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joined Jan 14, 2020

" that she was a first year in middle school and pretty much groomed a final year middle schooler"

I think you meant "final year in high school and groomed a first-year middle schooler"

Noodlerama001
joined Feb 24, 2023

The logistics of this mess me up. First year in middle school vs third year high schooler, that is I believe a six year gap. Is that really enough time for the third year student to go to uni, get a teaching degree then come back as a hired Sensei while the middle schooler is still there?

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joined Jan 14, 2020

If you let the middle schooler become a high schooler, sure. 4 years in college in teacher's ed.

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joined Jul 29, 2017

If you let the middle schooler become a high schooler, sure. 4 years in college in teacher's ed.

In the US a teacher’s-ed major might even be student-teaching in their 4th year. I don’t know how the teacher system actually works in Japan, but I have read manga with student-teacher “apprentices” or where an alum comes back to their old school and starts teaching immediately after college graduation.

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joined Jan 22, 2022

Yabai

Ykn1
joined Dec 20, 2018

A surprise revelation showing that, of course, we'll have the full couple present for this stage as well!

angelwings69420
joined Sep 22, 2025

Wow they found a relationship to portray even more upsetting than the boxcutter babes. Aoyama you poor baby. If she was a first year in middleschool that makes her at most twelve being manipulated by a seventeen or eighteen year old, thats sick.
It does make me kind of relieved that the artist is portraying this with what I consider to be real empathy for how this abuse shaped her, and how sharp and defensive she is. That tracks really well psychologically in my head at least.

I'm curious to see how this plays out because for me at least this is the heaviest topic so far getting a real spotlight. Though I think we all can smell the suicidal throughline in this and well...thats gotta go somewhere.

I am in pain. 10/10. Favorite manga currently being published.

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joined Jan 14, 2020

First year (7th grade) would be age 12-13. On average a 5 year age gap, but it could be 6 or 4 depending on birthdays. Still ages 13 and 17 at the very narrowest.

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joined May 29, 2022

at it's maximum it'd be 18 and 12. Please be at the maximum.

Nyarin
joined Mar 20, 2012

at it's maximum it'd be 18 and 12. Please be at the maximum.

Sasuga. Never change.

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Satsuaki
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joined Oct 9, 2021

Give the raws a 'like.'
Hardly know where to begin besides whoa.

This chapter starts clouded by foreknowledge that Aoyama was taken advantage of. The flashback is presented in quick snapshots, jumping from scene to scene without transition. These snapshots could all be sweeter in another context (and it lends to the surreal imagery later) but they have a deeper purpose: these are the moments Aoyama smoldered over for 6 years. She flips through them like old photographs as the rest fades away, an idyllic trauma she can't move past. It wasn't meeting Yurika that hurt her, it was how casually she was cut off after being used.

Aoyama's been trapped in the memory of something she couldn't emotionally grasp. She stuck to the library when it must remind her of Yurika every day. She cut her hair, baring her "mean look" to the world because she must not care if she scares anyone off anymore. She's not reserving it for Yurika either. But maybe she's feeding off the confidence Yurika's compliment gave her. The one thing she knows for real is Yurika broke the rules out of desire for her. She checks her stowed letter with bitter satisfaction when no one took it. The letter existed as a reminder of her loneliness and a pathetic little rebellion against Yurika's words. So long as it remains they still had that thread binding them. The thread Aoyama now tears after Yurika's return.

And here we have the generational gap. When Aoyama says, "There's no one else for me," there's a double meaning. Both that she never wanted anyone else and that Class S is extinct. Aoyama is the last dinosaur, forced into perpetuating a system that forgot its purpose beyond putting tradition on a pedestal. A system Yurika seemingly* couldn't care less about but uses in such a mechanical way to detach herself from her little sister, a convenient excuse to abandon Aoyama and guilt her into growing up past this "childish" love. Packaging the disgusting bits of Class S into the hypocritical veneer of honoring its legacy.

As the in-setting rules for soeurship are codified, it's fascinating how only Kasumi and Haruyo have done it to tradition. Yurika circumvented the system to pick her partner (and while she called her by a nickname, Aoyama only called Yurika 'Senpai'). Yamabe and Mia were only glanced by the letters and never participated in roleplay. Sayori and Mizuki engaged with it as a distraction but their relationship clearly enveloped it rather than being defined by it.

That isn't to say none of them live up to Class S - this entire manga is a love letter to the old genre and a bridge into the new. Each arc could serve as a classic Class S story that twists into the modern standards of yuri, for all that means.

Everything Kasumi and Haruyo have done is under the umbrella of Class S. They met through anonymous letters; Kasumi fits the stereotypical little sister to a T (despite her fears otherwise) and Haruyo does her best to embody an Onee-sama. You could describe them as the purest and healthiest couple, without the major upheavals or gaps others suffered. Though they've gone through pain and bitterness with more to surely come, it's through the lens of Class S they take comfort in each other. Their roleplay allowing them to open up difficult topics and recognize their truer or idealized selves.

It's ultimately a positive influence on their romance, on the romances of the 2 settled pairs too. If there's only one theme to this manga it's that. Class S was born from a painful time in history, but that pain paved the way to happiness. Yuri is the celebration of what Class S laid the groundwork for. By paying respects you take the good with the bad, exploring degrees of bittersweet to downright toxic before ultimately finding that brighter path together. Breathing new life into the old genre.

Somehow I expect Aoyama and Yurika to find some happy ending too. Igarashi is excited to show off chapter 18. And it can't escape notice this arc's flower is the most significant of all: yuri. Whatever Igarashi means by that I'll hold judgment for now. The same goes for Yurika. I can only say Yurika clearly does value Hanamonogatari, if not the trappings of Class S. She became the classic literature teacher for a reason. And returned to this school for a reason too.

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joined May 29, 2022

Hot.
And what BLAMEY said too, yeah.

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Cornonthekopp
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joined Jul 6, 2020

a scent thats too rich and overbearing...

joined Dec 30, 2025

Damn

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joined Mar 31, 2023

Thank you kindly for the translation and the wonderful context, both here and at the end of the chapter.

Shoink
joined Jun 10, 2023

The imagry of "the lily" overpowering her, fully overwhelming her, oh my god I feel gross. Incredibly effective but gahhhhh

Chinchilla
joined Apr 28, 2022

Seriously what a grooming piece of trash. I don't care if the same thing happened to her.

I still hate Aoyama for what she did to our precious innocent Kasumi. But Yurika is straight up trash. What a grooming scummy piece of garbage The girl just started Middle school And she was a senior in high school so that was what a 12 year old with an 18 year old? GROSS.

Taking advantage or someone like that

"We didn't start out that way senpai"

"Because I wanted you"

GROSSSSSS

ugh.

What an uncomfortable chapter to read. And the ending annoying me even more she damaged a helpless twelve year old with her sick games and acts like nothing ever happened. I assume it's probably partly because it happened almost exactly the same way to her she's just such a gross sick individual.

Thanks for the translate and upload

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Pov_youre_a_triple_mugger
joined Feb 19, 2016

Sweet sweet peak, thank you as always for blessing the Recently Added page

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joined Mar 27, 2018

Stuff like this really drives home the idea that the opposite of love isn't hate, it's indifference.
Even as Aoyama's love twisted into hate it's obvious she still holds strong feelings in her heart for Yurika.
Meanwhile Yurika discarded her without a whit of concern, ostensibly with no difficulty whatsoever on her part.

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joined May 21, 2021

I'm too lazy to type out all my thoughts so here's a summary: this series is sublime.

All the couples thus far have had happy endings, but I can only see darkness for this pair.

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joined Aug 14, 2020

This bitch needs a slap I swear to Yuri Christ.

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joined May 27, 2019

I feel part of the thesis of this series is the function of class s as both important legacy and a kind of generational trauma for adolescent sapphics

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joined Jul 10, 2016

This is possibly one of the best manga I've read on this site, short of Subtraction Tautology. I always save it for last when looking through the new chapters.

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joined Apr 16, 2026

seeing yurikas head turn into a lily took me right back to igarashi's idolmaster doujin... so good so good! spooky!

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I feel part of the thesis of this series is the function of class s as both important legacy and a kind of generational trauma for adolescent sapphics

Yeah, this story really seems to be about the duality of Class S relationships. There's a layer of "tradition" which provides relationships a veneer of heteronormative legitimacy to outside observers, but the relationship itself is defined so loosely that it there's an improvisational, even liberatory aspect to it.

Yurika's interesting. It's easy enough to read her as a criticism of Class S with her "tradition" line, but she's sort of using that as a cop-out. After all, she explicitly broke tradition with how she got into a relationship with Aoyama. I think an alternative reading is that she's a criticism of yuri, which as a genre, often casts aside the improvisation of negotiating a relationship dynamic in favor of reproducing more static heterosexual relationship dynamics. I'd even point out that while Aoyama is performing oral on the "female" part of the flower, it is a very phallic depiction. It's not hard to see Yurika being cast in the role of a classic patriarchal villain—a fixation on youth, chasing pleasure, emphasizing difference in social position when the wife/mistress speaks up. In that light, "It's tradition." works more as a direct call-out on the abuse enabled by "traditional" relationships.

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