This bitch needs a slap I swear to Yuri Christ.

I feel part of the thesis of this series is the function of class s as both important legacy and a kind of generational trauma for adolescent sapphics

This is possibly one of the best manga I've read on this site, short of Subtraction Tautology. I always save it for last when looking through the new chapters.

seeing yurikas head turn into a lily took me right back to igarashi's idolmaster doujin... so good so good! spooky!

I feel part of the thesis of this series is the function of class s as both important legacy and a kind of generational trauma for adolescent sapphics

Yeah, this story really seems to be about the duality of Class S relationships. There's a layer of "tradition" which provides relationships a veneer of heteronormative legitimacy to outside observers, but the relationship itself is defined so loosely that it there's an improvisational, even liberatory aspect to it.

Yurika's interesting. It's easy enough to read her as a criticism of Class S with her "tradition" line, but she's sort of using that as a cop-out. After all, she explicitly broke tradition with how she got into a relationship with Aoyama. I think an alternative reading is that she's a criticism of yuri, which as a genre, often casts aside the improvisation of negotiating a relationship dynamic in favor of reproducing more static heterosexual relationship dynamics. I'd even point out that while Aoyama is performing oral on the "female" part of the flower, it is a very phallic depiction. It's not hard to see Yurika being cast in the role of a classic patriarchal villain—a fixation on youth, chasing pleasure, emphasizing difference in social position when the wife/mistress speaks up. In that light, "It's tradition." works more as a direct call-out on the abuse enabled by "traditional" relationships.

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you can't convince me this chapter isn't from a horror manga

this literally made me nauseous

“this grooming has all been passed down for generations”

I feel part of the thesis of this series is the function of class s as both important legacy and a kind of generational trauma for adolescent sapphics

I think an alternative reading is that she's a criticism of yuri, which as a genre, often casts aside the improvisation of negotiating a relationship dynamic in favor of reproducing more static heterosexual relationship dynamics.

I gotta say, I've been seeing this idea presented a lot lately, and I have no idea what this means.

Disgusting. She took advantage of the school's "sisterhood" concept, where students are supposed to view those in older years as sisters, to hide her malicious intentions. She exploited that trust, took advantage of her, and groomed her.

AND SHE ENDS UP A TEACHER AT THE SAME SCHOOL!!! Keep this woman away from kids.

I feel part of the thesis of this series is the function of class s as both important legacy and a kind of generational trauma for adolescent sapphics

Yeah, this story really seems to be about the duality of Class S relationships. There's a layer of "tradition" which provides relationships a veneer of heteronormative legitimacy to outside observers, but the relationship itself is defined so loosely that it there's an improvisational, even liberatory aspect to it.

Yurika's interesting. It's easy enough to read her as a criticism of Class S with her "tradition" line, but she's sort of using that as a cop-out. After all, she explicitly broke tradition with how she got into a relationship with Aoyama. I think an alternative reading is that she's a criticism of yuri, which as a genre, often casts aside the improvisation of negotiating a relationship dynamic in favor of reproducing more static heterosexual relationship dynamics. I'd even point out that while Aoyama is performing oral on the "female" part of the flower, it is a very phallic depiction. It's not hard to see Yurika being cast in the role of a classic patriarchal villain—a fixation on youth, chasing pleasure, emphasizing difference in social position when the wife/mistress speaks up. In that light, "It's tradition." works more as a direct call-out on the abuse enabled by "traditional" relationships.

I don't think I agree in the slightest with the idea that more defined yuri relationships "reproduces more static heterosexual dynamics", especially when we're talking about the context of Class S here, something originally intended to be discarded once the girls left school for the sake of marrying men in a patriarchal society and tossing away any love they might have once had.

I feel like I need to re-read the previous couple arc as a pallate cleanser. Holy moly.

teach gotta go man idc if she gotta leave the school or the mortal realm but has GOT to go

This was an amazing chapter. Everything about Yurika's actions was gross and depicted as such. The flower scene was one of the most well-done flower metaphors I've seen in yuri manga. It really drove home how overwhelming this experience was for Aoyama. I have no words to adequately describe my feelings. Absolutely perfect.

Sidenote: I hate the smell of lilies.

The author really has a knack for horror it feels. There was chapter 11, and now this one with the strange twisted visuals. I love it!

Blimey. Such a trach can have the job as a teacher in a prestigious high school.

Yeah Yurika is just awful lmao. And she's also still not the first in the Class S chain. How far back does it go.

mom pick me up im scared

god igarashi does it again. this chapter is so sickening. i love this manga so much

I feel part of the thesis of this series is the function of class s as both important legacy and a kind of generational trauma for adolescent sapphics

I think an alternative reading is that she's a criticism of yuri, which as a genre, often casts aside the improvisation of negotiating a relationship dynamic in favor of reproducing more static heterosexual relationship dynamics.

I gotta say, I've been seeing this idea presented a lot lately, and I have no idea what this means.

Loosely, it's the idea that there is a clear, unspoken set of ideas that govern what a relationship should look like—a hierarchical dominant/submissive or passive/active dynamic, with several forms of proof symbolizing that bond to outsiders. For example, you "prove" intimacy physically, through public displays of affection, or by having sex.

That's not a bad thing! Libido isn't exclusively masculine; women are horny too! But using it as a measure of true intimacy excludes other forms of deeply intimate (and often permanent) relationships from what is considered a "valid" relationship—you just have to look at people calling a yuri romance that doesn't end in sex or kissing "queerbait".

So the gist here is that a lot of yuri stories often pose relationships that imitate the form of heterosexual relationships as an ideal, and in doing so unintentionally transplant in patriarchal norms that limit what a relationship can look like.

To bring it around to this:

I don't think I agree in the slightest with the idea that more defined yuri relationships "reproduces more static heterosexual dynamics", especially when we're talking about the context of Class S here, something originally intended to be discarded once the girls left school for the sake of marrying men in a patriarchal society and tossing away any love they might have once had.

It's worth remembering that the writer of Hanamonogatari, Yoshiya Nobuka, was lesbian, and wrote Class S stories that didn't have tragic endings (such as Two Virgins in the Attic). Yes, to the watchful eyes of patriarchical authorites, these relationships were "justified" in being practice for a heterosexual marriage, and supposedly discarded upon leaving school. But looking at the individual relationships in detail, you see young women figuring out what intimacy means to them, with the outcome that each relationship covered has a very different personality to it.

In effect, Class S sort of represents an alternative to patriarchal relationship structures, building something distinctly lesbian in the authorities' blind spots. The tragedy was not that these relationships existed, it was that they were broken up. I think that's the important point: viewing Class S as something inherently temporary is taking patriarchal authority at its word as it violently snuffs out alternatives to its set of norms and expectations.

Stewing on this chapter more, Yurika's the embodiment of patriarchal violence inflicted on Class S relationships, and this chapter kinda beats the readers over the head with it. Yurika explicitly connects herself to yuri. She preys on youth/naivety by painting her predations as "true love". She teaches Aoyama that love=sex. She hides behind tradition when it suits her. She reminds Aoyama of the obligations of their relative social positions. Every one of these is drawing a sharp boundary about what their relationship can be, in contrast to the other girls adapting the Class S structure to what they need from a relationship.

I have a very contrary idea about this. Women in society are seen as asexual beings, women expressing sexual desire is always analyzed and scrutinized, so relationships with two women suffer this twice (there is a reason why people always bring up sexual activity when being homophobic) not only from outsiders but also from lesbians themselves (X-gender by Miyazaki Asuka is a good example) mangas like Asumi-chan are a minority. And this is not for reasons external to the authors or readers, they are the trends that they like, even in the world of doujin the majority of yuri is R-15 and not, I am not saying there is not porn, I use nhentai and pixiv but if you compare, the ones with sex are a minority. “The secret garden of maidens” allude to that “purity”
-and before anyone jump me, i want to say i don’t have a problem that yuri is like this, i am not complaining, as i said before in this thread, class-s is one of my favorites-
I disagree that yuri use sexual intimacy as a measurement, in paper this is not true. As I said most (not all) yuri use emotional non-sexual intimacy, is not that yuri doesn’t touch these topics but it not the main focus of the genre at all. For me, the yuri that comes out of “static heterosexual dynamics” as you say (not that i agree, just citing you) is yuri with sex, where girls feel sexual attraction towards women, where they are more open to going out and having fun “getting loose”, having fixed dynamics, etc.

I also want to say that most Yuri only has kisses, so let's be honest, people don't call it queerbait when there is no sex, but when the relationship is left ambiguous enough or directly leaves it at nothing when the series was aiming for something more direct (and the truth is this has much more to do with the vision of yuri in west vs japan, and how the tag system in the west make people have strict views on a genres, strict rules that doesn’t exist originally). When I was still using Twitter, an account that I'm not going to mention but that is even recommended here for yuri recs said that Girls Band Cry was yuribait for having a kiss but leaving the relationship in nothing.

Yurika is a interesting character, how I see it, she reads as someone that feel trapped and suffocated by Class-s and want to embrace Yuri but don’t like it either, so she sullies both in the process of having sex with Aoyama, as a form of revenge, to whom? to what? Everything probably, she seem angry. She is a itome, I love her already lol

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I feel part of the thesis of this series is the function of class s as both important legacy and a kind of generational trauma for adolescent sapphics

I think an alternative reading is that she's a criticism of yuri, which as a genre, often casts aside the improvisation of negotiating a relationship dynamic in favor of reproducing more static heterosexual relationship dynamics.

I gotta say, I've been seeing this idea presented a lot lately, and I have no idea what this means.

Loosely, it's the idea that there is a clear, unspoken set of ideas that govern what a relationship should look like—a hierarchical dominant/submissive or passive/active dynamic, with several forms of proof symbolizing that bond to outsiders. For example, you "prove" intimacy physically, through public displays of affection, or by having sex.

See I agree with the idea that hierarchical or passive/active dynamics could be heterosexual, but I don't really view having sex as proving intimacy. Proving to who?

That's not a bad thing! Libido isn't exclusively masculine; women are horny too! But using it as a measure of true intimacy excludes other forms of deeply intimate (and often permanent) relationships from what is considered a "valid" relationship—you just have to look at people calling a yuri romance that doesn't end in sex or kissing "queerbait".

Are you saying that queerbaiting doesn't exist in yuri? I would argue that if one or all of the participants aren't ace, then it would be pretty rare for a romantic relationship to not explore physical intimacy. There are of course other deeply intimate relationships, like platonic ones, that do not have to have a physical intimacy component, but I'm not sure I really get your argument here.

So the gist here is that a lot of yuri stories often pose relationships that imitate the form of heterosexual relationships as an ideal, and in doing so unintentionally transplant in patriarchal norms that limit what a relationship can look like.

I agree with some of your points, but I don't really see what the patriarchy has to do with women kissing each other or having sex. Kissing has biological effects on the participants. It would exist even had patriarchy never existed.

In effect, Class S sort of represents an alternative to patriarchal relationship structures, building something distinctly lesbian in the authorities' blind spots. The tragedy was not that these relationships existed, it was that they were broken up. I think that's the important point: viewing Class S as something inherently temporary is taking patriarchal authority at its word as it violently snuffs out alternatives to its set of norms and expectations.

Again, I sort of agree with you and I think you have a good point about capitulating to those structures being a capitulation to patriarchal authority, but I also think Class S has always felt temporary. The younger student/older student dynamic itself feels like something that should end after they've graduated high school, regardless of what their relationship is. And I'm surprised you don't see the patriarchal structure in the older student/younger student dynamic.

Stewing on this chapter more, Yurika's the embodiment of patriarchal violence inflicted on Class S relationships, and this chapter kinda beats the readers over the head with it. Yurika explicitly connects herself to yuri. She preys on youth/naivety by painting her predations as "true love". She teaches Aoyama that love=sex. She hides behind tradition when it suits her. She reminds Aoyama of the obligations of their relative social positions. Every one of these is drawing a sharp boundary about what their relationship can be, in contrast to the other girls adapting the Class S structure to what they need from a relationship.

At the very least, I think this is an interesting argument. I'm holding off what I think of Yurika since I think the next chapter will expand our view of her, but I'll keep this interpretation in mind. Thanks for sharing.

I knew it, there were letters before this couple as well! I wonder whether we'll get to meet the previous generation as well, although based on senpai-now-sensei's words, she herself may have been part of that, the previous tradition of the little sister becoming the new big sister only having been broken when Aoyama got no reply...

See I agree with the idea that hierarchical or passive/active dynamics could be heterosexual, but I don't really view having sex as proving intimacy. Proving to who?

I think it's both to a person in a relationship, and as proof to other people. I think the "queerbait" thing is important here:

Are you saying that queerbaiting doesn't exist in yuri? I would argue that if one or all of the participants aren't ace, then it would be pretty rare for a romantic relationship to not explore physical intimacy. There are of course other deeply intimate relationships, like platonic ones, that do not have to have a physical intimacy component, but I'm not sure I really get your argument here.

I would argue that "queerbait" as it's generally used doesn't exist (or is at least) extremely rare from people who label themselves yuri writers. First, "bait" implies bad faith on the writer's part, that they're trying to somehow trick you with the existence of a relationship. Second, it usually gets applied to works where a relationship doesn't end up looking like what readers expect it to look like. Which is a reflection of those invisible assumptions of what a relationship should look like, and how it should be expressed.

I agree with some of your points, but I don't really see what the patriarchy has to do with women kissing each other or having sex. Kissing has biological effects on the participants. It would exist even had patriarchy never existed.

I think I should make it clear that I'm trying to distinguish between "sex is one of the things that might be important in a relationship" and "sex is the most important part of a relationship". The emphasis on sex as the most important part reflects a patriarchal expectation: it emphasizes social power as expressed through reproductive and child care expectations placed on women. Yes, physical intimacy exists independent of patriarchy, but how it is expressed and the importance it is given reflect patriarchal values, especially when lesbian relationships are mapped onto a heterosexual dynamic. To be clear, I don't think sex is bad or that physical intimacy shouldn't be depicted, it's just that there's a weird focus on it as a form of validating a serious relationship.

Again, I sort of agree with you and I think you have a good point about capitulating to those structures being a capitulation to patriarchal authority, but I also think Class S has always felt temporary. The younger student/older student dynamic itself feels like something that should end after they've graduated high school, regardless of what their relationship is. And I'm surprised you don't see the patriarchal structure in the older student/younger student dynamic.

Sure, but I think Class S being temporary is also just an artifact of its time and place in life. Relationships often don't survive past high school in general. But when people in authority underline that, there's a sort of resignation to it. Again, though, some of the Taishō-era Class S this all draws inspiration from does have some relationships surviving high school. And here, we also have the box-cutter senpais taking their relationship past school, and Yamabe and Mie rekindling their relationship after time apart. I think there is some patriarchal reflection in the older student/younger student dynamic, but given the improv (and how Kasumi and Haruyo reverse the dynamic), I'm not sure the patriarchal factors are particularly emphasized.

At the very least, I think this is an interesting argument. I'm holding off what I think of Yurika since I think the next chapter will expand our view of her, but I'll keep this interpretation in mind. Thanks for sharing.

No problem, I love talking about this kind of thing! I hope I've at least clarified my point of view, but I'll stop here so I don't keep turning this thread into walls of text.

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In the "imagery" panel with the lily, I know the flower could be seen as her head but hear me out:
she's taking the flower's sexual parts into her mouth, and then in the next panel she's lying on her back while the petal is lying on top of her face...
Is Yurika sitting on her face?

Sexually abused a child, thrown away when she got bored, now she’s teaching kids, this bitch needs to die LOL