tl;dr Frost wins in my book.

I'm glad to see someone else was thinking the same. This was clearly Frost's win and Shion would already have her throat cut if this was an actual fight to the death. That being said, I do believe that it only appears this way due to the artist not considering the technicalities and the intended reading is a draw.

Maybe, but sometime has been writing action series for at least five years at this point, so I find it hard to believe they would have made such a mistake.

tl;dr Frost wins in my book.

I'm glad to see someone else was thinking the same. This was clearly Frost's win and Shion would already have her throat cut if this was an actual fight to the death. That being said, I do believe that it only appears this way due to the artist not considering the technicalities and the intended reading is a draw.

Maybe, but sometime has been writing action series for at least five years at this point, so I find it hard to believe they would have made such a mistake.

Unless it gets brought up again, I'd assume it's a tie. The story treated it that way. She might have noticed the difference in the art but I can't imagine most of the audience will worry about that--she might have thought the same. Cool scene though! Sometime is great.

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Frost absolutely won, she was fighting with a handicap to not give up her identity as the Black Knight and was able to not only force Shion to pull out her mask power-up but end the fight on a stalemate (that as pointed out was less of a stalemate than a dramatic clash on Frost's favor).

This kinda cliché "I trust them anyway" development doesn't really feel earned at this point. There should've been a bit more development to make such a statement feel substantiated with something besides "those are the protagonists so of course".

I mean, her life was literally saved the knight, no? We’ve seen Frost go out to fight and try and save ppl (albeit not in the best way, but still)

It’s obvious Frost isn’t as malicious as ppl paint her, and trusting the person you’re married to and share a roof under over a person you literally just met (and also confessed they don’t know WHY frost even killed “his” dad) makes enough sense to me

And it’s not even blind trust—“I’ll just ask Frost what happened instead of immediately leaving “him””— is basically what happened lol

Yeah a hugely important part of this exchange is Do you know why Frost did those things? No? Okay then, I will uncover the truth myself. Combined with this exact line "I refuse to make assumptions out of fear". I don't think this is cliché or unreasonable. Our protagonist entered into a marriage with someone that people judge without knowing the whole picture, and she wants to determine the truth for herself without giving into rumors based on fear mongering. She's being level headed and reasonable, especially as she knows this woman selling her these claims has an agenda because it's obvious, and she's known this woman for even less time than Frost.

This chapter was great in my opinion, especially as there was no real reason for her to go against Frost here anyways. She has decided to trust Frost up to this point as a wife, why would she fold easily now? That would be absurd.

One other reason Clarice's choice makes sense to me is that she was definitely hesitating a bit. She admits to herself the possibility that Frost has been misleading her, but she chooses to have faith in Frost's humanity (almost in the literal sense, because everybody else only knows the Black Knight as a silent, walking armor). Clarice knows she is in a unique position that makes her possibly the only person at this time who can advocate for Frost in this way, and she is a kind girl to a fault.

And another one is that throughout the story Clarice has been shown to be bold, bordering on reckless. She volunteered to be the bride of the Black Knight, despite his terrifying reputation, because she just loves her family that much, and perhaps does not value her own safety quite enough. And since then, she has been rolling with the punches. "The Black Knight is a woman? No problem, we can still consummate the marriage. She threatened to kill me to protect her secret? Well, maybe she will reconsider if I pretend to be in love with her. All the chefs resigned? No problem, I'll be the chef." And so on. We could say that Violet's warning that Clarice's life is in danger comes a little too late.

I think the revelations from Violet upset Clarice more because she does not see her marriage to Frost as just a scheme to save her family anymore. If the marriage was still pure business, it would be easy for her to say no to Violet, as it would just be the next step in the scheme. Clarice is a kind girl who does not like to see the townspeople suffer, but even if Violet is right about Frost, running away from Frost would not by itself help the townspeople. So the aspect of irrationality in this exchange is not that Clarice says no to Violet. It's that she wants to believe that people are wrong about Frost, even though dismissing Frost as a bad person could make her feel better about trying to use Frost's wealth to help her own family. Cliché or not, that kernel of irrationality is kind of unavoidable in a yuri/romance plot, especially of this type.

Now, this is just speculation, but I have some ideas for how Clarice started to feel something so quickly, in this crazy marriage. I mentioned above the unique position where she might be the only one who knows who Frost is when the armor comes off. Frost may be an impulsive and insecure person with a horrible temper, but she is a person, and on top of that a really tall and beautiful woman (a "ridiculously hot" "mythical goddess"). I think that contrast alone, between the silent war machine everyone sees vs the weird but still human woman only Clarice can see, is messing with her head a little bit. It's more than just a humanizing effect because Clarice has had to shoulder the knowledge alone. And given her terrible first impression of Frost's personality, every small concession (praising the food Clarice makes, the chess game, the "date" in Lübeck) Clarice has been able to get out of her becomes magnified. She noted to herself that she has gotten better at "handling" Frost, and I think having that exclusive ability to influence Frost is part of why she is no longer that scared of her. As the plan to seduce the Black Knight feels like a more and more real possibility, it starts to feel like more than just a means to an end.

I have this weird feeling like the mangaka introduced a character intending them to be one way and then lost control and let them talk until they were another way.

So far I see nothing here except a basic case of the first impressions about the character being challenged by new information. Even if the price gouging ends up being completely swept under the rug -which is not something I'm inclined to assume yet- it would not be "weird" because wrongdoing being overridden by backstory or one big heroic act is a pretty common thing in more pulpy media.

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I mean, violet is full of bulls. Even putting aside the obvious lack of contest as to why Gaius was attacked and killed, all she knows for sure is that she saw one person of similar stature (and i should say, roughly similar stature, since it's going to be pretty hard to get a precise picture of that when the person is wearing an helmet and cloack) as the black knight kill Gaius and become the Black Knight. She have no guarantee that this person was Frost and not another person that Frost would have then killed to become Black Knight.
Not crafting a theory that it WAS a different person, just saying she's speaking way too categorically for someone who have so little certains informations.

Violet can also clearly afford to dress fancy for someone who allegedly has to price gouge just to keep afloat. I don't know how much this series is actually going to seriously get into it, but it is funny to note.

I like her though, and every other character so far. I like that she does seem quite sincere. It's quite a straightforward series so far, so I feel like any character who is too dishonest in this cast will end up feeling kinda disproportionately 'worse' than the rest. Like this the plot continues to move forward pretty smoothly, rather than getting derailed by a total falsehood. Though ironically this means that she's arguably more honest than Frost so far... lol...

I really like Shion, she's so cute. I'm not really into cute schoolgirls, so it's always a blessed day when I get to read yuri with big rough adult women... really, I like most all the character designs, the variety is fantastic. I love how expressive the art is and the sense of comedic timing is just right for me. I'm definitely reading more from this artist.

this is so peak

Didn't the duel end on a draw? Why is Shion saying that she lost?

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Didn't the duel end on a draw? Why is Shion saying that she lost?

prob bc she failed to defend her lady's honor, in a "not winning is equivalent to losing" kinda way.

Clarice works best with a blade to her neck lol

But that flashback with the former Black Knight(?) was ominous...

Lips cancel out swords.

Didn't the duel end on a draw? Why is Shion saying that she lost?

They both wanted to beat the other, so a draw is like losing. They're both super beat up as well. Might as well be twins.

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Hmmm....I wonder why Dahlia [Apparently sister of merchant girl] is working at the black knight mansion (Besides the reason for being a spy for merchant girl. Sounds kind of risky putting one of the house's potential heir so close to potential danger XD)??

Shion is very stronger and powerful...But if that was 80-90% of her true power...Then Frost using her magic armor would have 99% stomp her sadly...

Blackknight/Frost has trust issues...Reasonable for her to have trust issues tho since she has no friends/allies she can trust and any that she did have are probably gone/Dead.
Wonder who that woman was in BK's flashback? Dear friend or her mother??? Though if the guy wearing black armor was her father then...L Dad...totally lame boring father (Assuming the father was not having a mental break down from the magic armor killing him slowly and even then that is no reason to shout at your daughter. Not enough information when or where he said that though if I am giving him the benefit of a doubt?)

Frost/BK is so stubborn lol...Just let the MC bandage you up, no point in acting tough when in your pain XD
Honestly Frost/BK's reputation as being feared has so many more cons instead pros (Not even killing her rivals that been poaching her servant with better pay too so she is not even using her fear reputation properly at all~ Fear rep is only good if your chaotic neutral or evil)...Frost acting irrational and too afraid to let anyone get close to her. She need more workers/farmer/ merchants in her area to help stabilize her land that she is defending from the monsters...

MC is totally 100% based for her smooth move just now...MC trying to act tough but you can see she is embarrassed by what she just did...You know this is now their 2nd (Technically 1st) kiss now. MC should totally T pose too to assert her dominance as well later lol XD

Going to be sad and annoying when Frost finds out about MC's initial intentions for getting married (MC now cares about Frost deeply after seeing all of Frost's good sides)...Hopefully that will only last 1-2 chapters before that misunderstand is resolved...I would be really surprised if the author doesn't ever go that route though 0_0

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I was expecting a hug at the end of the chapter, but that was far bolder and even more exciting lol

The difference in dynamics between the two couples is really funny, one is like a sad puppy, willingly letting her lady tend to his wounds, while the other is like an angry cat, stubbornly refusing to let her wife help. :D

Also THEY KISSED!!! (^v^)/
https://dynasty-scans.com/chapters/i_want_to_make_black_knight_fall_in_love_with_me_ch11#28

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The difference in dynamics between the two couples is really funny, one is like a sad puppy, willingly letting her lady tend to his wounds, while the other is like an angry cat, stubbornly refusing to let her wife help. :D

More like a tiger about to rip the vet to shreds.

It’s peak

Even the Black Knight couldn't have prepared for or anticipated a move as bold as that. Damn girl.

Clarice: What the hell did I just do?
Me: You kissed your wife goodnight, Clarice. Be normal about it.

Wonder who that woman was in BK's flashback? Dear friend or her mother??? Though if the guy wearing black armor was her father then...L Dad...totally lame boring father (Assuming the father was not having a mental break down from the magic armor killing him slowly and even then that is no reason to shout at your daughter. Not enough information when or where he said that though if I am giving him the benefit of a doubt?)

I get the feeling that the woman was somehow related to the Graat family, and she did trick or abandon Frost, which is what caused her trust issues. It may have also what motivated Dahlia to switch allegiances to the Black Knight house, or maybe she is just a regular spy in the enemy camp for the Graats.

Good job, Clarice! ^_^

And looks like there's a lot more to Frost's past than we've suspected so far...

hopefully that kiss get through that thickheaded skull

Stun-locked her and escaped

Surprised Frost let Clarice pull her head down to kissing height. Was expecting the latter to have to hop up for a quick peck instead.

That kiss was super effective! On both sides!

Really hope our girl writes out an essay about stuff she loves bout Frost. It would be sweet to see and kinda funny to see them debate back and forth

Surprised Frost let Clarice pull her head down to kissing height. Was expecting the latter to have to hop up for a quick peck instead.

I’m guessing Clarice is stronger than she looks

oooorr

Frost’s guard was completely down cuz her weapon was pointed at Clarice’s head; she (most likely) had no intention of doing harm, she was just trying to scare her off, and 100% expected her to just walk out or back away, not get closer, and definitely not pull her in for a kiss.

The latter is more likely, either way, I’m sooooooo looking forward to the next chapter. I’m curious how Frost is gonna take this

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Wise choice, a kiss is about the only weapon the Black Knight doesn't know how to counter :P

Clarice looks at an absolute unit of a woman that could rip her in two, sees how bloody livid and paranoid she is and thinks to herself "yep, Im gonna kiss her"