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Primeval Revenant
joined Jun 16, 2019

It's sad what a Frankenstein's monster Masaki became. The way she's leveraging her superficial qualities to get Michi's interest. Those qualities Honda brought out of her, got jealous of her over, which now Masaki is using to hurt Honda in return. Masaki's still crossing some red lines but in my book Honda's the one who came away most negatively this chapter.

I honestly can not see how Honda could possibly have come away the most negatively here. What she did was abhorrent but it pales in comparison to a rape attempt. There is no hurt in the world that justifies that.

Pinekon
joined Jan 10, 2022

Not that I'm an expert or anything, but trying to force yourself on someone might turn them off from whatever you represent. Be it race or gender, or some other things they might associate with the situation and the attacker. I don't think Masaki thought that through that well.

The more I read this, the more I hope this doesn't end up like the Flower series. Because the bubble of expectations is so big right now that it had better deliver some satisfying answers, conclusions, and resolutions at some point.

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joined Sep 23, 2021

man so what reona did to masaki really was pretty cold. doesn't excuse her behaviour, especially towards michi, but it does make her somewhat more sympathetic.

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joined Jun 5, 2025

the moment i saw the tag i knew we were getting into some serious shit but poor masaki i understand her feelings

Satsuaki
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joined Oct 9, 2021

I honestly can not see how Honda could possibly have come away the most negatively here. What she did was abhorrent but it pales in comparison to a rape attempt. There is no hurt in the world that justifies that.

Because Masaki is in small part a victim in the grand scheme, unlike Honda. I'm not excusing what Masaki's doing right now - this is likely both Masaki and Honda's lowest point and in isolation they're incomparable in Honda's favor. Masaki deserves getting chaired and more.

But Honda knows what Masaki's like. She knows what Michi's like, she knows what Masaki's been like with Michi, knows entirely that Masaki will take advantage of Michi to hurt her. Honda is the character described by word of god as having a maxed charisma stat. Abandoning Michi to this because she's too cowardly to face Masaki is unconscionable. Abandoning Masaki the first time is only more forgivable because she was younger.

Masaki is someone with zero self-esteem who only sees value in what Honda turned her into. I wouldn't say this is solely about taking from Michi or Honda; in her warped way I think this is how Masaki thinks she should offer herself to someone. She might look the part of an outgoing gyaru but she's as bad at socialization as Michi is. Had no friends before or after Honda, spends all her time on "the ass end of the internet". But she knows she's pretty because that's what Honda, the audition, and her bullies told her. She only ever wanted someone to value her like Honda did at first. Both times she claims this is just to hurt Honda she sounds unsure of her own feelings. Deep down she's desperate for connection and doing all the wrong things to get it.

Honda forced her own dream onto Masaki, gave her shaky confidence, then the moment Masaki failed pretended like she hardly knew her and dropped her to get bullied into quitting school. From Masaki's perspective, Honda might have only been using her and stopped caring when she couldn't live vicariously through her. It's completely self-fulfilling that Honda lets Masaki hurt her still. But Michi absolutely does not deserve to get pushed into this by Honda, just the same as Masaki's a monster for what she's doing right now. An actual monster on par with the ghosts. And a monster of Honda's making.

I'm not saying anyone's wrong to think Masaki is past the point of no return. Honda will have a far easier time redeeming herself. It's just personally I've suffered a lot more betrayal of trust than invasion of bodily space and it's a line I'm heavy on.

Now in Honda's defense I think she's lost in self-loathing and completely wrong in her own judgment. She's changed since middle school. She's reliable(when the drama doesn't directly involve her), she helps others like it's second nature, she cares about Masaki more than simple penance. This is just her lowest point and 100% foreshadowing for Honda to prove herself wrong and save Michi down the line. But right now she's doing exactly what she warned in self-pitying self-serving self-deprecation. Michi would be right to feel even more abandoned by Honda than Masaki was.

EDIT: Thinking on it more I want to add as a lesser charge against Honda how messed up it is telling a girl who was in Masaki's position (no friends, no social skills, you were one of the few people she's comfortable with) that you never thought of her as a friend and to cut ties with her. Like this is just repeating history.

Love Honda anyway. She's a great character. I never expected Dorothy's comment about this volume being Honda vs Masaki to come to this much of a head.

last edited at Sep 2, 2025 9:17AM

Kafhime-chibi-dance4
joined May 24, 2025

Putting the Honda / Masaki drama aside for a moment.

I'm really worried about Kasumi and the effects this accidental / forced possession will have on her. Someone's gotta stitch that hole up, the girl is a max power ghost vacuum.

But on the other hand, it was really great timing to suck in Aizawa. The ability to hold physical objects (chairs) came in handy after all...

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joined Dec 18, 2013

Wow, I was expecting Honda to have pulled some bullshit to traumatize Masaki like that, but nothing on that scale. No wonder Masaki is so messed up.

Really strange how Kasumi just swept Aizawa into her, I hope her girlfriend and the exorcist lady do something about it soon.

Ykn1
joined Dec 20, 2018

Well, damn...

And you've made Aizawa angry now...

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joined Sep 21, 2019

yeah frankly Masaki can go fuck herself.
although I guess she's a breath of fresh air, as an actively ill-intentioned human (the first one in the series).

also the meme at the end LOL

But Honda knows what Masaki's like. She knows what Michi's like, she knows what Masaki's been like with Michi, knows entirely that Masaki will take advantage of Michi to hurt her. Honda is the character described by word of god as having a maxed charisma stat. Abandoning Michi to this because she's too cowardly to face Masaki is unconscionable. Abandoning Masaki the first time is only more forgivable because she was younger.

ok yeah you make a good fucking point, that's pretty fucked up too (I initially only read it as Honda saying hurtful things on purpose to try and distance herself from Michi)

last edited at Sep 2, 2025 5:20PM

SmallFriendlyScorpion
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joined Apr 25, 2020

honda can you please unfumble your girl for a sec she's doing crazy and bad things

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joined Jul 23, 2021

KasuZawa with the steel chair

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joined Oct 19, 2020

She's about to get Higurashi Rika'd to death

Hj
joined May 3, 2020

Both Honda and Masaki come off incredibly bad here, but Masaki is undoubtedly worse. Thought since both are close to irredeemable it's splitting hairs at this point.

joined Jul 8, 2019

WWF style

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joined Oct 20, 2017

Wow the whole friend group is a mess now. I mean it already kinda was after last chapter, but still.

Also, this is the second time that a girl tried to kiss Michi in the infirmary and third girl had to intervene. I don't know what this means yet but I'll continue to monitor the situation.

SmallFriendlyScorpion
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joined Apr 25, 2020

Also, this is the second time that a girl tried to kiss Michi in the infirmary and third girl had to intervene. I don't know what this means yet but I'll continue to monitor the situation.

let us know if you find anything. we're all on the edge of our seats here.

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joined Apr 19, 2012

lmaooo what is going on

Glass
joined Apr 5, 2021

I've stopped myself several times from reading the new chapters until I've reread everything again and it was totally worth it bc I always forget everything that has happened so far.
Every time I read a new chapter I'm amazed by the characters' complexities and the storyline. I love how it's so funny even though its main genre is mystery.
And I also want to thank the translator for their work because you can really tell they pay attention to every detail and can connect everything.
THIS MANGA IS SIMPLY TOO GOOD. I FUCKING LOVE IT.

Satsuaki
noighd
joined Oct 9, 2021

To quote Dorothy on this chapter, "Solve your problems with yelling and violence!"

Chapter 30 is out and I plan to have it translated by tomorrow.
I'll be translating a one-shot by Dorothy for Halloween as well.
Because I'm not up to date, I'll try not to spoil anything. But I will say the Honda vs Masaki arc has ended.
I did jot down some thoughts before 30's release so I'll try expanding on those without hinting whether I'm right or wrong:

I think this is the first clear view Michi's had of Mini Michi? It's her first appearance since the festival too. Kinda foreboding how MM is easily exhausted and fades out. She's probably not dead-ish again but it seems the festival only gave her a short-term burst of power rather than returning her to full strength. And without MM the barriers are gone and nothing can return Aizawa to normal.

Except a well-timed slap apparently. Michi's seriously lost it and who can blame her. Both Masaki and Honda are being pretty damn inconsiderate as she's caught in the crossfire. Honda would never want to hurt Michi but she's gone haywire with Masaki involved, lashing out with misguided concern last chapter and quickly forgetting the whole reason she came to the nurse's office: instead of helping Michi she's yelling in circles with Masaki again. And Masaki is self-destructing not caring who's in harms way. That's not even getting into the existential crisis they're giving the invisible ghost in the room.

Aizawa has seriously lost it. The interesting part is Aizawa temporarily forgetting what happened. When she's overcome with emotion, Aizawa almost behaves as if possessed herself, acting singlemindedly and losing short-term memories. Not that I'm saying it's literal possession - more akin to her ghostly id jacking her consciousness and acting on her uninhibited desires. It's something to keep note of as ghosts get fleshed out. And to compare to "Mizu" who similarly strangled Ange in ch26.

When Aizawa "comes apart" (I have a hard time picking a phrase for that given how indescribably lovecraftian it is) there's further reinforcement it's a response to being forgotten, becoming literally formless/undefined. The thought of one of her biggest fans forgetting her is enough to kill(?) her, especially in Aizawa's emotionally frayed state given all that's worn her down lately.

There should only be enough pages in volume 5 for 1 more chapter. Dorothy promised DeLphi backstory this volume so I expect ch30 to swap back to Karasuma and Tear and give us details there. Every volume consistently ends on a few major twists/reveals - last time it was the existence of DeLphi's deceased 5th member, "Mizu". This time I'm sure we'll find out who she really is.

Anyway the composition went crazy on p18. Funny how Michi is so frustrated she doesn't even have the capacity to freak out over Aizawa melting this time. Important to note she gets another nosebleed there - not really sure what that means yet, likely Michi's powers straining, but to defend herself? To hold Aizawa together? It happens every time Michi suffers heavy Aizawa exposure but it's almost certainly a response on Michi's end and not a direct effect from Aizawa.

  • Free-space praise for the tonal shifts when that spread gives way to the goofiest spread in the manga.
  • And it looks like that's it for the theory Masaki can see ghosts. No way you wouldn't react to a girl going full eldritch on you. But she's not 100% normal given the "idol star vision" she's got going.

Here's your Aizawa Crossing cheat sheet:
Ange: goat
Tear: rabbit
Non: cat
Kasumi: sheep
Sayaka: wolf
Aizawa: dog
Michi: cat
Masaki: rabbit
Honda: bear
Seta: dog
Karasuma: bird

joined Aug 21, 2017

I find Masaki's insistence that Honda doesn't care about Aizawa to be really weird since both Masaki and Honda seem to be telling the truth as they see it. I wonder if it's another Michi not remembering being friends with Aizawa type situation, like there's a big Aizawa shaped hole cut out of the timeline and the edges of it are coming into focus.

joined Jul 8, 2019

To quote Dorothy on this chapter, "Solve your problems with yelling and violence!"

For once, it's good to see Michi acting intead of reacting.

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joined Nov 7, 2022

Looks like Honami's supernatural strength wasn't enough to stop Honda from shoving Kasumi away (and into little Michi's arms) to rescue Masaki.

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joined Mar 20, 2016

"Michi's Losing It!!" - ...When did she have it?

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joined Jan 30, 2013

Crying. She got fed the fuck up lmao

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joined Oct 19, 2020

VIOLENCE

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