To cut to the chase, Bou-chan (the masked Mayoi Tokino) is as big a chuunibyou as Aiba Midori, but just carries it off better.

I like how the ships are resolving, so far.

Do any of them have names?

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We updated the chapter a bit. Hope it's better now!

did i miss something it feels like mask totally changed how she regards kaoru out of no where

They interacted plenty, maybe you just missed those chapters? Their interactions are my favourite amongst all the pairings, so far Mask is the only person who turned out capable of bringing out a side of Kaoru that we do not normally see, blunt and dorky and almost childishly smug, often dropping the "gorgeous vamp" persona completely.

Mask too proved to be an exception, being apparently completely resilient to Kaoru's womanising ways and also giving as good as she gets when the two of them are trying to one-up each other. Watching them sarcastically spar and being smug when they think they scored over the other is a treat. And then there are moments where they have genuine heart-to-hearts.

Probably my favourite sequence with them is when Mask is doubting herself over her mangaka talents. In chapter 236 she actually goes to the library hoping to stumble upon Kaoru there, but does not find her. In the end she basically talks to herself while pretending to speak to Kaoru in what is essentially a moment of extreme emotional weakness - this was almost 30 chapters ago and is a pretty big indicator that Mask has positive feelings for Kaoru, even if she still verbally spars with her.

Then in chapter 249 they actually do end up having this conversation for real, after Kaoru catches Mask sleeping on the train and gets worried, accurately deducing the latter stayed up all night drawing manga, fuelled by her feelings of inferiority in regards to Onibi. Kaoru offers genuine praise, completely free of any seduction undertones, is blunt and even ends said praise by literally calling Mask an idiot. Mask, for her part, breaks down in tears.

Mask is also aware of Kaoru's reputation and nature (keep in mind that Mask is friends with Kaoru's sister), so if she decides to let Kaoru get close to her it will not be a decision made out of ignorance. I mean, in that same chapter 249, she actually decides to wait for Kaoru on the train station after the latter missed their stop and when the return train opens the doors to reveal that Kaoru passed the time on the ride back by flirting with some random grill, Mask gets instantly pissed and storms off.

Well, it doesn't help that Mask has a very peculiar way of speaking, reminiscent of very old Asian literature and characters

In Japanese she even uses a female pronoun from the Edo period. It is one of the reasons for why Shizuka considers her to be a weirdo, lol.

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To cut to the chase, Bou-chan (the masked Mayoi Tokino) is as big a chuunibyou as Aiba Midori, but just carries it off better.

I like how the ships are resolving, so far.

Do any of them have names?

So...like tadano, before he came to his senses with that "Project L" thing?

Or Omoharu nakanaka....well,she is slowly loosing it.

Quantum kiss? https://youtu.be/Bbq6dBPG9n4

Tsuki-chan posted:

We updated the chapter a bit. Hope it's better now!

Oh! IT IS thank you! hmmm somehow I thought even the meme in the credits would change, I'm too greedy

Is today's mini chapter a joke by Chads or the real deal? I feel that it could be both.

And why is the text backwards in the speech balloon? Was the electron tunneling experiment supposed to cause specular inversion?

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The immaculate posted:

Imma be honest, I barely understood their conversation, but I guess some progress has been made?

Lol same… also when Kaoru says to Shizuka “I don’t know what to say” and Shizuka says “you’ve already said it” was Kaoru talking about Shizuka’s hair? And then Kaoru says “for sentimentality you’ll have to wait a bit longer”…. Wait for what?

Yeah lol I was totally confused

For how I saw it, what Shizuka meant is that Kaoru always said she liked her long hair, which means that she already knows how Kaoru feels about her haircut. For Kaoru's sentimantality, I think she means she will need some time to say a more honest (with herself) comment.
It is very obscure in japanese as well, we are trying to fix it too.

Ah ty ty… I thought I remembered Kaoru had a thing about Shizuka’s hair in the older chapters but I couldn’t find it… your explanation makes sense though… I always thought the language between Kaoru and Shizuoka had double meanings/a bit esoteric I’m just not on the same wave length to catch it haha…. Kaoru X Mask dialogue is almost on an entirely different level lol

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Kaoru commenting on her hair:
https://dynasty-scans.com/chapters/virgins_empire_ch198#6

H A U S posted:

Is today's mini chapter a joke by Chads or the real deal? I feel that it could be both.

And why is the text backwards in the speech balloon? Was the electron tunneling experiment supposed to cause specular inversion?

It's the real deal! the backward text was in the original too!

This chapter cracked me up something fierce. It's always more of a shock when a normally naturalistic comic has a surreal moment.

did i miss something it feels like mask totally changed how she regards kaoru out of no where

Wellll, she's always used an odd mixture of exaggerated, formalized and somewhat archaically phrased respect on one hand with rejection and scorn on the other. But the latter tends to mostly show up when Kaoru's coming on to her and/or seeming insincere. It's just that that's a lot of the time, so we don't often see how mask acts when Kaoru's not being a pain.

That credits page,why would you fix perfection

If I'm remembering right, most of the volume of any atom is empty space.

If it interests anyone, here is the thought process from a physics professor reading this.

The tunneling effect is a quantum mechanical effect whereby the probabilistic wavefunction of a subatomic particle (especially electrons) may pass through an intervening barrier

(nods) Good, good....

Theoretically, since the atoms of a human body are mostly electrons by volume

(blinks) Wait, that's not really-

it should be possible for a person to pass through a solid object.

UM

Based on these facts Yamada Kaoru will now conduct an unprecedented experiment to personally demonstrate the tunneling effect. If successful, Kaoru will slip through Tokino without any harm. If it is not, the two will become fused together.

Oh okay, it's just an excuse to Tuvix somebody.

If I'm remembering right, most of the volume of any atom is empty space.

it kind of depends, because electrons are weird, and become weirder when they're associated with an atom, and whether you can even consider them as having a "size" the way people are accustomed to thinking about the concept is dubious.

Particle physics is a trip and a half.

LOVE the joke page- at least the Chads know what's up xD

Mio's waiting to demonstrate passing a solid object. ( sharp pointy thing) thru a person ( Kaoru)

Tiran taran torin I'm lost.
Whatever this is referencing, I don't get it. I don't even get the credits page's joke. :/

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Kaoru commenting on her hair:
https://dynasty-scans.com/chapters/virgins_empire_ch198#6

thanks… wow… how could I forget such an iconic chapter… but I guess it has been almost three years… also wow can’t believe it’s been almost three years since Shizuka cut her hair lol…

Also wow can’t believe virgins’ empire is going on 13 years…

Kaoru, you doing alright? need a hug?

Ok folks, I have a theory about that cryptic chapter. It's just an idea, I'm not sure. I didn't see this theory on the posts but if there were already, sorry.
So, there is Shizuka's haircut as an element, but also the eating problem of Kaoru. Indeed, she seems to not eat enough : Shizuka tells her "are you eating well" and Kaoru answers "I'm eating fine...neither of us are the same as we were then". So that means for Shizuka that she had long hair and for Kaoru she was kinda anorexic (that's first step of my theory).
It is confirmed that Shizuka did change : she cut her hair and, what goes with it, she's dating Mio (which is implicit in the text). But, Kaoru faints twice, and I think it's because she didn't eat enough.
So, maybe (final step) that means she didn't change that much in the (not as she said and not as much as Shizuka did change).
Does it make sense ?

Even tho, I'm in the team of "Kaoru making progress" (very slowly), but that's not part of the point here.

Tiran taran torin I'm lost.
Whatever this is referencing, I don't get it. I don't even get the credits page's joke. :/

It's the sound of rain. Their shoulders got wet because the umbrella they were sharing wasn't big enough, but they didn't mind because it was such a romantic moment.

Kaoru she was kinda anorexic

Kaoru may or may not have an eating disorder, but the thing Shizuka is referring to is their first breakup back in middle school, when Kaoru stopped eating until Shizuka promised to stay friends. Basically, she's asking Kaoru if she's going to start shit now that they're through. See here: https://dynasty-scans.com/chapters/virgins_empire_ch61#6

Kaoru may or may not have an eating disorder, but the thing Shizuka is referring to is their first breakup back in middle school, when Kaoru stopped eating until Shizuka promised to stay friends. Basically, she's asking Kaoru if she's going to start shit now that they're through. See here: https://dynasty-scans.com/chapters/virgins_empire_ch61#6

Ho, yeah you're totally right, I forgot that. Still, the analogy between Shizuka/haircut and Kaoru/eating problem remains and 'did change' vs 'did not change'. So what to conclude ? That Kaoru is still ill of love ? But because of Mayoi ? OR because of Shizuka ? Both ? Someone (sorry can't remember who) in the comments talked about polyamor and I think I agree. She says she will not going sentimentally but she just go for it one minute after.

KaoMayoi fusion. How lovely!

Stannis posted:

Kaoru will never NOT come off creepy to me. She's just bad news all over and I wouldn't want her anywhere close to me.

It's going to be double counting with mg1342mg ? your nightmare is going to come true because the author of the manga has absolutely not the same objectives as you concerning kaoru and mask...**You behave like a nuisance on the forum...The author decides what will happen and your opinion is of no importance.**
This chapter is very melancholic and subtle but yes when kaoru asks mask if her emotions are changing towards her, mask seems to tell her yes, but that she goes through subtle messages to do it ....

The bolded is really toeing the line when it comes to the rules. You can voice your opinion without having to insult people.

Bishamon posted:

Who the fuck is this retard? Two commenters express their opinion on a character in the manga, he throws a hissy fit and launches a personal attack against them—and spouts all these kindergarten-level insults at them.

And I'm not 100% sure but I think this same user had done it before. I'm almost certain it's not the first time he goes on a war of personal attacks against other users, always because of a character he's obsessed with.

Is there an admin somewhere around? We could use some moderating here.

You can report posts you think need to be dealt with here. In addition, you need to be more careful not to break the rules yourself. Calling someone a retard (or otherwise outright insulting them) is against the rules.