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Internet_lied
joined Jul 15, 2016

What. Boxcutters aren't meant for stabbing, you'd barely do any damage from that. And gut wounds are notorious for taking ages to kill. That's possibly the least effective way to try to murder someone

You have a point on the box-cutters, but as for the gut wound, I am pretty sure she wanted the Prez and the Vice-Prez to suffer for a while first.

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joined May 5, 2020

I do like that Seocchi is essentially going "yeah I fucking tried you know, and turns out being a goody two shoes doesn't matter if Prez still wants me dead. So I'll show him, hell I'll show everyone just how evil I can be"

It makes her heel turn fun, and like yeah, if you try you damnedest and then the idiot arbiter decides you have to die anyway. Then redemption isn't going to save you so you might as well send everyone to hell with you.

"If I can't fight fate, I may as well spit in its face as I go down."

Sometimes all the good intentions in the world can't stop that world from using you as its punch line. May as well give in and let the ride take you where it will at that point. Prez is still a creepy scumbag, and he's actually still more a villain in this than Seo is as far as I'm concerned. I sympathize a lot more with her than I do him, certainly. Dunno if that's gonna be an unpopular opinion or not. I have a feeling it's mostly determined by how much each reader personally relates to her mentality here.

joined Sep 28, 2022

I do like that Seocchi is essentially going "yeah I fucking tried you know, and turns out being a goody two shoes doesn't matter if Prez still wants me dead. So I'll show him, hell I'll show everyone just how evil I can be"

It makes her heel turn fun, and like yeah, if you try you damnedest and then the idiot arbiter decides you have to die anyway. Then redemption isn't going to save you so you might as well send everyone to hell with you.

"If I can't fight fate, I may as well spit in its face as I go down."

Sometimes all the good intentions in the world can't stop that world from using you as its punch line. May as well give in and let the ride take you where it will at that point. Prez is still a creepy scumbag, and he's actually still more a villain in this than Seo is as far as I'm concerned. I sympathize a lot more with her than I do him, certainly. Dunno if that's gonna be an unpopular opinion or not. I have a feeling it's mostly determined by how much each reader personally relates to her mentality here.

both are very bad I think and not mutually exclusive

if she was only after prez I could maybe see some argument but blowing up a room full of people for no reason besides nihilism absolutely is way beyond the pale imo

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joined Oct 19, 2021

Wow, okay, that happened.

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joined Nov 7, 2022

Is the story trying to make me dislike Seo and feel bad for asshole king and queen ? lol nope

You go girl, this guy had it coming.

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Gt00pn-odpc
joined Sep 30, 2017

Is the story trying to make me dislike Seo and feel bad for asshole king and queen ? lol nope

You go girl, this guy had it coming.

Yeah, the problem here is that she is not only trying to kill the Prez. She is trying to blow up a classroom full of innocents. Satsuki must realize that saving her was a mistake.

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joined Dec 1, 2022

honestly, at this point she just snapped. She was thinking of turning a new leaf and the self-righteous prick pushed her to the point she complete went off the rails. I sort of understand where she is coming from.

But what is more interesting is that Komachi is an accomplice. We are finally getting why she's so weird

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joined Apr 27, 2014

I liked the "to hell with this, I'll be really evil" thing, I can understand it with my mind. Komachi, that one is the only one I find actually scary/creepy here, from the beginning.

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joined Sep 30, 2023

Hilarious lol. Really earning the comedy tag with these last few chapters. I'm interested in finally seeing more about Komachi though, so that'll be fun.

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joined Apr 4, 2014

Well well well how the turntables. This manga is turning out to be pretty interesting. Knowing that someone will die and not doing anything about and even witnessing it, is almost the same as killing them. If someone did to me what the prez did to Seo then I would want to kill them too. Like who are they to play god. People can also change too.

However looking at it from the prez's view, Satsuki is just an annoyance who gets in the way of people getting what they might deserve....it's a clash of extremes where there is no winner if one side overpowers the other.

I do hope Satsuki saves the class though, even if Seo was bullied, she shouldn't take out the entire class. But I really wanna see Komachis pov, maybe the whole thing was her idea and Seo is going along with it.

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joined Apr 10, 2023

It doesn't really make any sense for Seo to have anything to do with the classroom, since she was "trying to be good" right up until the Prez tried to kill her. That seems to be entirely Komachi for some reason?? idk this all feels convoluted and unnecessarily dramatic right now.

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joined Mar 25, 2019

October 18th??? Wake me up in 2 weeks

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joined Mar 25, 2019

Hilarious lol. Really earning the comedy tag with these last few chapters. I'm interested in finally seeing more about Komachi though, so that'll be fun.

This series abandoned logic since ch 1, she jumped off a roof to perfectly hit a falling billboard and was mostly unscathed. It's always been Conan tier shenanigans. It's all about the drama and the yuri baby.

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joined Mar 2, 2019

Wow okay. I hope that nutty bi**h ends up in jail, unless she dies from her own stunt somehow.

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joined Jul 19, 2015

I actually really like the way this turned out. Prez wasn't entirely wrong about there being something fundamentally wrong with Seo, but at the same time just when she herself noticed that and tried to turn over a new leaf he pushed her over the edge turning her into exactly who he imagined she was. I don't think there was a more poetic way for him to go out.
As for Seo, I actually feel really bad for her. She's obviously a sociopath who at some point noticed her own tendencies and tried to surpress them, but it's sad to see her just give up, say fuck it and go past the point of no return. I know the series put emphasis on Satsuki and Prez's war of ideologies, but it's kinda fucked up seeing how it basically caused an already mentally not-ok person stuck in the middle go completely insane.

last edited at Oct 6, 2023 7:16AM

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joined Nov 2, 2019

honestly, at this point she just snapped. She was thinking of turning a new leaf and the self-righteous prick pushed her to the point she complete went off the rails. I sort of understand where she is coming from.

But what is more interesting is that Komachi is an accomplice. We are finally getting why she's so weird

What are you talking about? Not only did she prepare the classroom to blow up, she murdered pervert chan beforehand.

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joined Jun 21, 2021

With Komachi i think this might be the same situation as when she Lion King'd Satsuki off a ledge bc she thought that's what Satsuki wanted.
Seo asked her to do smth and Komachi did it, bc she's just like that.

What are you talking about? Not only did she prepare the classroom to blow up, she murdered pervert chan beforehand.

Komachi did a murder?

Why this is yuri if it's not yuri

Satsuki acts pretty gay sometimes. But that definitely isn't a driving force at the moment

Gt00pn-odpc
joined Sep 30, 2017

Why this is yuri if it's not yuri

Satsuki acts pretty gay sometimes. But that definitely isn't a driving force at the moment

Didn't the author state they are not into yuri?

Internet_lied
joined Jul 15, 2016

Satsuki is pretty close to a mental breakdown. The question is, will it break her for good or will it finally induce a reevaluation of her beliefs?

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joined Jul 12, 2020

I can't believe how much murderers and psychos just get to keep walking in this manga. I don't think the Prez's best friend knows how to throw a punch. She just grabbed Seo's collar and yelled at her while crying after Seo killed her best friend. I get Seo had a knife but come on! She still went and grabbed Seo's collar, that's not what someone worried about being in stabbing range would do.

My willing suspension of disbelief was already strained by the events leading up to this. You would think that attempted murders, and one ACTUAL murder in Prez leading that one girl to be struck by lightning and killed, would elicit more guttural and violent reactions from people. But this entire time until now it's just been the Prez trying his best to go on an actual killing spree while Satsuki and the gang go "We'll save your victims because people deserve to live you meanie head!" and then the one time they failed Satsuki and Akira just got sad for a while :(. Meanwhile, Seo is the only one who finally did something about the Prez, but then the author decided to make her a psycho attempting mass murder of innocents and terrorism to paint her as a villain right after.

Oh, and we STILL don't have confirmation on whether Seo was actually trying to turn over a new leaf or if she was really a psycho the whole time who kills because it's fun, I guess?

I don't know, back to the Prez maybe I'm the weird one for thinking that at the very least Akira would have beat the snot out of him in a dark alleyway after school before this, but either way these current events are a step up from "making it look like an accident". The evidence in the classroom is absolutely straight up obvious attempted mass murder and terrorism, and the Prez was murdered with multiple witnesses. There's no way to pretend it's an accident now. If the authorities don't get involved and no one tells on Seo or apprehends her, and she somehow evades prison after this, and if no one confronts Komachi over being a sociopath, and I mean CONFRONT not "Geez Komachi what's wrong with you, being an accomplice in that attempted mass murder wasn't very nice!" Then I'm going to be completely convinced this whole plot is a fever dream and Satsuki has actually just been in a coma this whole time.

last edited at Oct 19, 2023 5:04AM

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joined Apr 10, 2023

Agree with pretty much all of the above. The least few chapters have been all over the place and they don't really add up well at all, especially with details like how on earth could Seo intricately plan all this shit is she only stopped trying to be "good" while she was choking as the Prez watched and gloated? It's like she snapped and then somehow time traveled to retroactively be a scheming evil genius exactly of the same sort that the Prez was.
And I'm totally not a fan of Komachi's "heel turn" because it was telegraphed so obviously and heavy handedly in the very first chapter that not subverting it feels super weird and awkward. "Yeah that weird kid with mental health issues who you had a bad first impression of? No need to check your biases or anything you were right about her all along!" My best guess for her motive is some kind of revenge plot against Satsuki for saving her life when she wants to die, but it's such a fucking stupid scheme if that's the case. We went from cool mysteries to one dimensional scheming villains who start and end looking exactly the same to the audience.
Prez dying while remaining shallow as a puddle makes me hope that maybe there's a twist there, with the scene as shown to us if he was dying and VP did something Satsuki didn't see to save him, the smoke would have disappeared in the exact same way. So maybe there's another twist there, idk. Even if that happens I can't really imagine him somehow turning into a satisfying antagonist anyway.

last edited at Oct 19, 2023 6:20AM

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joined Aug 23, 2022

That plot twist was pretty cheap in my opinion tbh.

I just want to know about Komachi's intentions n leave this manga for good.

joined Jan 3, 2015

Why this is yuri if it's not yuri

Satsuki acts pretty gay sometimes. But that definitely isn't a driving force at the moment

Didn't the author state they are not into yuri?

I stopped reading this cause I noticed how bad it was influencing my mood and life in general, the story/possible Yuri was promising but not worth the toll

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