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Do we know if something happened with this manga? It's been a while since the latest update...

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joined Sep 10, 2022

Do we know if something happened with this manga? It's been a while since the latest update...

It got posted somewhere else.

Pov_youre_a_triple_mugger
joined Feb 19, 2016

RETURN OF THE KING
This is getting really good

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joined Jun 19, 2025

TT__TT definitely one of my all time favorite Manga

Very heartbreaking the way these two are being treated

joined Jun 8, 2022

Welp. Azuki made some big strides. But now Remu is being blackmailed. Niji might even give her scripts to work off of, the looney.

joined Aug 1, 2022

I'm so happy and proud for Azuki right now. She really does feel like she's healing and growing while everyone around her is having like the worst time. I'm kind of annoyed at Meguru for doing that to Azuki and not even being sure if she wanted it. But for the drama of the story i love it. I want to see her more frustrated and hopefully come to a definite realization whatever that is.

But for Remu I'm absolutely terrified. Niji is gonna ask for some scary stuff i feel it in my bones. I hope the adults can save Remu from her terrible scary friend soon.

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joined Mar 21, 2025

Fascinating. We already have one pair finding out how their fetish is not what it seems like before.
I wonder what will become of the other “real life fanfiction” fetish pair now.
My personal guess is that she will find out that even if she can blackmail her, it will never be as perfect as her imagined fanfiction (or something from I Love Amy will happen and she may decide to let her go because it somehow feels better) and makes her frustrated, and in turn requires her crush to help her.

But, the biggest challenge I see for this story is how it will end. Of course it makes sense for the two protagonists at the beginning of the tale to get together, but their relationship isn’t exactly pure as it is. Not to mention it means the other two girls need to have their own endings separately. I still wish for them to have a relationship at the end but there’s no reason to at the moment…

And now that all their cards are on the table, I think this is when everything goes downwards. Needless to say, I am highly anticipating how will this particular event end.

Bravo for everything.

Chimera
joined Aug 2, 2023

Meguru forcing Azuki to deny herself in front of her is vile. Making your "love" of somebody conditional to them forcing themselves to act against their nature so their love is "correct" is, simply put, grooming.

What gets me the most anxious is that I don't see any pairing here (Remu/Niji, Azuki/Remu and Azuki/Meguru) being able to resolve happily. The first because Niji just has a crush on some non-factual, imaginary version of Remu, the second because of family dynamics: Meguru would certainly disapprove of Azuki getting with Remu (and dating the sister of the ex that traumatized you is just asking for trouble). The final one, as mentioned above, is just lopsidedly manipulative.

It's also interesting how Meguru and Niji are both also trying to mould a lover by their desires, but instead of clay, they're using people.

Smug
joined Mar 27, 2024

Meguru forcing azuki to do that isn't the best, but I think Meguru being confused about what she wants is understandable and I feel bad for both of them. Meguru reads very strongly to me as asexual, and possibly homoromantic as well, combined with some sexual trauma from stumbling across her dad cheating on her mom.

Her contradictory expressed desires are from her being confused by what society tells her she is suppose to want from a relationship, and what she internally, actually wants from one. It seems she doesn't have anyone close enough to talk to these feelings about, so she hasn't had tho opportunity to figure out she's asexual, and it's very possible she doesn't even know that asexuality is a thing at all.

I hope that her reconnecting with Azuki will giver her someone to talk to and figure out her feelings with, but considering what this manga is, its more likely their relationship will develop in a more toxic direction, with Azuki denying herself and Meguru continuing to express contradictory desires because she doesn't have a framework to understand what it is she wants from the relationship ( a romantic but non-sexual one.)

Edit: typos

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joined Jun 19, 2021

I interpreted Meguru's situation as more of a conflict between her actually having sexual urges (being irritated that Azuki ended up not touching her) and her trauma leading to her to believe that those urges are a dirty, shameful thing and therefore struggling to believe they could be something she has herself. I think she does want a physical relationship, she's just had her view of them warped by the bad example she witnessed in the past.

(I'm not opposed to the idea of her being asexual, I'd just be a bit surprised)

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joined May 23, 2024

Its just so peak

Ykn1
joined Dec 20, 2018

Everyone has their own problems.

And what Meguru thinks she wants might not be what she truly wants inside.

Chocolate Cake
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joined Jul 1, 2025

Up until now, I could still somewhat sympathise with Niji. But with this blackmail plot, she's actively villainous—and not in a fun way.

joined Jun 8, 2022

Please don't bully her (like this), miss villainess! :p

But seriously, yeah. It's sad, but it naturally follows from previous characterization. Niji feels powerless in her private life, and after things with Remu went wildly out of bounds from her perspective she was granted a lever to force compliance. She ain't going to relinquish it without making things worse for everybody, I think.

joined Jul 26, 2024

Up until now, I could still somewhat sympathise with Niji. But with this blackmail plot, she's actively villainous—and not in a fun way.

If we consider from Niji's perspective, we can realize she still likely cares about (her idealized) version of Remu. She knows almost nothing about Azuki and believes Azuki is taking advantage of Remu by grooming her to act differently. From what she's seen, Azuki looks very bad, so she wants to save Remu. In fact Azuki, has made morally questionable choices by getting involved with a student this way.

The very obvious info to readers is that Azuki is not particularly taking advantage of Remu and that Niji is the one holding Remu hostage in order to force her to act like a different person. Niji may feel very bad once she realizes this, but for now we need her to make more bad choices.

On mangadex, I joked that we needed Remu to become more traumatized to catch up to the older characters. Niji is helping us out.

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Ava-min
joined Dec 8, 2022

Up until now, I could still somewhat sympathise with Niji. But with this blackmail plot, she's actively villainous—and not in a fun way.

If we consider from Niji's perspective, we can realize she still likely cares about (her idealized) version of Remu. She knows almost nothing about Azuki and believes Azuki is taking advantage of Remu by grooming her to act differently. From what she's seen, Azuki looks very bad, so she wants to save Remu. In fact Azuki, has made morally questionable choices by getting involved with a student this way.

The very obvious info to readers is that Azuki is not particularly taking advantage of Remu and that Niji is the one holding Remu hostage in order to force her to act like a different person. Niji may feel very bad once she realizes this, but for now we need her to make more bad choices.

On mangadex, I joked that we needed Remu to become more traumatized to catch up to the older characters. Niji is helping us out.

I don't really see this interpretation. Just from the way she acts and talks it doesn't feel like Niji wants to save or protect Remu. She is presented as way more concerned about her own self and how her own misaligned fantasies have been disrupted.

"What about me?" "Was it fun lying to your friends?" etc. - This does not at all read as somebody acting out of worry and genuine concern, but somebody acting out of spite and with a false sense of ownership over another person. It's not about Remu's wellbeing - it's all just about Niji, and what she wants or thinks she deserves.

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joined Jul 23, 2014

"What about me?" "Was it fun lying to your friends?" etc. - This does not at all read as somebody acting out of worry and genuine concern, but somebody acting out of spite and with a false sense of ownership over another person. It's not about Remu's wellbeing - it's all just about Niji, and what she wants or thinks she deserves.

Agreed, Niji's concerns about Remu all seem to be related to her fantasies, she doesn't care about the person, she cares about the character inside her head that Remu should be. And while I think there's some sympathy to be had for Niji, I won't excuse her blackmailing Remu.

On a happier (? note, I'm really proud about Azuki and how she has managed to overcome her trauma a bit. Also, Meguru feeling frustrated despite Azuki behaving exactly how she wanted her to be is hilarious.

Ykn1
joined Dec 20, 2018

Damn, Niji... Even editing real life to suit your needs now, eh?

joined Jul 26, 2024

She refers to Azuki as "the meddler," talks about putting Remu "back on the right track" (ie returning Remu to how she was pre Azuki), and has story Remu use lines like "this is the real me". When a commenter says no one like Remu could be real, she blocks the person and says "Remu is right here":

https://dynasty-scans.com/chapters/our_love_is_disgusting_ch07#16

She clearly believes she's helping Remu return to her original personality.

As for her trying to control Remu, yes, but she's not self conceiving of it as controlling Remu. She hasn't been depicted as thinking, "I know the real Remu is different than in the story. How can I blackmail and manipulate her to pretend she's like that so I can enjoy myself more?"

Controlling behavior in real life is usual not the result of some psychopath concocting elaborate schemes. It's more often because they think there is something they need to be okay that's being denied to them. Because of that, they feel scared or angry and try to get whatever that is. When someone stops them, they see that other person as the aggressor, even if to everyone else they look like the real aggressor.

Niji is like this in the story. Acting like this is completely compatible with caring about someone. Loving someone doesn't always mean you treat them well in practice or correctly understand them - that's the theme of this story, after all.

Why would she want to tell Remu's mom if not out of blackmail plans? Remu's mom is like she imagined in her story.

https://dynasty-scans.com/chapters/our_love_is_disgusting_ch09#7

Of course Niji would want to involve the mom if she thinks the situation is out of hand.

Another thing to keep in mind is that they've been friends a long time. We didn't see it, but it means they spent a lot of time supporting each other. That's why Remu has trusted Niji and wanted Niji to stay friends with her. Remu isn't someone passive who would stay friends with someone constantly mistreating her. What we're seeing now is Niji having a breakdown and acting differently than she has in the past.

The end of her arc is likely accepting that Remu is different than her idealized version of Remu and that the real one is also okay for being who she is. This is the same realization the other characters need to have about each other. I would be surprised if the other three characters go on a journey of self discovery and eventual healing, but Niji is just evil, never cared about Remu, and the author burns the relationship.

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Ava-min
joined Dec 8, 2022

She clearly believes she's helping Remu return to her original personality.

As for her trying to control Remu, yes, but she's not self conceiving of it as controlling Remu. She hasn't been depicted as thinking, "I know the real Remu is different than in the story. How can I blackmail and manipulate her to pretend she's like that so I can enjoy myself more?"

Controlling behavior in real life is usual not the result of some psychopath concocting elaborate schemes. It's more often because they think there is something they need to be okay that's being denied to them. Because of that, they feel scared or angry and try to get whatever that is. When someone stops them, they see that other person as the aggressor, even if to everyone else they look like the real aggressor.

Ah - I see where the confusion might be coming from.

So let's start of by saying that nobody this far believes that Niji is a psychopath, or anything close to that. I believe her psychology has been presented more closely to that of a stalker thus far - with a lot of her behavior and thinking matching up very closely to well known cases.

One fundamental thing here would be her elaborate fantasies, and how they begin to supersede reality. This is something we can commonly see with stalkers - where they have these highly detailed mental worlds about their victim. In these fantasies the targets of their affection are seen in a highly idealized light (perfectly matching the stalkers own taste), and of course as holding deep affection for the stalker.

Now having these fantasies is in itself not harmful, and rather common. To some degree a lot of people might work through their social or parasocial relationships by indulging in some sort of fantasy here and there. For a stalker however the fantasy becomes more and more consuming, until it starts replacing actual reality. This is a process that we see Niji going through - working out her crush towards Remu through fiction, but this fiction becoming more and more important and real to her. She understands Remu far better than anybody else. This fictional version of Remu is the true Remu. And so on.

Now - with a stalker - if they find out that their fictional account of their victim does not match up with reality, they will choose this fiction over reality, making up some sort of excuse why this idolized person does not behave like they are supposed to. For Niji this would be the "meddler" who is corrupting Nemu, pulling her away from her 'true' self - harming Nemu in the process.

By framing things like this - so they align with their fantasies - the stalker can then justify to themselves all kinds of morally reprehensible actions - violence, kidnapping, murder. Now these are all pretty dark, and I don't think this manga will push things this far, but we do see Niji stoop to blackmail and emotional violence - and she will probably frame this as her doing something good, as her protecting the 'true' Nemu, but that is of course not what actually is going on.

Niji is not really interested in protecting Nemu. She wants - needs - to protect her fantasy, and the fantasy version of Nemu - both of which are of course only extensions of herself and her own desires, so in the end she is only interested in protecting herself. We see this through her actions and words. Instead of trying to focus on Nemu, its all about herself - how she feels - how she has been hurt.

I don't mean to say that she does any of this intentionally or knowingly. It is all purely subconscious - but it still means that her underlying intentions are not based on some sort of misguided virtue, but purely on a selfish desire.

Dumshork
joined Mar 19, 2022

As for her trying to control Remu, yes, but she's not self conceiving of it as controlling Remu.

Niji is a narcissist whose own personal delusion of her "friend" is more important to her than the reality of the person. She is consciously trying to manipulate Remu into becoming that delusion and loses her mind when it doesn't go her way. This isn't how someone who is misunderstood acts. We don't need to "consider things from Niji's perspective" because her perspective isn't based on reality.

joined Jul 26, 2024

I certainly never said Niji is virtuous or that this type of behavior would be beneficial to others.

And in fact, no character's perspective is based on reality, as this is fiction. If one isn't interested in the perspective of a major character in a piece of fiction, I guess they will not enjoy the parts of the story involving that character, but I will still talk about that character if I want to do so.

Edit: Also, I agree that this type of thinking, when taken to the extreme, can lead to murder etc. The same can be said of many typical human traits. I even described one thought process through which someone can appear as the aggressor to others (with murder being an extreme example of aggression) while thinking of themselves as a victim.

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Dumshork
joined Mar 19, 2022

And in fact, no character's perspective is based on reality, as this is fiction

Ok, you're a troll. Got it.

joined Jul 26, 2024

My definition of trolling doesn't include talking about a fictional character's beliefs and motivations in a forum thread dedicated to talking about that specific story. This is rather the specific place to do it, as Niji's beliefs and motivations are part of the story.

If you mean I am trying to upset you, that is is definitely not the case. I will avoid responding to you if I can remember, which will likely last at least until the next update. Trust me that I don't get anything out of upsetting others in one of the few social outlets to which I have access.

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Ava-min
joined Dec 8, 2022

I certainly never said Niji is virtuous or that this type of behavior would be beneficial to others.

And in fact, no character's perspective is based on reality, as this is fiction. If one isn't interested in the perspective of a major character in a piece of fiction, I guess they will not enjoy the parts of the story involving that character, but I will still talk about that character if I want to do so.

Edit: Also, I agree that this type of thinking, when taken to the extreme, can lead to murder etc. The same can be said of many typical human traits. I even described one thought process through which someone can appear as the aggressor to others (with murder being an extreme example of aggression) while thinking of themselves as a victim.

The reason why people talk about this character is because she is interesting, so I'm not really sure what you are talking about. Morally bankrupt or outright evil characters are interesting - including the psychology behind them. I saw this discussion being more about something purely technical: Is Niji motivated by wanting to protect Remu or wanting the best for Remu (and just following these goals in terrible and misaligned ways)?

And my answer was and remains - no - she is not actually interested in Remu's wellbeing. She is merely interested in protecting her idealized fantasy, which is an extension of her own desires (at least at the time of the current chapter - things like these can always change as the story progresses) - as evidenced by her actions and words.

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