I hope it was intented of murder, otherwise is silly

It being considered intended or attempted murder does make sense, given that her child was taken away from her, she isn’t allowed to see her, and it’s clearly weighing on her. But I also have a feeling it might involve domestic abuse, and that this is connected to her divorce, with the blame being placed on her even though it may have been self-defense. Still, I might be getting ahead of myself.

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My thoughts are it was probably twisted around on the crime she did by her husband or it was seemed that way maybe because she overworked herself to the point it spiraled. Possibly post partum depression she didn't realize she had and it slowly turned into something violent. I'm hoping she didn't hurt the kid but we'll have to see on the new chapters soon.

huh.

I mean yeah embezzlement from a bank is pretty serious. But it wouldn't stop her from going back home afterwards unless her husband was... less faithfull than he should have been.

Actually though, what changed between her arrest and getting out of jail that she just can't see her daughter anymore? Now I can't wait to see next chapter to find out what her ex-husband did. Did he go back to gambling??? He better fucking not have

Well, damn...

Holy shit.

"My husband racked up an enormous gambling debt" is far from an uncommon development in manga, but damn, it doesn't usually go this harsh and real.

I mean yeah embezzlement from a bank is pretty serious. But it wouldn't stop her from going back home afterwards unless her husband was... less faithfull than he should have been.

Actually though, what changed between her arrest and getting out of jail that she just can't see her daughter anymore? Now I can't wait to see next chapter to find out what her ex-husband did. Did he go back to gambling??? He better fucking not have

Given how other characters were talking about it, I think it is a case of "Is a criminal = is terrible unfit to be near children" mentality, where the taboo regarding crime overrides everything and Matsuri is persona non grata and assumed to be a bad influence to her own daughter.

But, yeah, I am very curious what the husband is doing now. Did the fucker went back to gambling? Is he the one keeping the daughter away (he probably have custody)?

To be fair willingly engaging on embezzlement even when she had a daughter and knew the risks because her husband manipulated her does make her unfit to be a parent.

My bet is that the grandparents are involved.

Ok, first, fuck no. It is a white colar crime with no real victims. The fact the punishment is jail is a problem in itself (not there shouldn't be a punishment, just that isolating from society should be reserved from people who are actually dangerous for society). But more importantly, it doesn't actually impacts anything in her capacity of being a parent. Taking away a child from someone who is no danger for the child is cruelty, plain and simple.

To be fair willingly engaging on embezzlement even when she had a daughter and knew the risks because her husband manipulated her does make her unfit to be a parent.

While I'm sure this isn't something you mean to imply. Her husband who went into gambling debts deep enough to be so future destroying that the only way out was crime. Decided to manipulate his wife into commiting said crime while he got away scot free. If either of the two of them are unfit to be a parent. It's not her.

Ok, first, fuck no. It is a white colar crime with no real victims.

So if I manage to steal your life savings it's okay because no one was physically harmed? Just asking.

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To be fair willingly engaging on embezzlement even when she had a daughter and knew the risks because her husband manipulated her does make her unfit to be a parent.

Gambling addicts are, then?
I don't mean to do whataboutism, but "embezzlement makes you unfit as a parent, gambling addicts are better" doesn't make sense.

We don’t need to go to the typical dynasty forum route, she is not saying that he is fit to be a father unlike her, or that she is worst than him, etc.

Ok, first, fuck no. It is a white colar crime with no real victims.

So if I manage to steal your life savings it's okay because no one was physically harmed? Just asking.

Read my post. I never said it was OK and I also didn't say anything about "physically" harmed. I stand by what I said.

Furthermore, even if you stole my life savings (which, to be clear, is not the same as embezzlement and the fact you think it is is a you problem), I still don't think you should be imprisoned.

Btw, I won't be responding further. Cropping my post to make so the "misunderstanding" of my position sem more believable is a clear sign of bad faith and there is only so much I wish to engage with.

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Ok, first, fuck no. It is a white colar crime with no real victims.

So if I manage to steal your life savings it's okay because no one was physically harmed? Just asking.

I don't know how the Japanese banking system works in detail but given the Deposit Insurance Corporation of Japan you likely wouldn't be seriously harmed in the worst case scenario, especially since she stole directly from the bank (so it wouldn't be your savings but the aggregate of money the bank has on-site) and that the bank would still be considered solvent given it's a loss from theft, not poor investment.
Didn't expect to look into Japanese banking insurance this evening though.

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wow that's one scummy man. him pressuring and manipulating her, and then acting like the good guy who had no idea when she got arrested. lol. lmao. that poor little girl, she deserves her mom back and that shithead out of her life

I’m confused. Why didn’t the mom get the death penalty?

I’m confused. Why didn’t the mom get the death penalty?

...what type of country do you live in that makes you think embezzlement is punishable by death????

I’m confused. Why didn’t the mom get the death penalty?

...what type of country do you live in that makes you think embezzlement is punishable by death????

RTG wants to know your location

All of this is her ex-husband's fault. Matsuri and her daughter are the victims in this situation. It sucks for those dealing with a gambling problem, but the moment you act like this, you've stepped over a line. He's the one at fault.

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To be fair willingly engaging on embezzlement even when she had a daughter and knew the risks because her husband manipulated her does make her unfit to be a parent.

Is it really "willingly" when she was manipulated by him? He was about to put them into an even more dangerous situation, pretty much cornering Matsuri. Her and Koyomi are both the victims here—he literally targeted a vulnerability (her love for her daughter AND him) so he could get out of the pit he dug himself and push all the blame on her, all while acting like he actually cared.

I’m confused. Why didn’t the mom get the death penalty?

So many self-righteous people here wanting to burn every person not without a single wrongdoing.
Bleh

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PUT HIM IN THE TRASH

Oh, a Kaiji plot line

I'm guessing that he marries another woman and the courts side with him as far as child custody, criminals are treated like societal traitors in Japan.