IIRC, the frog dies in the original story.

Don't they both die? I looked it up once, but can't quite recall at the moment.

The short story has no real ending. The salamander and the frog spend years stuck in the cave and they still stubbornly refuse to admit they appreciate each other's company.

IIRC, the frog dies in the original story.

Don't they both die? I looked it up once, but can't quite recall at the moment.

The short story has no real ending. The salamander and the frog spend years stuck in the cave and they still stubbornly refuse to admit they appreciate each other's company.

Tsundere couples, in MY classic lit?!

IIRC, the frog dies in the original story.

Don't they both die? I looked it up once, but can't quite recall at the moment.

The short story has no real ending. The salamander and the frog spend years stuck in the cave and they still stubbornly refuse to admit they appreciate each other's company.

Tsundere couples, in MY classic lit?!

Now you see why Japan likes tsundere so much. They have such a long tradition.

Koyuki was reading it here: https://dynasty-scans.com/chapters/nettaigyo_wa_yuki_ni_kogareru_ch14#13 while writing her own fix fic of the ending that ended up happening to her in real life.

In practice, it was not the salamander but his companion in the hollow of the rock who was first careless enough to heave a deep sigh. "Aaaah..." went the sigh, like the faintest of breezes. It was the sight of the hair moss busily scattering its pollen, as it had done the year before, that had inspired it.
The salamander could hardly fail to hear. He looked upwards, and with eyes full of friendship inquired:
"You just heaved a big sigh just now, didn't you?"
"And what if I did?" responded the other defensively.
"Don't reply like that. You can come down from there now."
"I'm too starved to move."
"You mean, you think you've had it?"
"I think I've had it."
It was some time before the salamander inquired again:
"What would you say you're thinking of now?"
"Even now," replied the frog with the utmost diffidence, "I'm not really annoyed with you."

Textbook tsundere reply.

By the way, I feel like with the author's love of callbacks, Koyuki will eventually end up saying that line: "I wish we could always be together." once the time for her to actually leave approaches. The end of the chapter I linked even has it in the editorial blurb. "... So, then what about you, Konatsu-chan? Do you want us to always be together? For me, I'm sure that I..." She won't ask her, she can't ask her, at least for now...

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BeanBeanKingdom posted:

IIRC, the frog dies in the original story.

Don't they both die? I looked it up once, but can't quite recall at the moment.

The short story has no real ending. The salamander and the frog spend years stuck in the cave and they still stubbornly refuse to admit they appreciate each other's company.

I seem to recall it ends on a bittersweet note, like, the frog is dying but it can't bring itself to hate the salamander.

Well, I'm at least sure that they don't find a way out, like in the conclusion of this manga. Because the Salamander physically CAN'T get out.

BeanBeanKingdom posted:

IIRC, the frog dies in the original story.

Don't they both die? I looked it up once, but can't quite recall at the moment.

The short story has no real ending. The salamander and the frog spend years stuck in the cave and they still stubbornly refuse to admit they appreciate each other's company.

I seem to recall it ends on a bittersweet note, like, the frog is dying but it can't bring itself to hate the salamander.

Well, I'm at least sure that they don't find a way out, like in the conclusion of this manga. Because the Salamander physically CAN'T get out.

Hachimitsu provided a link for an online version and a download link in the chapter 14 release post, so everyone who's interested can just go and read it.

Textbook tsundere reply.

By the way, I feel like with the author's love of callbacks, Koyuki will eventually end up saying that line: "I wish we could always be together." once the time for her to actually leave approaches. The end of the chapter I linked even has it in the editorial blurb. "... So, then what about you, Konatsu-chan? Do you want us to always be together? For me, I'm sure that I..." She won't ask her, she can't ask her, at least for now...

This whole past arc is the result of what happens when two Tsunderes befriend one another lmao

Also, that's a great catch on the "I wish we'll always be together" I haven't really been looking at dialogue callbacks, mostly visual since their easier to spot, but now I wonder what else I've been missing. (Also, I still can't figure out the meaning of those dang shells in 28.5 ;-; )

That felt too much like an ending, it really scared me until I realized it’s only the second chapter of volume 8.

The highlight for me will be the day when they will have to say goodbye (momentarily), they will finally let go of their emotions, feelings towards each other.
This is all the more true as their relationship has evolved and seems totally unblocked, each no longer wants to waste time and spend time together.
I hope that we will have the right to events where they will enjoy spending time together and why not get closer again ^^

Kaede is firmly in the "so best girl it hurts" category. I hope she can deal with her own loneliness before the end of the series, it's nice to see that it's being expanded upon, I'm guessing her siblings will actually be introduced later on.

By the way, unless the next chapter is over 70 pages long, I'm guessing this volume will have five chapters instead of the usual four. Not that it really matters since the author started to divide them into multiple parts.

Wait... did something happen to Kaede's sister? I don't remember this coming up before...

https://dynasty-scans.com/chapters/nettaigyo_wa_yuki_ni_kogareru_ch20#27

They all moved elsewhere and haven't been coming back to visit.

https://dynasty-scans.com/chapters/nettaigyo_wa_yuki_ni_kogareru_ch20#27

They all moved elsewhere and haven't been coming back to visit.

I suspect the reason she got the job in the first place is to save up money to see them again.

Oh yeah, that's a good idea, bring Konatsu to spend the night with Koyuki "I'm so gay I can't form full sentences when her hair is in a ponytail" Honami, not problems there.

But seriously, even if you still keep things "subtext", Koyuki is a whole mess of a lesbian, how is she gonna react to Konatsu and Kaede sleeping over?

This but she accidentally rolls over Konatsu.

Poor Fuyuki's gonna have some kind of stroke one of these days lmao

Can't fault his taste tho, Kaede is best girl OF THE YEAR o3ob

The sleepover chapter can go a lot of ways. I expect it to be VERY awkward, granted that the three of them have never hung out together, and because Honami is probably really inexperienced when it comes to these things (as she is with everything). I mostly can’t wait to see how Kaede will react to the whole dropped honorifics thing. Anyways, totally hyped for the next chapter!

Also, does anyone else notice how Fuyuki, his mom, and Kaede’s relationship kinda mirrors Honami, her dad, and Konatsu’s relationship (wing-parents ftw).

I feel like Kaede will try to give them space and leave the room at some point.

Is the next one gonna be the finale or are we getting more than 8 vols? I

There is no indication that it's going to end here.

Kaede in wingman mode again. ^_^

Meanwhile Fuyuki keeps taking damage and these two don't even notice... :D

A-A-A Sssleepover???
Koyuki, my dear...

Owari da.

Is the next one gonna be the finale or are we getting more than 8 vols? I

I’m sure that we are going past 8. Hopefully.

The sleepover chapter can go a lot of ways. I expect it to be VERY awkward, granted that the three of them have never hung out together, and because Honami is probably really inexperienced when it comes to these things (as she is with everything). I mostly can’t wait to see how Kaede will react to the whole dropped honorifics thing. Anyways, totally hyped for the next chapter!

Also, does anyone else notice how Fuyuki, his mom, and Kaede’s relationship kinda mirrors Honami, her dad, and Konatsu’s relationship (wing-parents ftw).

Those are great points Major.

@BeanBeanKingdom thank you for the reminder about ch20!!! now we have all the context for Kaede and that helps a lot, she's been all about supporting the main characters so I'm glad she gets her own things to work with and grow too.

PLUS Sleepover! NICE is specially nice that she thought of inviting Konatsu too, truly the best friend out there.