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joined May 28, 2021

I still predict a happy home with aprons and science babies.

Chidori comes home in a suit, finds Nanoha in a naked apron, both melt into gay puddles. The End.

It's not that far from Nanoha's dream future that we saw a few chapters back ;) Add in a few science babies and you're there.

Tron-legacy
joined Dec 11, 2017

"My romantic partner isn't a good reason to choose a school so I'll go to school somewhere else if it's a better school"

Unless every confectionary school in Tokyo is hot garbage, choosing a slightly better school elsewhere just because it's slightly better when you have a REALLY good reason to want to study in Tokyo would be nothing short of moronic.

It's not like you're trying to get on Kitchen Nightmares with Gordon Ramsey, any decent confectionary school is totally fine and throwing your relationship away just for a slightly better school that won't really make any meaningful difference in the end would be PEAK useless lesbian, fookin' hell. I would actually quit this story if it goes in that direction, because that's exactly the cheap forced-in drama I hate in storytelling.

I stayed at my college to remain close to somebody I was in a relationship, and we broke up two years in, and my school wasn't BAD and my education wasn't terrible, but I settled, and now I get to regret that forever. So sorry, but you're completely wrong.

You should go where you want to go, not wrap your life around being geographically close to a romantic partner. If you're a seriously good fit, you'll make long distance work.

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joined Jul 29, 2017

"My romantic partner isn't a good reason to choose a school so I'll go to school somewhere else if it's a better school"

Unless every confectionary school in Tokyo is hot garbage, choosing a slightly better school elsewhere just because it's slightly better when you have a REALLY good reason to want to study in Tokyo would be nothing short of moronic.

It's not like you're trying to get on Kitchen Nightmares with Gordon Ramsey, any decent confectionary school is totally fine and throwing your relationship away just for a slightly better school that won't really make any meaningful difference in the end would be PEAK useless lesbian, fookin' hell. I would actually quit this story if it goes in that direction, because that's exactly the cheap forced-in drama I hate in storytelling.

I stayed at my college to remain close to somebody I was in a relationship, and we broke up two years in, and my school wasn't BAD and my education wasn't terrible, but I settled, and now I get to regret that forever. So sorry, but you're completely wrong.

You should go where you want to go, not wrap your life around being geographically close to a romantic partner. If you're a seriously good fit, you'll make long distance work.

Well, yes. Most youthful romances don’t last whatever the circumstances. I wouldn’t expect this series to track with real-life experience, though—most romance manga don’t.

Specifically, the “where to go after graduation” issue is a stock trope of high school romances, yuri or otherwise. Off the top of my head, I can recall ones where the MCs move together and all is well. Others where they go their separate ways, then time skip, then all is well. In some long-runners, they may move together and then, “things get complicated,” and maybe they don’t end up together.

In the latter case, though, my impression is that only happens in series with big casts and well-established potential love triangles prior to the graduation. What even would be the point of a fluffy, mostly SOL series crashing head-on into a wall of verisimilitude?

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joined Mar 4, 2018

The heart wants what the heart wants, but never live your life for someone else. Youthful relationships will be a distant memory, and of zero import, thirty years from now when you measure the balance of your days.

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joined Jan 14, 2020

Sometimes. Some people really do marry their high school sweethearts.

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Sleepyfrogwaifutiny
joined Sep 25, 2019

I stayed at my college to remain close to somebody I was in a relationship, and we broke up two years in, and my school wasn't BAD and my education wasn't terrible, but I settled, and now I get to regret that forever. So sorry, but you're completely wrong.

You should go where you want to go, not wrap your life around being geographically close to a romantic partner. If you're a seriously good fit, you'll make long distance work.

Your just projecting your own situation onto a fictional situation that's similar to yours but different.

Nanoha wants to study in Tokyo and potentially cohabit with Chidori.
There's no way there aren't any school available in Tokyo for her to apply to.
There's no way there aren't any schools that are good enough to study at in Tokyo for her to apply to.

She has the will to study in Tokyo, the means to study in Tokyo and schools are definitely available in Tokyo.

This is a no-brainer non-issue, there are no obstacles to them cohabiting while studying in Tokyo what so ever besides sheer stupidity or hubris. Every "reason" introduced for her to study elsewhere is nonsensical and therefor, forced, cheap drama.

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joined Aug 2, 2020

Talking by experience, living in the same city as your significant other doesn't necessarily mean being close to them. Unless you decide to live together, we always have to consider things like living expenses, possible tuitions, etc. So, let's say, even if your significant other has the means to provide for you all, (part-time) jobs will be a reality, and it's not all sunshine and rainbows as media try to depict.

Depending on the path you're pursuing for your life, even living together may become a long-distance relationship. Sorry to break the bad news, but life itself is bittersweet, and I daresay more bitter than sweet.

This is all arguably true of real life, but kind of irrelevant to anticipating the plot of this particular manga series.

Looking at the narrative patterns of conflict and resolution that have been established over more than 100 chapters, it’s beyond unlikely that this story will end up with Nanoha and Chidori’s relationship crashing and burning or with the two them living physically in the same apartment but only barely truly existing within an emotional void, a harsh psychic desert laid waste by onerous jobs and grinding responsibilities.

I still predict a happy home with aprons and science babies.

Don't get me wrong, series like this brighten my day. I just made a comment on something I've seen in other mangas, like Can't Defy the Lonely Girl for example, books, and movies. I'm more into drama myself, though, so I'm not denying I'd like to see Nanoha and Chidori facing more "what about our future together?" kind of conflict.

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joined Jul 29, 2017

Don't get me wrong, series like this brighten my day. I just made a comment on something I've seen in other mangas, like Can't Defy the Lonely Girl for example, books, and movies. I'm more into drama myself, though, so I'm not denying I'd like to see Nanoha and Chidori facing more "what about our future together?" kind of conflict.

I get it. Sometimes I like drama, sometimes I like bad behavior, sometimes I like fluff, etc

But I tend to appreciate unity of affect, so I’m not, say, looking for more action scenes in Miss Sunflower.

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Yuri Project
joined Jul 14, 2016

Your just projecting your own situation onto a fictional situation that's similar to yours but different.

Nanoha wants to study in Tokyo and potentially cohabit with Chidori.
There's no way there aren't any school available in Tokyo for her to apply to.
There's no way there aren't any schools that are good enough to study at in Tokyo for her to apply to.

She has the will to study in Tokyo, the means to study in Tokyo and schools are definitely available in Tokyo.

This is a no-brainer non-issue, there are no obstacles to them cohabiting while studying in Tokyo what so ever besides sheer stupidity or hubris. Every "reason" introduced for her to study elsewhere is nonsensical and therefor, forced, cheap drama.

I sort of agree with you, but I also remember being 18 and worrying so much about university applications and then picking a school. In retrospect all those concerns seem irrelevant and I'm sure I'd have been better off choosing a school based on wherever my friends went or whatever was closest instead of going to the "best" one I could. Still, at the time, it seemed like a momentous decision. To me, Nanoha's behavior reads as a very realistic portrayal of that time in a young person's life.

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joined Jun 21, 2021

I wouldn't put it past this series to go the "They go to different places after high school, maintain a LDR and come out with a strengthened relationship for it" route, as long as it doesn't end with graduation and does the usual "separation-timeskip-reunion" shtick.

Do hope the series will keep going and actually show their college time if this is the way it decides to go.

Ykn1
joined Dec 20, 2018

I wouldn't put it past this series to go the "They go to different places after high school, maintain a LDR and come out with a strengthened relationship for it" route, as long as it doesn't end with graduation and does the usual "separation-timeskip-reunion" shtick.

Do hope the series will keep going and actually show their college time if this is the way it decides to go.

I can't possibly see it skip this kind of troublesome times, considering the title.

And I certainly wouldn't mind seeing this carry on even into their working lives similarly to A Room For Two.

Although it might be time for the relationship to stop being a secret once they move together.

last edited at Jul 6, 2022 5:26AM

Sleepyfrogwaifutiny
joined Sep 25, 2019

I sort of agree with you, but I also remember being 18 and worrying so much about university applications and then picking a school. In retrospect all those concerns seem irrelevant and I'm sure I'd have been better off choosing a school based on wherever my friends went or whatever was closest instead of going to the "best" one I could. Still, at the time, it seemed like a momentous decision. To me, Nanoha's behavior reads as a very realistic portrayal of that time in a young person's life.

I don't think it's unrealistic that she's worrying about it, I think it's unrealistic that she's -for some weird reason - rationalizing nonsensical reasons to choose a school outside of Tokyo when doing so would be a total lose/lose. There should be almost nothing any school outside of Tokyo could offer her that a school inside of it wouldn't also have, so there's no reason to even entertain the possibility of studying elsewhere in the first place.

The realistic version of this scenario is having one partner having to choose between their relationship or an education they realistically can't and won't have a second try for, usually because the school is at some unique level of quality that they can't get anywhere else if they don't take this chance, but Nanoha doesn't have that problem so the attempted set-up doesn't work here.

Although it might be time for the relationship to stop being a secret once they move together.

"What, dating? Us? Don't be ridiculous!"
"Chidori, you've been living together for 25 years and have 3 adopted children. We know."

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Pee
joined Oct 1, 2014

sora and nanoha be baking sweets now

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joined Feb 15, 2021

i'd rather die than not seeing them ending up together. pleaseeee don't turn into a long-lasting angst, my heart can't take it

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joined Nov 21, 2017

omfg thank GOD so many times in manga one person decides to give up on their future to join some stupid school close to their partner and its so fucking stupid I was so happy to see them actually talk about that and Nanoha deciding she WONT limit herself despite her love for Chidori in fact I think itll be fine because itll show that their relationship is strong enough to last long distance god bless

Roody
joined Feb 11, 2022

It’s hard to quit your girlfriend cold turkey

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joined May 20, 2013

She went full 'wangywangy!' on poor Chidori

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Ykn1
joined Dec 20, 2018

Nanoha suffering from Chidori withdrawal. :D

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joined Nov 21, 2020

Re chapter 113: it's usually spelled "confectionery".

...I think?

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Yuri Project
joined Aug 14, 2019

Good catch, thank you! It should be fixed soon.

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joined Jul 29, 2017

Good catch, thank you! It should be fixed soon.

English can be a b***ch with those “both look right” endings:

  • Secretary, but

  • Cemetery, and

  • Stationary & Stationery (both are right, but mean different things)

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joined May 20, 2013
  • Stationary & Stationery (both are right, but mean different things)

Fuck i thought the 2nd thing was spelled the same way as the first. Thanks for teaching me.

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joined Jul 14, 2016

Fixed the chapter. Thanks for the heads up.

Also, in my defense "confectionary" is also a word, apparently? At least according to Merriam-Webster. But it just means "sweets" and not also the art and business of making sweets like "confectionery".

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joined Jul 29, 2017

Fixed the chapter. Thanks for the heads up.

Also, in my defense "confectionary" is also a word, apparently? At least according to Merriam-Webster. But it just means "sweets" and not also the art and business of making sweets like "confectionery".

You’re quite right, but the “-ary“ ending version is at best a dated or obsolete form; if the word is used at all, “confectionery” is the most common form for both senses. Paraphrasing the OED:

  • -ery endings in English tend to come from French and often indicate a place where something is done (for example, bakery).

  • -ary endings tend to be from Latin and are often associated with a person who does something (for example, secretary)

So both endings are technically correct, but modern English tends to discard such fine distinctions when the meanings are close or a word becomes less useful.

(Even when the meanings of two words with similar spellings are quite distinct they can get conflated—judging by the Internet, the “compliment/complement” distinction is becoming an endangered species.)

Like I said, “looks right either way” spellings in English can be a real pain in the ass.

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joined Apr 1, 2015

Their just isn't any right way in English, either way there bound to get they're words mixed up.

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