wow

Well, that was quick and to the point. Literally.

For once it's actually a masochist girl, not just "passive sexually" or "turned on by dominant partners."

She's actually a submissive, not a masochist though (as far as we know)

Do we have other stuff from this author?

Just as she was about to go over the edge... ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

For once it's actually a masochist girl, not just "passive sexually" or "turned on by dominant partners."

She's actually a submissive, not a masochist though (as far as we know)

As far as not reading the title goes? Aha
Unless there's a mistake in a title somehow, but that's out of my hands

For once it's actually a masochist girl, not just "passive sexually" or "turned on by dominant partners."

She's actually a submissive, not a masochist though (as far as we know)

I think the implication is that she enjoys the objectification and humiliation (not to mention social risk) of the situation. That would definitely make her a masochist.

Huh...?

Okay.

I have just must read this after seeing such thread title

Clicked like 3 times before realizing :(

The ending is unfulfilling....

The ending is unfulfilling....

Agreed, but I'd say it's lacking a proper climax.

Cool design, such an abrupt,well that's not even an ending. But the drawing is nice.

i dont like hentai stuff and didnt read the tags.

But i loved the last page where the girl is actually holding her hand there.

SyxThree posted:

For once it's actually a masochist girl, not just "passive sexually" or "turned on by dominant partners."

She's actually a submissive, not a masochist though (as far as we know)

I think the implication is that she enjoys the objectification and humiliation (not to mention social risk) of the situation. That would definitely make her a masochist.

One thing I noticed is that in Japan they use the term Masochist or just M as an ombrella term, while masochism has a specific meaning (the practice of seeking pain because it is pleasurable) that is different from sexual submissive (a sexual participant who willingly gives up some or all control to a dominant partner). There may be overlap, but our protagonist is definitely a sub and for what we have seen till now we don't really know if she's a masochist, I just don't trust the title of the manga.

SyxThree posted:

For once it's actually a masochist girl, not just "passive sexually" or "turned on by dominant partners."

She's actually a submissive, not a masochist though (as far as we know)

I think the implication is that she enjoys the objectification and humiliation (not to mention social risk) of the situation. That would definitely make her a masochist.

One thing I noticed is that in Japan they use the term Masochist or just M as an ombrella term, while masochism has a specific meaning (the practice of seeking pain because it is pleasurable) that is different from sexual submissive (a sexual participant who willingly gives up some or all control to a dominant partner). There may be overlap, but our protagonist is definitely a sub and for what we have seen till now we don't really know if she's a masochist, I just don't trust the title of the manga.

Yeah, there's a reason BDSM is an umbrella term for B&D, D/s, and SM. D/s contains submission and SM contains masochism.

Given that humiliation tends to be about ego-reduction and making someone 'smaller' mentally, allowing them to be more easily controlled, yeah, i'd say she's submissive to a heavy degree, and not really a masochist.

Full context: B&D is Bondage and Discipline. That's the restraints, the punishment for enforcement, the physicality of kink. D/s is Dominance/submission. That's the power exchange, obeying and ordering, the mental aspects. SM is Sadism and Masochism. That's the pure pain aspects of it. Some people are sensation junkies in that way, given how it can cause endorphin highs.

People into kink have various balances of all 3 aspects; personally, my D/s side was heavily abused to the point of it being almost non-existent, and so i'm mainly a B&D'er now.

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I'm in this manga and I don't like it.

How incredibly ironic considering it's about an exhibitionist. :P

Given that humiliation tends to be about ego-reduction and making someone 'smaller' mentally, allowing them to be more easily controlled, yeah, i'd say she's submissive to a heavy degree, and not really a masochist.

Just because she isn't literally indulging in some kind of "painful" play in the chapter doesn't mean she's not a masochist.
The title+context make it clear that regardless of whether the chapter explicitly enacts it or not she's intended to be a masochist, and that's all the confirmation/evidence that's required unless something which actively contradicts that claim takes place to bring it into question.

Absence of explicit confirmation does not equal confirmation of the claim being wrong.

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This artist only does super masochist lesbians and it’s still not enough.

will it ever be enough?

Just because she isn't literally indulging in some kind of "painful" play in the chapter doesn't mean she's not a masochist.
The title+context make it clear that regardless of whether the chapter explicitly enacts it or not she's intended to be a masochist, and that's all the confirmation/evidence that's required unless something which actively contradicts that claim takes place to bring it into question.

Absence of explicit confirmation does not equal confirmation of the claim being wrong.

Tsuki is right though; whereas in the west the catch-all term is "submissive" despite it having specific connotations, in Japan the catch-all is masochist, or M.

...I don't even know what to say. :(

Did the author run out of ideas for a decent ending? Or preferred to take a vacation in Tambaba*?

[*An official nudist beach in Brazil, located on the Atlantic coast 20 km (12 mi) south of João Pessoa and 115 km (71 mi) north of Recife. In Tambaba, one must be nude in the family area (the main part of the beach). Around the periphery of the beach, nudism is optional.] < From Wikipedia

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Tsuki is right though; whereas in the west the catch-all term is "submissive" despite it having specific connotations, in Japan the catch-all is masochist, or M.

I wasn't arguing otherwise, merely against the assessment that the character is not a masochist because she didn't explicitly get off on physical pain in the chapter or because "masochist" is often used "incorrectly" in japan.

One could make the case that humiliation and submission inflict forms of emotional "pain" and therefor that enjoying them is "enjoying pain" in a sense, making the terms "Submissive" and "Masochist" parasynonyms in both cultures. While not technically synonyms, it's not strictly inaccurate to use them interchangeably.

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Pyoro posted:

The ending is unfulfilling....

Agreed, but I'd say it's lacking a proper climax.

By climax you mean climax or climax?

Ahh binbou classic binbou

I can't read this with a straight face. I keep laughing.

Glad I'm not the only one with this reaction lol, not to kinkshame others or anything