The Mei-bot continues to struggle with its programming when attempting to communicate with the human designated Yuzu.

So i'm not the only one who thinks shes acting weird all the time?

matsuri_wins posted:

HaruMatsu when?

Meibot should just put out or get out. She is otherwise irrelevant to the story at this point.

Have you tried turning her off and then on again?

Poor Harumin, hopefully the pink bully will go with you

The Mei-bot continues to struggle with its programming when attempting to communicate with the human designated Yuzu.

So i'm not the only one who thinks shes acting weird all the time?

I know how we're supposed to be reading these characters--they're just so darned wrapped up in each other that their emotions and vulnerabilities are getting in the way. And I know that there's a way to read Mei's present actions as consistent with her overall character development.

But at the simplest level, I used to think of Mei as an interesting and fairly proactive character, one who knew how to push Yuzu's buttons, and she just isn't anymore. I certainly didn't expect that losing the weight of all those anxieties and responsibilities (the school, the family name, her secret love, etc.) would result in her becoming more recessive and unable to express herself directly.

Mei used to totally have Yuzu's number; now she needs Harumin to intervene with a shopping trip?

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Mei switched personalities completely. My whole reason for reading Citrus was to see Mei being confusing and damaged because of her fear of love, but still a pretty bossy and proud person. That combo was kickass and carried the series forward. Now she is just like a shy girl, almost invisible. Wonder if Sabu has consciously made this decision and plans for it to be temporary only.

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matsuri_wins posted:

HaruMatsu when?

Meibot should just put out or get out. She is otherwise irrelevant to the story at this point.

Have you tried turning her off and then on

I wish, someone needs to find her reset button.

“Make Aihara Mei Great Again”

The Mei-bot continues to struggle with its programming when attempting to communicate with the human designated Yuzu.

So i'm not the only one who thinks shes acting weird all the time?

I know how we're supposed to be reading these characters--they're just so darned wrapped up in each other that their emotions and vulnerabilities are getting in the way. And I know that there's a way to read Mei's present actions as consistent with her overall character development.

But at the simplest level, I used to think of Mei as an interesting and fairly proactive character, one who knew how to push Yuzu's buttons, and she just isn't anymore. I certainly didn't expect that losing the weight of all those anxieties and responsibilities (the school, the family name, her secret love, etc.) would result in her becoming more recessive and unable to express herself directly.

Mei used to totally have Yuzu's number; now she needs Harumin to intervene with a shopping trip?

Yeah I'm argee. I get that Mei is trying to change from a manipulative girl to loving girlfriend, but this character direction seems so off. I'm trying to imagine it in a way that Mei is trying so hard not to jump Yuzu's bones that it shut off everything else lol

Yuzu should always wear glasses, they look really cute on her. :3

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lol silly Yuzu, that's not how to wear airpods X)))

kek

Mei was expressing herself directly to Yuzu. Several times through normal conversations, before she finally went to ask Harumi for assistance.

Yuzu just didn't listen to her seriously. She heard the words, but didn't act on it. Even Harumi had to be pretty aggressive to get the message through to Yuzu and literally force her to look at herself in a mirror.

Also, it was good progress for Mei to talk with Harumi. They never really communicated directly before, and Harumi's mirth about Mei's rather cute request was amusing. Her image of Mei seemed to change quite a bit.

Mei was expressing herself directly to Yuzu. Several times through normal conversations, before she finally went to ask Harumi for assistance.

Yuzu just didn't listen to her seriously. She heard the words, but didn't act on it. Even Harumi had to be pretty aggressive to get the message through to Yuzu and literally force her to look at herself in a mirror

Getting Yuzu to take her seriously did not use to be a problem for Mei.

Like I said, I know how we're supposed to understand Mei's behavior; I personally just find her far less interesting than she used to be. I was hoping that the aftermath of the main series would loosen her up, not close her down.

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Ésta historia sigue adelante y esta vez más cariño y valor que drama \o/ (aunque no debe faltar... Creo!)

Mei was expressing herself directly to Yuzu. Several times through normal conversations, before she finally went to ask Harumi for assistance.

Yuzu just didn't listen to her seriously. She heard the words, but didn't act on it. Even Harumi had to be pretty aggressive to get the message through to Yuzu and literally force her to look at herself in a mirror.

Also, it was good progress for Mei to talk with Harumi. They never really communicated directly before, and Harumi's mirth about Mei's rather cute request was amusing. Her image of Mei seemed to change quite a bit.

I want to see those conversations happen, don't just tell me that those conversations happened.
Any good writer worth their salt knows that it is important to show not tell.
These last two chapters we are told that they have lots of conversations but I didn't see a damn thing.
Meibot stopped progressing as a character a long time ago.

Citrus+ is great at showing how Citrus never made any sense and Yuzu and Mei were really incompatible with each other all along. They're just too different and are completely unable to communicate with each other properly. Their relationship is a big pile of nothing and a waste of time for both of them.

Citrus+ is great at showing how Citrus never made any sense and Yuzu and Mei were really incompatible with each other all along. They're just too different and are completely unable to communicate with each other properly. Their relationship is a big pile of nothing and a waste of time for both of them.

Not sure if bait...

Dunno what the hell you guys are going on about Meibot, these chapters are showing us a previously unseen side of her and making clear how much Yuzu has changed her for good. Old Mei would never asked for help so the fact she's doing it now out of concern for Yuzu is a tremendous grow for her character.

The worst I can say about her is that she's taking some roundabouts steps in supporting Yuzu, but baby steps, for someone who never really had a good grasp on social conventions, she's doing way better than I waould've gave credit for.

I still fail to see the point of this sequel, since Matsuri and Harumin are still not getting together. I thought that the deal with Mei and Yuzu was already closed, but apparently not, and they are still trapped in the mire of miscommunication.

Also about the communication issue: one of my favourite scenes in the original story was when Yuzu talked to Mei about their relationship in the library and how she was afraid what other people might think about it. Then Mei (successfully) consoled Yuzu by telling her directly that there was no point to worry about the opinions of others.

I would gladly have more open conversations between them. Bad communication should be used as a way to create tension only in extreme situations, and unfortunately Saburouta seems to use that particular ingredient rather liberally.

On a positive note, Mei's distressed face is still so damn cute. It's hard to judge something so pretty...

I would gladly join the conversation about the chapter, but after the credit page I just can't.
Chaosteam was really messy this time around

The worst I can say about her is that she's taking some roundabouts steps in supporting Yuzu, but baby steps, for someone who never really had a good grasp on social conventions, she's doing way better than I waould've gave credit for.

That bears almost no relation to the character as first presented in this series--for all her psychological and emotional dysfunction, Mei was explicitly defined as super-competent (to the point that she was de facto running the school), and she was very used to interacting with adults in public (as she tells Yuzu in Chapter 24)--if anything, Yuzu was much less sophisticated about social conventions than Mei. This person who cannot haul Yuzu off into a corner and make her listen up is not the same person who started this series--and not one, in that respect, changed for the better.

Harumin suddenly sees that Mei has a cute and caring side, at any rate--which readers have known since the first chapters.

EDIT: @Dreamloop above--that is precisely the scene I was thinking about in regard to who Mei once was, and no longer seems to be.

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Citrus+ is great at showing how Citrus never made any sense and Yuzu and Mei were really incompatible with each other all along. They're just too different and are completely unable to communicate with each other properly. Their relationship is a big pile of nothing and a waste of time for both of them.

Not sure if bait...

I don't know what's your issue but this chapter clearly showed how they can't communicate with each other. If after everything they went through in the main series they're still like this, then I'm inclined to believe it just doesn't work.

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Oof

Is Mei jealous?

Well without the drama there wouldn't be any point in Citrus... O.o

That bears almost no relation to the character as first presented in this series--for all her psychological and emotional dysfunction, Mei was explicitly defined as super-competent (to the point that she was de facto running the school), and she was very used to interacting with adults in public.

Agreed. Her super competent side was highly appealing, and her jealous angry side was what made their interactions so great to read. Now she is shown to have been a "broken bird" all along. Is Citrus turning into conventional yuri? lol

Harumin suddenly sees that Mei has a cute and caring side, at any rate--which readers have known since the first chapters.

I am starting to think Harumin is the token straight character in this series :-( Someone just move Matsuri to a new series where she is the lead please.

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Hmm, I wish internal monologues are heavily utilized in both Citrus and Citrus+. I find it hard to see more character depth when they're just goofing around or being all too-dramatic (not totally a bad thing, but if that's all there is, like, there's not much character development or even a believable plot, then it's going to be really bad).

Even so, I'm glad they have updated.

I like these sort of slice of life-like chapters. Monthly feels so long.