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joined Mar 28, 2015

It was me, Dio!

joined Aug 27, 2013

The butler did it! Ok, the maid in this case...

joined Jun 25, 2019

We Conan now

joined Apr 2, 2018 This is basically me reading Downman Sayman

joined Jun 27, 2017

I feel like I kind of get it ... but if I try too hard to pin everything down my understanding undergoes some sort of gestaltzerfall.

Oh well. Guess I'll better distract myself with something else. Checking whether scientists have finally decided whether squirting is a thing, for example.

joined Mar 21, 2019 This is basically me reading Downman Sayman

That is all of us.

joined May 1, 2013

This is delightfully Ikuharaesque. Real big shame about the portrayal of the trans lady.

joined Nov 21, 2019

This is delightfully Ikuharaesque. Real big shame about the portrayal of the trans lady.

It's kind of weird too considering there's a more positive portrayal of a trans girl in one of Dowman Sayman's other manga, Nickelodeon.

joined Sep 16, 2014

At this point is very likely that the trans isn't really a trans but one of the 2 main girls.

joined Jun 12, 2019

I’m confusedddd but that one was the killer ok

joined Nov 15, 2019

I’m confusedddd but that one was the killer ok

ya didnt get it at all.

joined Apr 24, 2015

I’m confusedddd but that one was the killer ok

I'm more confused by you're English.

Everything is happening inside Ouka's head as her body heads towards death(or not since the story explicitly said the "Suicide Parabellum" won't kill the victim, so maybe just until brain death). In the mean time Chihaya is chasing her consciousness hoping to get her back.

However, for every level we enter, exists it's own Chihaya. We know that mafia Chihaya (ch. 1) is the lvl 8 Chihaya as Ouka welcomes her to lvl 9, where we meet school girl Chihaya. It's uncertain which lvl our (idol) Chihaya is from as we see the first Hooded Chihaya go "upstairs" after their encounter (ch. 3).

At some point we find that this 'game' has been going on a lot longer than we though (?) since some Chihaya's have been here so long they've lost their minds, either jumping through lvls or simply spending time on certain lvls. We also learn that the deeper we go the slower time passes by comparison to the last world all the way up to reality.

Every time the world is about to end, 'Ouka' kills her current self to stall for more time as her consciousness can continue to survive, similair to Zeno's Dichotomy paradox where she come infinitesimally close to the end. It's likely that due to this, Chihaya's from the lower levels may have lived for hundreds if not thousands of years going up and down Ouka's consciousness.

Example. In the time that out Idol Chihaya saw Ouka kill herself, to the time where she jumped in, although only seconds have passed for her, days have passed on the other side of the hole, where another hole may have opened. Eventually translating to an near infinite amount of Chihaya's suddenly existing, each exponentially older than the last.

Back to the mansion, essentially two factions meet. Jaded Chihaya's that climbed up from the depths who have lived long enough to understand the truth of the world they exist in, and hopefull Chiyaha's who are still looking to save Ouka. The jaded Chihaya's know that if Ouka is saved then infinite worlds will be destroyed so they stop the young Chihaya's from saving Ouka and bringing her back to reality which will end this entire dream. So they kill the young Chihaya's.

The three then kill themselves simply because they want out, their tired, they've been at least from their point of view, saving the multiverse for the last god know's how long. They see that out (idol) Chihaya understand the situation and decided to leave it in her hands, which proves to be the right decision? (ch. 9 last page)

Lastly, it's likely that the Ouka we see is only part of her if we follow the old id, ego, superego model of the human physche.

joined Feb 8, 2013

People should study this manga at school)))))))))))))))))0

at physics, math, literature, ethics, japanese and fencing, lol))

joined Aug 19, 2018

So now our Chihaya is just gonna keep killing all the other Chihayas? Until when though? Also, I wonder is the crazy killer Chihaya still out there? If so, did she have the same idea of killing all tje other Chihaya's but at some point, bexame insane and decided to kill Ouka as well? I wish I had big brain now

joined Oct 10, 2018

This is so bizarre, I just love it!

joined Jul 21, 2017


joined Aug 2, 2015

It's like I understand it and yet kinda don't at the same time and it's doing some sort of mindblown magic on me.

joined Jan 20, 2014

The end... It's just... Too sad T_T

joined Sep 8, 2019

Well she got what she always wanted

joined Oct 15, 2014

That was very... Dowman Sayman.

joined Feb 25, 2013

Bad End. (?)

joined Mar 21, 2019

Fuck, that hurt.

joined Sep 16, 2014

That was indeed superb, time to re-read the whole thing, now with context.

joined Nov 15, 2019

man this was a trip, a long one, many thank sayman

joined Apr 6, 2013

I found that ending to be kinda hilarious

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