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joined Jan 14, 2020

That said, Islamic caliphs or Ottoman emperors often did have large harems -- as did powerful kings of many other cultures, including Imperial China or many Hindu kings.

Couple_under_the_stars
joined Nov 7, 2022

You should probably know this "Islamic harem" term you keep throwing around is a bigoted myth, fyi

Bullshit, it does happen semi-frequently. And the reason why it doesn't happen often is that men consider it too difficult to support multiple wives, so only old rich dudes living comfortably can afford to. Ironically, people in one of the most sexist culture in the world are more aware of the harmfulness of unequal relationships than people defending harem plots.

The rest of the comment is literally suggesting that women living under Sharia law want to be part of a polygynous household and their position lower than men in the hierarchy, I don't know if you're making shit up to defend your position or intentionally trolling. Or maybe just think that being one step lower than your partner is fine and they should be content of it.

Nowadays, Saudi women who had a chance to get an education usually make a career for themselves, either in the country or abroad, as there is now a broad enough part of the population (especially among the younger generation) with sufficient awareness to support that. But it's still far from a land of equal opportunity, both in career and in marriage.

Ricowow
joined Dec 23, 2020

I just want to know if the series is still being worked on...I haven't seen any updates in a while.

joined Feb 2, 2023

Thank you so much for the update !!! <3

joined Jun 3, 2020

So glad this wasn't dragged on more than necessary. I was afraid it would go the annoying route of keeping Diana from talking with Natori so she would remain a pawn for the villain, but nope. They talk things through at first opportunity.

Now it's a matter of preventing Lapis from reverting back to her villainous ways to separate Diana and Natori.

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Bard_smol
joined Jun 12, 2021

"Wait, so you mean telling people I am a prophet and doing things to change how people behave is CHANGING THE PLOT?! How could that be?!"

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joined Jul 13, 2015

We reach the point that mention the other girl name is almost explosive

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joined Oct 20, 2017

When Rubeus claims Diana wants to marry Natori, isn't that basically a confirmation that same-sex marriage is possible in this kingdom? I don't think it has been mentioned before. If that information was in the game too, it's even funnier that Natori still hasn't figured out that she is in a love triangle with two girls.

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joined Mar 8, 2022

Diana is still going to be the villainess in this timeline isn't she?

Dark_Tzitzimine
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joined Dec 18, 2013

I look forward to Rubeus' little schemes spectacularly blowing up on his face.

Diana is still going to be the villainess in this timeline isn't she?

Is very likely, especially if her desire to help Natori ends up friend-zoning herself and pushing Lapis and Natori closer.

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joined Apr 15, 2013

Lapis is super savvy about manipulating people. It would be kind of bad writing for her not to see through Rubeus pretty much immediately. I get that jealousy is a powerful force but it feels like she is smart enough not to get dragged down by it. Then again, her whole plan is basically a pointless self sacrifice so maybe I am giving her too much credit.

Kiarabg
joined Sep 6, 2018

Ohhhohoho, it’s gotten so chewy, everybody’s collapsing together and conflicting in the most interesting ways. God, this is so satisfying. I need to go back and study and contrast the tearful outburst panels between Lapis and Diana, there’s so much there!!!

I can’t believe it’s still getting better, and the pacing is so tight! Nothing overstays its welcome!

God this manga is good.

Yuibless
joined Jan 30, 2017

This manga deserves far more recognition, it's a masterpiece. Really hoping it gets an adaptation someday.

joined Aug 11, 2022

Technically once again...Lapis original plan is to be a sacrifice (Scapegoat) to boost the prince's reputation and have Diana appear as a hero for the commoners so Commoners and Nobles will never long fight/civil war risk while killing off the crazy radical commoners...I don't consider Lapis' plan to be that pointless...but yes her plan is somewhat stupid and suicidal very much yes [Could have pin the blame on some corrupted noble]...If Lapis or some other smart character was in IRL...They would be smarter than 60% of the world population lol.

Diana...Please do not sacrifice yourself either...MC said she wants a world with no has to be a villain XD

On the poly-relationship possibility topic...it depends on the people involved and other factors like power structure/dynamics but as long as everyone consents to it without there being a very clear control in the relationship due to power/financial status then it mostly fine. It just takes more effort, emotions and time to make it work with clear communications....Though the chance of these 3 having a poly-relationship is...Well it depends on the author's plan and how their characters will developed, I won't say there is 0% percent chance but it will probably be very hard to do lol.

Ykn1
joined Dec 20, 2018

Ally acquired, nice!

I read too much yuri
joined Feb 18, 2023

As always, this update is delicious

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joined Apr 10, 2023

Lapis is super savvy about manipulating people. It would be kind of bad writing for her not to see through Rubeus pretty much immediately. I get that jealousy is a powerful force but it feels like she is smart enough not to get dragged down by it. Then again, her whole plan is basically a pointless self sacrifice so maybe I am giving her too much credit.

I agree, especially since he directly insulted not just Diana but also Natalie. She might be possessive/competitive with Diana but she's absolutely not gonna act based on that goober's influence lol. I think that scene was mostly to show us Rubeus is still acting against the two of them and will have future backhanded schemes in store.

Peachbrowsette2
joined Apr 14, 2023

"I'll be sure to keep this conversation in mind." As soon as I read that my mind was already playing Doom music in the background. Hehe

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Dark_Tzitzimine
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joined Dec 18, 2013

Technically once again...Lapis original plan is to be a sacrifice (Scapegoat) to boost the prince's reputation and have Diana appear as a hero for the commoners so Commoners and Nobles will never long fight/civil war risk while killing off the crazy radical commoners...I don't consider Lapis' plan to be that pointless...but yes her plan is somewhat stupid and suicidal very much yes [Could have pin the blame on some corrupted noble]...If Lapis or some other smart character was in IRL...They would be smarter than 60% of the world population lol.

Lapis' original plan didn't count with her sacrifice nor was meant to boost the Prince and Diana's reputation, it was straight up just eliminating all commoners, she died because she was the villain of the story and that was how the story was written.

Chibi2
joined Jul 23, 2015

I am looking forward to the next updatesss

joined Jan 3, 2020

I was surprised to see how MangaDex's comments section is absolutely dominated for calls for this to have a poly ending. Some of the calls for that have almost 100 upvotes, which is pretty wild.

It made me really curious what separates this manga from others with love triangles where you don't see that type of behavior in the comments. I think it's probably because the least likely corner of the triangle (Diana, the one not in the title) is so hard to dislike. She's earnest, straightforward, and fairly relatable (a teen girl having a very obvious crush on another girl who is oblivious). Since you can't see an obvious "Natori + Diana" only outcome, Diana fans hope for poly, I guess?

Typically, most love triangles I read are manhwa with much higher stakes and where most of the characters are very manipulative. The comments on those stories are generally like "X is a bitch and should die". Nobody is calling for a poly ending there, lol.

Anyway, when you get down to analyzing things, Natori hasn't shown any romantic or sexual interest in any character. I wouldn't even be surprised if she was ace. Obviously, the OTP is Lapis + Diana. Let's go!

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joined Sep 10, 2022

Anyway, when you get down to analyzing things, Natori hasn't shown any romantic or sexual interest in any character. I wouldn't even be surprised if she was ace.

She's definitely shown those interests towards Lapis, but I agree with everything else you said.

Rsz_1230979
joined Sep 1, 2021

Team poly let's goooo

Internet_lied
joined Jul 15, 2016

When Rubeus claims Diana wants to marry Natori, isn't that basically a confirmation that same-sex marriage is possible in this kingdom? I don't think it has been mentioned before. If that information was in the game too, it's even funnier that Natori still hasn't figured out that she is in a love triangle with two girls.

I wouldn't put a lot of stock into that interpretation, as he had also described Natori as a "summoned beast". Legally, she appears to not even qualify as a human, so I don't think her gender and sex are even relevant to her marriage prospects. My guess is that Rubeus was using the term "marriage" in a general sense, not the legal kind, and he chose that word specifically to rouse Lapis' jealousy.

Lapis is super savvy about manipulating people. It would be kind of bad writing for her not to see through Rubeus pretty much immediately. I get that jealousy is a powerful force but it feels like she is smart enough not to get dragged down by it. Then again, her whole plan is basically a pointless self sacrifice so maybe I am giving her too much credit.

Oh, I am pretty sure Lapis has figured out what Rubeus was trying to achieve from the word go. She has never trusted anyone except Natori, and even if her trust in the latter is undermined by jealousy, I do not expect her to start trusting Rubeus instead, all of a sudden.

joined Aug 11, 2022

Technically once again...Lapis original plan is to be a sacrifice (Scapegoat) to boost the prince's reputation and have Diana appear as a hero for the commoners so Commoners and Nobles will never long fight/civil war risk while killing off the crazy radical commoners...I don't consider Lapis' plan to be that pointless...but yes her plan is somewhat stupid and suicidal very much yes [Could have pin the blame on some corrupted noble]...If Lapis or some other smart character was in IRL...They would be smarter than 60% of the world population lol.

Lapis' original plan didn't count with her sacrifice nor was meant to boost the Prince and Diana's reputation, it was straight up just eliminating all commoners, she died because she was the villain of the story and that was how the story was written.

Honestly sure Lapis plan was solely focus on killing all the commoners involved in her Adopted sister's death but that did not mean she not willing to die at the end after she got her revenge. She is a smart girl that fooled the Gamers/Fan-based who played the otome game into thinking she is a totally nice person (Chapter 1- Stealing magic jewel for magic booster).

She could easily just adjust her plans to let herself be killed to boost the (Her Fiancee) Prince's reputation and Diana's reputation. Kill off all the commoners from the Anti-Noble fraction that she saw responsible for her little sis' death [Any innocent bystanders are acceptable casualties though to her lol... (Lapis' trauma from chapter 2 and other chapters)] then Lapis can be satisfied dying either way...because if Lapis want to survive she could have flee to another country and be a thorn to the Prince and Diana easily with her influence and power.

Chapter 8 (Lapis teaches prince that he is the player and not the chess-up...Queen piece dropped as she talk about the bigger picture, Lapis tells prince there is no way to preserve all the pieces and even refers that she is a chess piece too...).

Since she probably achieved her goal then she was ready to set things up to so her death is at least beneficial to the Prince and the future of the kingdom...she would have sacrificed her family, the prince and Diana if she didn't achieved her goal of killing all the [Anti-noble member (Low rank nobles are helping them due to greed for more power which can cause civil war)] but since she got her goal finished in the original timeline then she doesn't have to go that far for her [REVENGE].

I won't deny Lapis want to kill all the commoner [Mainly from the Anti-noble fraction (Any innocent people dying are probably acceptable to her though since she will rationalized it as the Bigger picture idea thing)] but she cares about the prince, Diana and her family to a small extent...not enough to not kill them for her plans for [REVENGE] but enough to not cause trouble for them in the future...The MC here on the other hand...Lapis cannot sacrifice the MC for [REVENGE] due to being to involved/care about MC too much. Lapis tried her best to keep herself emotional distance while making sure MC's life will be comfortable and somewhat happy but failed lol

MC and the gamers seem to not know much about Lapis' backstory (MC does not know about the little sister except Lapis throw away line about having a commoner sister) and the reasons why she want [REVENGE].

You can call my idea and analysis of Lapis' character stupid and wrong, saying her wanting to kill the commoners is not deep and that is just the way she is written in the game but eh whatever, Agree to disagree XD

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