There are personal opinions and there is the narrative that the author is crafting. These are two different things.

Aya craving physical intimacy when she is drunk has been established by the author as a typical and accepted part of the relationship. If anyone feels uncomfortable with that, it’s okay. But the author has gone out of their way to establish this pattern as a norm in their relationship.

That entire scene we are all remembering seemed dark because what we were witnessing was Mitsuki self-abandoning and giving Aya what she thought Aya wanted out of fear of losing her. She felt that giving Aya sex was necessary because if she couldn’t even do that Aya would leave her for the friend from the party.

Sometimes I really do wonder if we are all reading the same manga.

Death of the Author and all that, no one is ever reading the same work as anyone else. Each person brings their own morals, experiences, and expectations into works. Sometimes this is great because it means some people will catch something others will miss. Other times it's just a mess.

Green Yuri: The Next Generation

Annnnd here we go - the MitsuAya Find the Brother mission.

Hope their cell phones don't run out of battery.

It's just Aki against the world

gasp Green Yaoi.

I'm stuck between liking the plotline and not liking it, but the reason i would dislike it is because of the wait that leaves me simmering in angst and anticipation..... This, too, is peak

They're two interesting plotlines to tie together. There's the prejudice about a same sex relationship not being normal, and Aki's own sort of prejudice/idealization about things having to be perfect between Aya and Mitsuki. I guess he's going to have to learn that true normality is flawed and true heroes are those who keep pushing through rough patches.

true normality is flawed and true heroes are those who keep pushing through rough patches.

Aki was the green yuri glazers (which i am a part of)...?

So this arc was introduced with a chapter titled “Catalyst.” Could the search for the runaway sibling and his naive, tearful explanation be the “catalyst” for bringing our estranged lovers back together again?

Could it possibly not be?

Aki kun knows..love much more better than I do ಥ⁠_⁠ಥ
The issue that goes with what is normal love and what isn't..

I think, I'll stand by Aki Kun's thought of worldview
It makes the manga world much softer for the people involved

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Ok I am not a fan of “searching for the lost little kid to unite the main couple” trope, it’s boring every time so I hope it ends quickly

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Bowl cut boy I hope aki never talks to you again and finds better friends and you forever feel like you lost a great friend

The consequences of thoughtless comments...

They're two interesting plotlines to tie together. There's the prejudice about a same sex relationship not being normal, and Aki's own sort of prejudice/idealization about things having to be perfect between Aya and Mitsuki. I guess he's going to have to learn that true normality is flawed and true heroes are those who keep pushing through rough patches.

Well put! I'm really excited for this kind of storyline and to see our two gals grow more as people.

hmm interesting, we shall see how this will bring mitsuaya together

They're two interesting plotlines to tie together. There's the prejudice about a same sex relationship not being normal, and Aki's own sort of prejudice/idealization about things having to be perfect between Aya and Mitsuki. I guess he's going to have to learn that true normality is flawed and true heroes are those who keep pushing through rough patches.

I don't know, I see no interconnect between the two. What's the takeaway ?
You cannot put accepting that no couple is picture perfect next to accepting homophobia and draw parallels without it being an absolutely terrible message. One is fine and one is not. So the explanation is... "here are two different kind of problems that are completely different and unrelated and have a different and unrelated resolution" ?

That's why I find putting the plots in parallel is huge stretch and feels more like we're trying to find excuses of why the story is stretching itself into four different, almost completely unrelated directions (abandoning music, couple tensions, Shu-chan, Aki), rather than observing any meaningful correlation between each of them.

You cannot put accepting that no couple is picture perfect next to accepting homophobia and draw parallels without it being an absolutely terrible message.

Who's accepting homophobia? Where did that come from?

I don't know, I see no interconnect between the two. What's the takeaway ?
You cannot put accepting that no couple is picture perfect next to accepting homophobia and draw parallels without it being an absolutely terrible message. One is fine and one is not. So the explanation is... "here are two different kind of problems that are completely different and unrelated and have a different and unrelated resolution" ?

That's why I find putting the plots in parallel is huge stretch and feels more like we're trying to find excuses of why the story is stretching itself into four different, almost completely unrelated directions (abandoning music, couple tensions, Shu-chan, Aki), rather than observing any meaningful correlation between each of them.

By "tying two plotlines together" I simply meant that Aki looking for affirmation from Mitsuki after being subjected to homophobia resulted in him finding out Mitsuki and Aya are going through some turmoil. I did not even remotely imply he will have to accept homophobia. My idea of where this is going is that he'll learn Mitsuki is no ideal hero and that's what makes her and Aya's love perfectly normal. Whether he then manages to change Riku's mind or at least stops paying mind to his harmful behavior is up to him. As for how it would tie into Aya and Mitsuki's tensions, someone else already put forth the idea that they could both look for Aki and confront their issues to reassure him.

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I'm honestly still surprised that this topic is so divisive. For a grounded story to have a couple fighting and having communication issues, and then they have sex while one is a lot more drunk than the other, it just...rubs me the wrong way personally. Last time I deleted my thoughts on the subject because I didn't want to argue about it and it looks like that was right call, with how people are very much just not going to agree on this subject.

Nah fosho. I think debate and discussion is fun, we don't gotta all agree. I wouldn't call it arguing, idk why people are quick to shut it down. Maybe it's because online through words, I personally read all of these comments in a Ace attorney way, all silly and unserious. It's also interesting to see where people draw boundaries. Our definitions of abuse, SA, consent varies, and how comfortable we are with intimacy if other factors are involved. In media SA is often depicted as forceful and violent, consent has to be straight forward and clear cut. This kinda can be perceived as a grey area, where people have to think harder about using labels to describe this scene, the line blurs and there isn't a perfect label. There are many factors involved you have to take into consideration. The fact that it's divisive proves this in a way.

Mitsuki should let Aya about what went down last night, just the fact that she doesn't remember is the most disturbing part (imo), and that is by influence of alcohol. They probably will talk about it some chapters in the future.

this is great. honestly, i got myself worked up discussing this topic, so it's comforting to see that even though some people have normalized what happened, there are still others willing to question it.
personally, i also hope they address it, or else i'll continue to think of that moment in the manga as one of the worst, in fact, the worst.
and i'll also continue to support the idea that the mere fact that aya doesn't remember anything from that night makes everything even worse. well, i hope they mention it after her brother's situation has been resolved :/

God, some of you people just won't be happy by anything that happens. This thread is nothing but whining on top of more whining these days. Why are you continuing to read and comment if everything the author does just makes you pissy?

God, some of you people just won't be happy by anything that happens. This thread is nothing but whining on top of more whining these days. Why are you continuing to read and comment if everything the author does just makes you pissy?

I think I've said it before but I'm still a fan of the series overall and critiques I have are because I want the series to be the best it can be. Also I think for some of us we might not like certain things about the current arc but we still like the series enough to stick with it in the hopes that we'll enjoy the future of it more. I think with most stories that run long enough there's bound to be something a person doesn't like about it, doesn't mean we can't like things that come after. Ultimately I'm still hopeful about this arc sticking the landing.

and i'll also continue to support the idea that the mere fact that aya doesn't remember anything from that night

This is a false statement. Aya doesn't remember anything between blacking out at the bar and arriving at home, that's all, it's the literal text of ch169pg1. Aya mentions those two specific points in time, and it is after that second point in time that Aya wakes up and initiates intimacy. You can even see that the second point depicted lines up with the first panel of ch167pg3, where Aya comes to after having been asleep.

Aya's memory cuts out at the bar, and at some point after while still there she passes out. Mitsuki brings her home and lays her down on the bed, shortly after which Aya wakes up, having sobered up from her nap. After this point, her memory works normally. This is text, this is what the manga says, any "debate" in regards to this is based on fanfiction.

and i'll also continue to support the idea that the mere fact that aya doesn't remember anything from that night

This is a false statement. Aya doesn't remember anything between blacking out at the bar and arriving at home, that's all, it's the literal text of ch169pg1. Aya mentions those two specific points in time, and it is after that second point in time that Aya wakes up and initiates intimacy. You can even see that the second point depicted lines up with the first panel of ch167pg3, where Aya comes to after having been asleep.

Aya's memory cuts out at the bar, and at some point after while still there she passes out. Mitsuki brings her home and lays her down on the bed, shortly after which Aya wakes up, having sobered up from her nap. After this point, her memory works normally. This is text, this is what the manga says, any "debate" in regards to this is based on fanfiction.

Very much agreed. Also, where is your PFP from? It's hilarious to me for some reason.

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Man, I can't believe she saved her mom in her contacts as WOW.

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After thinking on it a bit, stating that love WILL fix every problem is honestly more irresponsible than saying it doesn't. Probably should have had a follow-up clarification for the little bro though.