Well, I guess the author will take the story in some sort of weird polyamory direction in the following chapters, based on the last chapter.

Poor Nanase, she will not even end up with Yuki. And Yuni is still in the running for the most self-absorbed person of the year.

Mhm Nanase really can't communicate for jack, like confront your girlfriend first in private before even thinking of involving your partners affair?

And Yuni is such a hot mess, still wearing the earrings, still cheating and overly confused. She really wants to have her cake and eat it.

I really hope Nanase will give them both an ultimatum, stop the affair or it's over, simple as that. That would be rational and somewhat relatable, but I fear it's gonna be something dumb to keep things spicy and dramatic.

Don't get me wrong I enjoy a good drama but if the lack of good writing makes people act nonsensical to create more drama in a cheap way it's getting boring.
Like with luminous blue, great art but disappointing story and climax.

last edited at Jul 19, 2023 3:57AM

Like with luminous blue, great art but disappointing story and climax.

Yes, looks like the author wants to do the same again. I hated the character Nene, and her cruelty, in luminous blue, have some self-respect Amane. And that weird polyamory ending was out of nowhere.

My money is on Nanase, she's gonna make Fuuko do sexual convenience for Yuni so she can focus on her club. I assume they're all bonkers.

Then Fuuko is chill about it but then she'll have feelings for Yuni and realizes it's happening again like what happen with Yuzuki-chan (ch08). In the end, she's still not the priority.

Go the triangle route. The first page of this story seemed to be implying that.

Mhm Nanase really can't communicate for jack, like confront your girlfriend first in private before even thinking of involving your partners affair?

And Yuni is such a hot mess, still wearing the earrings, still cheating and overly confused. She really wants to have her cake and eat it.

I really hope Nanase will give them both an ultimatum, stop the affair or it's over, simple as that. That would be rational and somewhat relatable, but I fear it's gonna be something dumb to keep things spicy and dramatic.

Don't get me wrong I enjoy a good drama but if the lack of good writing makes people act nonsensical to create more drama in a cheap way it's getting boring.
Like with luminous blue, great art but disappointing story and climax.

You can't expect good writting from this author.... It's just an one trick pony writter with a cuck fetish that can't go beyond that...

Seriously, can someone please just spoil this to me If possible? I really don't care at this point...

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There is nothing to spoil because this series is still ongoing. Chapter 19 came out like yesterday

There is nothing to spoil because this series is still ongoing. Chapter 19 came out like yesterday

What about the raws?

Midnightgunner posted:

There is nothing to spoil because this series is still ongoing. Chapter 19 came out like yesterday

What about the raws?

The raws came out like yesterday too. The scanlator is uber fast.

I can't go faster than Iwami Kiyoko, sorry.

I can't go faster than Iwami Kiyoko, sorry.

Come on, don’t be lazy. Write and draw your own story fan written story ;)

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Midnightgunner posted:

There is nothing to spoil because this series is still ongoing. Chapter 19 came out like yesterday

What about the raws?

The raws came out like yesterday too. The scanlator is uber fast.

It's a shame that actual good stories don't translate as insanely fast as this...

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Midnightgunner posted:

There is nothing to spoil because this series is still ongoing. Chapter 19 came out like yesterday

What about the raws?

The raws came out like yesterday too. The scanlator is uber fast.

It's a shame that actual good stories don't translate as fast as this...

One man's trash is another man's treasure.

Plenty of people love Kyoukano (including me, or I wouldn't translate it so fast).

These two previous chapters have been pretty boring. First Nanase does the reasonable thing and walks away, I definitely expected something a lot more dumb and entertaining. As for this latest chapter, nothing much happened at all I guess, just Yuni being Yuni because that's what Yuni do. Ah well, maybe next time eh?

Midnightgunner posted:

There is nothing to spoil because this series is still ongoing. Chapter 19 came out like yesterday

What about the raws?

The raws came out like yesterday too. The scanlator is uber fast.

It's a shame that actual good stories don't translate as fast as this...

One man's trash is another man's treasure.

Plenty of people love Kyoukano (including me, or I wouldn't translate it so fast).

Sure... But A LOT also hate her work... and I see a lot of criticism about the author writting skills in here and at 4chan.

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Nanase hasn't been written as a character willing to share her girlfriend, so I'd be disappointed if it went that route. What I am more sad about is poor Yuki having feelings for Nanase without even realizing it herself.

I really really enjoy this damn manga and read them all in a row. I absolutely hate cheating but this mess is really enjoyable to look at. Super nice to read, beautiful artstyle and yes almost everyone is shit but that's fine for me. Fuuko is my favorite, it always gets entertaining and a bit fucked up with her.

The look she threw at Nanase at ch 16 was my favorite panel so far, so good

last edited at Jul 19, 2023 9:56AM

Midnightgunner posted:

Sure... But A LOT also hate her work... and I see a lot of criticism about the author writting skills in here and at 4chan.

They just don't understand her genius.

Her writing, page composition; her characters expressions, movements, eyes, etc, are carefully crafted. When Fuuko wraps an arm around Yuni when confronting Nanase, it has meaning. When Fuuko puts her foot besides Yuni, it has meaning. When Nanase slightly blushes when Yuki hugs her, it has meaning.

You might no like the story because you're uncomfortable with the themes, but it doesn't mean the author is bad at what she does. On the contrary, she's very good. She call it herself "kuzu yuri", ie, "trash yuri" and everything is done on purpose to be the most infuriating possible. And obviously, her Japanese audience follows, because her serialization continues.

If you really hate it, just don't read it. Simple as that.

If you keep on reading, it means you're still fascinated, like watching a train wreck, and the author met their goal.

Midnightgunner posted:

Sure... But A LOT also hate her work... and I see a lot of criticism about the author writting skills in here and at 4chan.

They just don't understand her genius.

Her writing, page composition; her characters expressions, movements, eyes, etc, are carefully crafted. When Fuuko wraps an arm around Yuni when confronting Nanase, it has meaning. When Fuuko puts her foot besides Yuni, it has meaning. When Nanase slightly blushes when Yuki hugs her, it has meaning.

You might no like the story because you're uncomfortable with the themes, but it doesn't mean the author is bad at what she does. On the contrary, she's very good. She call it herself "kuzu yuri", ie, "trash yuri" and everything is done on purpose to be the most infuriating possible. And obviously, her Japanese audience follows, because her serialization continues.

If you really hate it, just don't read it. Simple as that.

If you keep on reading, it means you're still fascinated, like watching a train wreck, and the author met their goal.

Bro she's not a misunderstood genius, yes her panel work, art, composition, their facial expressions etc are brilliantly done but thats not thx to the writing. The visuals are stunning and I'm pretty sure that's what most people suck in, the amount of Fuuko simps is insane just because she's so beautifully drawn ( and a ruthless, cunning slightly sadistic player to boot)

It's a big success especially in Japan cause they do love their cheating/cuck fetish. It's not hard to write things infuriatiing when everything is over the top and at it's worst.

A good example of succesfull bad writing is redo of healer. It's pure trash, like the cheapest, dumbest juvenile nasty plot imaginable where everything can happen cause no rules exist. (Ofcourse this Manga is not nearly as bad as redo of healer, just to get my point across successful doesn't equalent good writing or being misunderstood)

Why do people love it? Cause it's shocking and thrilling, its full of sexual sadism and novelty. Same goes for this manga, it's interesting because of the forbidden theme, the cheating, cruelty, the immorality etc..
Those authors are successful because they give people what they want but it doesn't take a genius to write this.

Believe me the moment this manga will focus more on on character and to some extent world building people will lose interest. That would take good writing to pull off. I mean this subtle chapter has almost zero comments on her twitter.

So I think the criticism of the writing is fair and that doesn't mean people dislike it. If you keep bashing it just cause cheating then yeah, you shouldn't read this. Im still interested but since the cheating is out it's getting kinda boring tbh. I do admit I sometimes get to harsch when the writing bugs me.

Just my two cents and not judging anyone who enjoys this or even stuff like redo of healer.

last edited at Jul 19, 2023 12:39PM

Midnightgunner posted:

Sure... But A LOT also hate her work... and I see a lot of criticism about the author writting skills in here and at 4chan.

They just don't understand her genius.

Her writing, page composition; her characters expressions, movements, eyes, etc, are carefully crafted. When Fuuko wraps an arm around Yuni when confronting Nanase, it has meaning. When Fuuko puts her foot besides Yuni, it has meaning. When Nanase slightly blushes when Yuki hugs her, it has meaning.

You might no like the story because you're uncomfortable with the themes, but it doesn't mean the author is bad at what she does. On the contrary, she's very good. She call it herself "kuzu yuri", ie, "trash yuri" and everything is done on purpose to be the most infuriating possible. And obviously, her Japanese audience follows, because her serialization continues.

If you really hate it, just don't read it. Simple as that.

If you keep on reading, it means you're still fascinated, like watching a train wreck, and the author met their goal.

A truly excellent reply. I can only clap and endorse.

Ahh yes, good old internet discourse, where everything is either the purest form of trash or unparalleled work genius. Well, I suppose it makes some sense to swing for the fences when trying to counter opposing thoughts. You are probably not going to convince anyone anyway, so might as well go big or go home!

Her writing, page composition; her characters expressions, movements, eyes, etc, are carefully crafted. When Fuuko wraps an arm around Yuni when confronting Nanase, it has meaning. When Fuuko puts her foot besides Yuni, it has meaning. When Nanase slightly blushes when Yuki hugs her, it has meaning.

You might no like the story because you're uncomfortable with the themes, but it doesn't mean the author is bad at what she does. On the contrary, she's very good. She call it herself "kuzu yuri", ie, "trash yuri" and everything is done on purpose to be the most infuriating possible. And obviously, her Japanese audience follows, because her serialization continues.

If you really hate it, just don't read it. Simple as that.

If you keep on reading, it means you're still fascinated, like watching a train wreck, and the author met their goal.

Bro she's not a misunderstood genius

Bro I'd say she isn't. She's very well understood and enormously successful in Japan. And if some bro in America doesn't like her work, well, I'm sure she could draw a beautiful pic of the turd of shit she doesn't give about that.

Thank you so much for your hard work, Kirin-kun! I almost can't believe you did cl/rd/tl/ts so fast all by yourself! You're the best! ♡

last edited at Jul 19, 2023 1:45PM

It's a shame that actual good stories don't translate as fast as this...

One man's trash is another man's treasure.

Plenty of people love Kyoukano (including me, or I wouldn't translate it so fast).

Sure... But A LOT also hate her work... and I see a lot of criticism about the author writting skills in here and at 4chan.

Damn. I bet Iwami Kiyoko would be devastated to hear that channers hate her work. Heartbroken, even.

last edited at Jul 19, 2023 12:57PM

It's a shame that actual good stories don't translate as fast as this...

One man's trash is another man's treasure.

Plenty of people love Kyoukano (including me, or I wouldn't translate it so fast).

Sure... But A LOT also hate her work... and I see a lot of criticism about the author writting skills in here and at 4chan.

Damn. I bet Iwami Kiyoko would be devastated to hear that channers hate her work. Heartbroken, even.

4-Chan and Dynasty (or forums in general) have a lock on literary quality, masses be damned. Making a popular series like this is easy, any writer could do it, so they say. Yet, somehow, "any writer" doesn't do it.

But anyway, this series could go in any direction and that makes each chapter drop so interesting. I'm really looking forward to re-reading this series once it's done, so I can pick its brains a bit. So many decisions from the author that make it work, but it's hard to analyze them all while in motion.

last edited at Jul 19, 2023 2:00PM

It's a shame that actual good stories don't translate as fast as this...

One man's trash is another man's treasure.

Plenty of people love Kyoukano (including me, or I wouldn't translate it so fast).

Sure... But A LOT also hate her work... and I see a lot of criticism about the author writting skills in here and at 4chan.

Damn. I bet Iwami Kiyoko would be devastated to hear that channers hate her work. Heartbroken, even.

It's not even true that 4chan hates this. On the contrary, it's one of the most popular ongoing yuri manga there.