuck the logic in this series is genuinely unbelievable and awful.

My belief is that mangaka generally suck at actually writing stories because they spend the time and effort that a novelist would put into writing, into developing their art instead. So I'm normally inclined, albeit reluctantly, to give some leeway to bad writing because being good at both art and writing is a big task. There's no excusing this nonsense r*** plot, though...

last edited at Jun 14, 2021 4:02PM

20180327_165604
joined Nov 9, 2017

This manga was shaky as hell in the first few chapters and it's going downhill again fast these last few chapters, but at least the middle parts with Ren and Ginno were cute. Maybe when this stupidity is sorted out, we'll get a decent few chapters at the end.

joined Jul 5, 2019

KISSING >>>>> All other sexual activity
wut?

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joined Sep 27, 2017

blackmails and rapes someone
"Why are you making me the bad guy?"

"What about Nanase's feelings? Have you ever even once considered how she feels? Because I definitely haven't."

1000% this and the other people saying it. Holy fuck the logic in this series is genuinely unbelievable and awful.

My belief is that mangaka generally suck at actually writing stories because they spend the time and effort that a novelist would put into writing, into developing their art instead. So I'm normally inclined, albeit reluctantly, to give some leeway to bad writing because being good at both art and writing is a big task. There's no excusing this nonsense r*** plot, though...

I think it's better to not generalize. There are plenty of mangaka that are good and even great at writing stories, and of course there are ones that aren't so good. There are also lots of amateur mangaka and novelists producing works, and ones that just do it casually for fun. Ultimately I think writing a story and a good one at that, or even just a decent one, is difficult in general. Regardless of if you're a novelist, mangaka, script writer, so fourth.

Angryface
joined Mar 22, 2021

This manga was shaky as hell in the first few chapters and it's going downhill again fast these last few chapters, but at least the middle parts with Ren and Ginno were cute. Maybe when this stupidity is sorted out, we'll get a decent few chapters at the end.

That is what amazes me the most about this manga. I really enjoyed all the character sduring that arc. I even thought Nanase was a good character helping them confess and not doing anything too bad with Momo. Then the author just decides to jump the shark and throw away logic and reason.

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joined Sep 27, 2017

This manga was shaky as hell in the first few chapters and it's going downhill again fast these last few chapters, but at least the middle parts with Ren and Ginno were cute. Maybe when this stupidity is sorted out, we'll get a decent few chapters at the end.

That is what amazes me the most about this manga. I really enjoyed all the character sduring that arc. I even thought Nanase was a good character helping them confess and not doing anything too bad with Momo. Then the author just decides to jump the shark and throw away logic and reason.

Right? It's really weird how the Aquarium date chapter and a couple chapters before it were honestly fine despite the incredibly shaky start, I thought hey the manga is improving and the author is learning! I guess not with these recent chapters though, the author for some reason did a swift swerve off the road and right off a fucking cliff haha

Munch
joined Mar 23, 2021

shit

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joined Dec 7, 2020

This manga was shaky as hell in the first few chapters and it's going downhill again fast these last few chapters, but at least the middle parts with Ren and Ginno were cute. Maybe when this stupidity is sorted out, we'll get a decent few chapters at the end.

That is what amazes me the most about this manga. I really enjoyed all the character sduring that arc. I even thought Nanase was a good character helping them confess and not doing anything too bad with Momo. Then the author just decides to jump the shark and throw away logic and reason.

Right? It's really weird how the Aquarium date chapter and a couple chapters before it were honestly fine despite the incredibly shaky start, I thought hey the manga is improving and the author is learning! I guess not with these recent chapters though, the author for some reason did a swift swerve off the road and right off a fucking cliff haha

I have no idea what direction the author is even taking this, but your last sentence seems pretty apt based on this chapter. Christ.

Chinatsu%202
joined Jan 27, 2016

I'm still glad I put this manga on double secret probation after chapter 1 and just pop in every so often to see if it's stopped sucking because every time I pop in it sucks even more. This is the dumbest shit I've seen in a while, like some Liberty tier bullshit.

last edited at Jun 14, 2021 6:12PM

KatzeDerNacht
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joined Apr 27, 2014

Hmm, I can't draw manga or create stories, but I can appreciate a work well done. I don't feel this is the case at all. W T F. I am not sure if what she did counts as rape but it's definitely sexual assault, right? I am suspecting we won't get a confession either. Bleh, I still would like for them to become an actual couple, or if everyone is secretly aliens and they fly home next chapter, either way is fine with me at this point.

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joined Jan 4, 2021

Wtf...

joined May 24, 2014

Wtf...

It's THE END of the republican party, Man!

joined Feb 27, 2018

Ok so I just did a quick re-read of the entirety up to ch29. And all the people saying this is some weird karmic payback really need to stop. Nanase straight up confessed in chapter 1 and Momo never replied. Momo’s reaction to Nanase’s harassment is embarrassed but not uncomfortable and the first time she stays over at Nanase’s house she’s disappointed that nothing happened, it’s pretty clear their feelings are mutual but Momo never moves forward. As for Nanase and the people saying she’s as bad as Mary, Nanase literally makes a point of saying after she gets frustrated at he second sleepover that she wants to make Momo feel good and embarrassed with her consent!.
Basically Mary is a messed up sexual predator who blackmailed and tried to r*pe Nanase, Nanase is an S who’s trying to get Momo to acknowledge her feelings and loves to tease her (but has a f*cking limit), and Momo is typical romance DENSE when it comes to the line between friendship and love.

Aoi
joined Jul 1, 2014

Honestly I prefer this over the senpais

Soralaylaff
joined Oct 16, 2013

Ok so I just did a quick re-read of the entirety up to ch29. And all the people saying this is some weird karmic payback really need to stop. Nanase straight up confessed in chapter 1 and Momo never replied.

OK I did a reread of ch 1 and you're right, but man it left so little impact that I (and probably others) have completely forgot about it lol. I don't really blame Momo being dense at that point because it was really mixed in with all the teasing. She is dense after all the other things, but still can't completely blame her since Nanase has done so much to her under the pretense of "teasing" that I'd get that its hard to know when she is being serious.

Regardless if Momo was actually disturbed or only embarrassed still doesn't excuse that Nanase's limits are completely messed up. I mean... her limit is basically just before actual rape. Everything else she did was still sexual harassment. I know it's an ecchi gag manga and we're not really supposed to take it seriously, but because the author keeps poorly jumping back and forth between gag and serious moments, I can't help but feel uncomfortable with Nanase's behavior. Because of how poorly the author is handling the direction of this manga, it feels like the message the author is delivering is that what Nanase is doing is OK as long as you don't go as far Mary's actions.

Author intent is really important when it comes to stuff like this. Like if it's meant to be practically porn with all of the author's fetishes then I'm not gonna bother taking it seriously. But this one always gives off the feeling to me that there's a lesson somewhere and that we should take the actions of these characters seriously.

Honestly I prefer this over the senpais

Normally I would too because the senpai story, although cute and wholesome, is pretty generic and we've seen it a million times before. But God I really dont like how the author is handling Nanase and Momo's storyline at all.

Rsz_1screenshot_7
joined Aug 23, 2015

if there is one thing about this story that's constant, it's that it will make people comment on it. hooo boy this story.

Yvo0lylulbwzixjblrxj
joined May 12, 2020

Oh you motherf... This is even worse that I could have imagined. Now the rapist is criticising Momo because she didnt consider her molester's feelings.

Like this manga needs a few more tags. Rape, NTR, What the fuck am I reading?

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