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I just realized this is probably how some rich old men end up dating 20 year old golden diggers.

I wonder if we'll get any development around Noa getting other clients too. Or the dark side of being a prostitute.

last edited at Jul 12, 2021 2:15PM

MacySan
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Oh no, I was hoping for a kiss because it's annoying to wait another month again. I just want to read all chapters in one.

Regardless, I was torn between feeling cringed by how fast they solved Kurokawa's years of inferiority complex issues and that Fujishiro was able to do that just by calling her beautifu and how Kurokawa made a 180 degree turn from the past chapters. But at the same time I liked their interaction/chemistry and it was an emotional scene too.

Where's my goddamn kiss?!?

Here.

I really hope this isn't the one and only kiss we get see of them before the manga is over.
I also kinda want an intense scene between them too, not just showing the results and then them interacting with their friends (or a time skip)

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Interesting start. It reminded me of "My lesbian experience with loneliness". Translator should keep working on it...!

As for speculation, I don't think she will end up being a co worker. I don't see why the author would have the theme of lesbian prostitute in the title, only to revoke it next chapter and be like "huh, turns out she wasn't actually a prostitute". It will just end up being like a simple OL story and it will lose the theme it is supposed to be developing around. But who knows.

last edited at Jul 8, 2021 10:11AM

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I'm not bothered by the slow development, I'm more bothered that we'll have to wait years to see it. Also kinda worried they won't end up together or the pay off won't be that worth it.

Anyway, asking for them to show they're sleeping together and do that stuff is just out of character for this story. The point is, they are indeed friends who just happened to say yolo and get married. The marriage essentially doesn't mean anything.
I'd like to start seeing some hints though. When Da-Chan said to Ruriko "but are you happy with that" before getting interrupted, it felt like she implied Ruriko has talked with her about having romantic feelings and she just goes along with this marriage because it is the closest she can get.

last edited at Jul 5, 2021 2:22PM

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Fun fact (not sure if this has been mentioned in the thread again) but Laplace and Maxwell are the names of two of the most important equation sets for Electrodynamics.
Every time I see someone talking about them, I except to see math next rather than talking about a story lol.
Author needs to make a set of antagonists called Tesla and Edison too.

Also the bikini armor is so true in the rpg games. I was playing and couldn't find any outfit that isn't boobs ridiculously hanging out, while for males there were nice options that resembled an actual fight.

last edited at Jun 30, 2021 1:44AM

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LMAOOO I burst out laughing at that "these two ladies seem like good friends"
It's literally the meme

MacySan
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This chapter was as if it's been so long that the author forgot their own story.
We had a major conflict a couple of chapters ago, something that felt similar to Chikane raping Himeko in their other reincarnation.
And now they just hang out like nothing has happened? I kept wondering if this was some flashback from before the incident, because it doesn't make sense to the flow of the story at all.

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Good chapter. It was nice to see Satou not rejecting Fuuka immediately, because the trope of love antagonist coming but mc rejecting them only to reinforce their love for main love interest, is overused and boring.
Fuuka was a likeable character and I'd feel sorry for her if she was discarded from the story like that.
Also Hinako knows but pretends not to.

MacySan
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She removed her mask...
Now they both got corona lol

Also pretty sure when they kissed, the short senpai shouldn't be reaching taller senpai even being on her tiptoes. It's one head difference, but they're shown to have at least two head difference in the previous page.

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An artificial and irrelevant distinction imposed by Western publishers for marketing-related reasons

Wait, do you mean to tell me we were on a Japanese forum all this time?. Great, I always wanted to learn Japanese but it turns out I was speaking it all along.

And even putting that aside your interpretation of what constitutes "yuri" and why this series isn't, like, really is absurdly narrow and selective.

I thought it is so obvious this story belongs to the Yuri category that someone taking my comment of "lack of Yuri between the two mains" as literally me saying they're just friends with maybe a hint of romance, would be retarded.
Then I explained how their interactions just weren't enough for me personally. Next time I'll ask you what preference I should have to make sure it's not narrow and selective.

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Pretty sure everyone knows that making a comment represents the person's personal opinion about a story, and not an objective truth.

This sure seems like some very hasty backpedaling from your earlier sweeping claims concerning terminology and its applicability...

Because a widely used term for over 30 years among Western fans is the same as stating your preference for a story. If you lack the skills to differentiate between these two, that's not my fault.

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Well if you're going to go by usage depending on frame of reference - this site is none of those sites and doesn't even have a separate shoujo-ai tag. "When in Rome..."
So deal.

And if you're not seeing "romantic or sexual interaction between two females" in this series it sounds like your definition- and interpretation-related communication barriers extend well beyond the "yuri" thing, just sayin'.

I didn't say there isn't at all. I said there is not enough for my taste, because the battles are boring. Pretty sure everyone knows that making a comment represents the person's personal opinion about a story, and not an objective truth.

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Maybe you didn't get the way I mean "Yuri".

Yeah that tends to happen when you use nonstandard definitions without explaining them.

How is yuri nonstandard? Yuri literally means sexual stuff between two females and they even have the term shujo-Ai to distinct between stories with only the romance.
Simply having gay characters doesn't make something yuri, you know.

sigh Yuri is a general term in Japan to describe any type of relation between 2 girls being sexual or simply a crush, as long as it's the main focus of the story. Shojo-ai is a term used by Western publishers to make a difference between the two things i mentionned because they don't wanted to have a single term for everything. As for what Shojo-ai mean in japanese well, it's just a synonym of Lolicon

Yeah, I know the "history" of the usage of the word. The thing is, it is generally used like I described among the fans. If you go to sites that stream anime, they have two different categories for Yuri and shoujo Ai, and they mean exactly that. Yuri can also mean the romance between two females because romance comes hand in hand with sexually explicit stuff.
You posted a pasted defunition but if you google "what is the difference between yuri and shoujo-Ai" the first thing that comes up is literally what I said.

It is not wrong to use yuri in the way I stated because this is how many fans use it, despite its origins. Plus even if we took the word yuri like you say, my original point still stands because yuri literally needs some type of romantic or sexual interaction between two females. And the person who replied to me first was like, because there are so many lesbians in this manga the story is Yuri. Which I said the sexual orientation of the characters alone doesn't mean there will be "yuri moments" in it as well.

I think anyone can understand what I mean if they want to, you're just nitpicking the definitions and history.

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Maybe you didn't get the way I mean "Yuri".

Yeah that tends to happen when you use nonstandard definitions without explaining them.

How is yuri nonstandard? Yuri literally means sexual stuff between two females and they even have the term shujo-Ai to distinct between stories with only the romance.
Simply having gay characters doesn't make something yuri, you know.

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Plus we are already at chapter 20 and the yuri is very minimum. It's like trying to fill a glass of water from a sink that's only dripping one drop every hour.

They said, about a manga where every single character is a lesbian and we literally have a science baby and a final form powered by pure gayness. What the heck?

Maybe you didn't get the way I mean "Yuri". There is no kissing, no dating, very minimum romance and mostly fights. And the fights kinda feel meaningless because it's just X randomly popping up and try to blow things. There is no plan in her actions or strategy, so I can't care enough about the fights to compensate for the lack of fanservice.
What I would classify as yuri moments was in the first chapters were Honey san was drooling over Hayate and there was some kind of tension.

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Do I get a virus if I respond to this?

I'm not sure I understand the reference, but I don't think so...

Because there often are bots in this site that write similar comments in the forums. I was joking :P

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hi hi

I created an account just to say this, but: Have you ever heard people shouting at the top of their lungs in a stairwell? I have. There aren't even any fire doors separating the stairwell from the hallways. Half the building now knows intimate details about their relationships.

(Of course, there are other things I could say too, but they've already been said.)

Do I get a virus if I respond to this?

I think it's pretty common knowledge that you shouldn't yell inside a building. In fact, due to echo from the walls and the very close distance between them, the sound will probably travel into even higher levels than it would if you were simply yelling outdoors.

MacySan
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Having Fujishiro realize that the object of her affections is a mentally ill yandere and start a relationship with her anyway because she wants it so bad, and having Kurokawa agree to enter a relationship with somebody even with her coconut all jumbled up, with Miki shooting everybody black looks in the background, would really piss off about half the commenters here. I, at least, would be entertained.

Yeah I agree most people here would be pissed, but that's because Kurojawa wasn't portrayed as this person who would do harm to Nanaki for the very majority of the story. There were a couple of mentions of her inferiority complex, but this still didn't mean she would ever act act out like that.
Other mangas make it clear from the beginning what they're about. This one didn't sell itself as angst/depression but more like slice of life and drama, so it just leaves a sore taste to the reader and being disappointed at Kurokawa.
Plus it seems like an attempt from the author to extend the story a bit more because they have ran out of ideas.

Kurokawa was this person readers were rooting for, and then does a 180 degree turn.

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Honestly I was about to stop reading this manga if, like it seemed, there wasn't any confession. It would be forced drama from the author, since we had Honey drooling over Hayate all throughout the story and when she was about to confess she suddenly changed her mind. Like haven't you thought about these doubts before?
Plus we are already at chapter 20 and the yuri is very minimum. It's like trying to fill a glass of water from a sink that's only dripping one drop every hour.
I think there's gonna be a kiss in the end of the manga and that will be it. For some reason I don't think they'll start acting different now that they confessed. It's gonna be something like Citrus.

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If this was real life this relationship would be doomed from the start. You don't let go of an inferiority complex that bad that quickly. Even if she's willing to be with Fujishiro her low self esteem would seep into her decisions and thoughts. She'd delegate all decision making to Nanaki thinking her ideas are bad or if Nanaki is upset for whatever reason Kurokawa would blow it out of proportion and think she doesn't want to be with her anymore.

They should just stay friends and we can get our yuri fix from Izumi and Iroha lol.

+1. But we just need to read the manga (and many mangas in general) with suspension of disbelief. Maybe just forget about the past 2-3 chapters and focus on the ending.
But yeah if that was real life their relationship would end up really toxic, especially if they had strong feelings for each other.
But you know, it's the classic trope that appears in every romance, whether yuri or not. Everything gets fixed by the power of love.
In reality, sometimes love makes it worse and some people are better of being with someone they are not very in love with.

MacySan
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Ok I'm annoyed it had to end at that point and now we have to wait a whole another month....

Conflict seems to have been resolved easily, but what can you do? Apparently this isn't meant to be a deep introspective manga about behavioral patterns. I actually agreed with what Miki said, and I felt like it would be a good ending too if Nanaki just remained a "princess" rather than changing because of someone who then doesn't treat her good.
I'm glad Kurokawa at least has snapped out if it. Wonder if they will make up fast now, or we'll have a period of adjusting. Probably the first.

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I’m sorry but the feet had me so distracted here
https://dynasty-scans.com/chapters/its_a_detached_relationship_ch19#14

I mean ????? Why is it so long????

Lmaooo I noticed that too. They're like seal fins...Artist was probably too tired to realize they made a mistake

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I like it. Aya and Sei'selfishness is the reason why their chemistry is in sync. People here love to project their own set of standards in a relationship too much. Their realtionship is not healthy? That's the point. It was never healthy to begin with.

True. I think people want it to be more all cotton candy and bubble gum. Toxic relationships in yuri isn't welcome because people like to brought their own beliefs and sometimes self-insert. Their relationship for me is kind of intoxicating, it's bad but it makes you feel all sorts of emotion

(Also, Aya isn't a child anymore yet they still treat Sei and ped)

I don't self insert myself into manga. I'm not projecting my standards on the manga, I'm stating my own personal opinion, and I'm not saying the author should do anything different. I'm also not saying people shouldn't enjoy the manga.

I also know the point of the manga is that the characters are toxic and the relationship isn't healthy. I'm very aware of that. I'm still here reading it to see where it ends up. I shouldn't have to defend myself for saying I don't like how the author romanticizes selfishness. I can read and find a story interesting, while still holding that opinion.

Edit: I also don't want everything to be "cotton candy and bubble bum", I can read and enjoy works like that and works like this for different reasons. I never said I hated this manga, if I did I would have stopped reading pretty quickly. Again I find the work interesting, I'm just not personally a fan of the romanticized selfishness here. It's not a black and white thing of love it or hate it, I can have a nuanced opinion and I try my best to do so.

It's like you can only have one opinion of the story to read it, otherwise you are a judgemental westerner. I don't know why people are so defensive over someone else's opinion for fictional characters. Fictional characters.

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My interpretation is she decided to be the villain everyone thought her to be simply because doing "what's right" only led to her misery. I always read her as a character creating chaos as a way of welcoming her own despair but that's just me.

Even though that is true, Sei has displayed this type of behavior for her own selfish reasons too, not just as a defense mechanism.
When Yoru rejected her, Sei tried to mess her up. She had that character/tendency even back then and it seems like it was a matter of time until that started blossoming.

As for Mochida, yes she did want to mess Sei because of the teacher, but her reaction of being irked by the teacher not caring about what Sei was doing made me think she also had some moral issue with the situation.

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I think the Sakai issue was cleared up last chapter? As in it showed that nothing really happened between Sakai and Sei. Sakai offered but Sei rejected her.

No, I meant the Mochida situation.
https://dynasty-scans.com/chapters/its_a_detached_relationship_ch13#26
https://dynasty-scans.com/chapters/its_a_detached_relationship_ch17#20

Plus saying that she got excited even more from Aya being a highschooler on that dating app just says something about her.

It's weird how people forget so fast when a happy chapter shows up. Obviously this is a story and everyone can like whatever character, but let's not pretend Sei is a good person. Yes Mochida wasn't 100% an angel here either, but I think her actions were justified, seeing how a teacher was going out with school girls. On the other hand, Sei just messes with people for her own enjoynment. And also two wrongs don't make a good, like Mochida being wrong in some way doesn't change Sei's situation.