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Ihstarresi
joined Jun 22, 2018

holy moly dude, everyone just out here getting off in the middle of the class lmao. it just keeps getting better

St1
joined Feb 17, 2013

I dont wanna come off as harsh but wtf are you people expecting? A romantic love story? Story began as fucked up as it can get. A student molesting her teacher on the train. But dont you dare you include blackmail!!! You are giving molestation a bad name.

Its nothing to do with blackmail being worse and nobody was expecting a pure love story! But you have no feel for a stories pacing and flow if you thought that was a good place to suddenly go when the story had barely even got establishing what it was. It was a huge tonal shift and a huge change in focus. It was a sudden and out of place as if the next chapter was all 3 of them going to a boys school for a gangbang.

The inital premise it seemed to be setting up - a lot of found very hot and it was quite a unique take on a fairly common setting and would like to have seen it develop but it shot off the rails before it even got rolling.
Even if you have fetishes for blackmail and anal and voyeurism it was very poorly implemented.
Imo.

last edited at Feb 19, 2023 7:47AM

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joined Jul 29, 2017

All the angst here about the intrusion of the classmate and the logistics of her anal self-pleasuring seem to ignore just how literally sketchy and spontaneous (I was going to say “tossed-off,” but decided against it) the story has been from the beginning—the dashed-off art and the text-only transitions indicate that this isn’t supposed to be a completely plausible narrative set in fully realized storyworld. The story looks like it’s just a fast-food delivery container for scenes that the mangaka wants to draw.

I suspect that this story serves as the mangaka’s relief valve for all the serious NSFW impulses bottled up from Virgin’s Empire. Sometimes an author’s work isn’t primarily for you, it’s for them.

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joined Sep 27, 2017

It was a sudden and out of place as if the next chapter was all 3 of them going to a boys school for a gangbang.

I definitely wouldn't say that, since introducing hetero and a hetero gangbang at that would have pissed off even more people, and made people potentially hate the author. As it is right now people just don't like the direction this took, but these forums would have gotten way more intense if it went the route you're saying.

All the angst here about the intrusion of the classmate and the logistics of her anal self-pleasuring seem to ignore just how literally sketchy and spontaneous (I was going to say “tossed-off,” but decided against it) the story has been from the beginning—the dashed-off art and the text-only transitions indicate that this isn’t supposed to be a completely plausible narrative set in fully realized storyworld. The story looks like it’s just a fast-food delivery container for scenes that the mangaka wants to draw.

I suspect that this story serves as the mangaka’s relief valve for all the serious NSFW impulses bottled up from Virgin’s Empire. Sometimes an author’s work isn’t primarily for you, it’s for them.

Yeah I think that's the thing, this seems like a quick and dirty comic where author is making something smutty that they want to draw. As for the pacing I think this is supposed to (probably at least) be a short more porn focused comic than anything professional or serious.

All of this said though I personally don't like the addition of the 3rd character, and I wish if anything her phrasing would have been more "since you the two of you came here to have sex, is it okay if I watch?", something less forceful where she can be invited into the dynamic. I also would have liked a somewhat more long term series focusing on the original two characters, with more natural pacing. So I don't even disagree with the critiques for the most part. I just figure a series like that probably wasn't the creator's intent to begin with, and I guess at this point my main hope is that the new character doesn't commit worse and worse acts. We'll see how it goes though.

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joined Jul 29, 2017

All of this said though I personally don't like the addition of the 3rd character, and I wish if anything her phrasing would have been more "since you the two of you came here to have sex, is it okay if I watch?", something less forceful where she can be invited into the dynamic. I also would have liked a somewhat more long term series focusing on the original two characters, with more natural pacing. So I don't even disagree with the critiques for the most part. I just figure a series like that probably wasn't the creator's intent to begin with, and I guess at this point my main hope is that the new character doesn't commit worse and worse acts. We'll see how it goes though.

To tell the truth, I was a bit surprised that the the initial reaction to the first chapters didn’t include many (maybe none?) of the standard Dynasty forum “this is wrong in real life so therefore it is wrong” moral objections. On the contrary, most people were of the “this is cute and hot” faction. I personally agree that the first chapters were cute and hot, and I too would have preferred a development other than the blackmailing third-party.

I do think it’s kind of remarkable that the addition of that third-party to a scene of a teacher having sex with a student in a bathroom stall is seen as an otherwise pleasing story “going off the rails,” however.

last edited at Feb 19, 2023 12:22PM

Purple Library Guy
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joined Mar 3, 2013

I have this feeling that Kishi sensei has been doing all PG-13 in Vigins' Empire, restraining the impulse to get sexy, for so long they just can't hack it any more, and in this it's all spilling out uncontrolled.

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joined Sep 27, 2017

I have this feeling that Kishi sensei has been doing all PG-13 in Vigins' Empire, restraining the impulse to get sexy, for so long they just can't hack it any more, and in this it's all spilling out uncontrolled.

Which in fairness I think it's at least semi-common for mangaka and artists in general to do some smut work on the side. Various famous cartoonists and comic artists in the West are known for drawing sex stuff on the side as well.

Lojsdbe
joined Sep 16, 2019

All the angst here about the intrusion of the classmate and the logistics of her anal self-pleasuring seem to ignore just how literally sketchy and spontaneous (I was going to say “tossed-off,” but decided against it) the story has been from the beginning—the dashed-off art and the text-only transitions indicate that this isn’t supposed to be a completely plausible narrative set in fully realized storyworld. The story looks like it’s just a fast-food delivery container for scenes that the mangaka wants to draw.

I suspect that this story serves as the mangaka’s relief valve for all the serious NSFW impulses bottled up from Virgin’s Empire. Sometimes an author’s work isn’t primarily for you, it’s for them.

Even if the work is low effort and primarily for the author, that doesn’t make it immune from comment. If you put a work out to the public, they are allowed to comment on it, and if that work takes the form of a story, then they are allowed to talk about the pacing feeling off or the sudden insertion of a third character taking away their enjoyment.

last edited at Feb 19, 2023 1:40PM

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joined Jul 29, 2017

All the angst here about the intrusion of the classmate and the logistics of her anal self-pleasuring seem to ignore just how literally sketchy and spontaneous (I was going to say “tossed-off,” but decided against it) the story has been from the beginning—the dashed-off art and the text-only transitions indicate that this isn’t supposed to be a completely plausible narrative set in fully realized storyworld. The story looks like it’s just a fast-food delivery container for scenes that the mangaka wants to draw.

I suspect that this story serves as the mangaka’s relief valve for all the serious NSFW impulses bottled up from Virgin’s Empire. Sometimes an author’s work isn’t primarily for you, it’s for them.

Even if the work is low effort and primarily for the author, that doesn’t make it immune from comment. If you put a work out to the public, they are allowed to comment on it, and if that work takes the form of a story, then they are allowed to talk about the pacing feeling off or the sudden insertion of a third character taking away their enjoyment.

Who said anything about “allowing” or “disallowing” anything?

All I did was point out that people were commenting as if the story was one thing while to all appearances it’s another kind of thing.

last edited at Feb 19, 2023 3:06PM

joined Jan 14, 2020

I was just laughing most of the chapter. Katsuragi was at least trying to be discreet, using her body to obscure what was going on. New girl's just fingering herself at the wall of the gym, so ridiculous.

Palucina1
joined May 26, 2020

Turns out, back in high school, I was doing Gym Class ALL WRONG!

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joined Jul 18, 2020

that girl is just full on leaning over her own hand blissing out during gym class, not even trying to hide it lmao

the more implausible this gets the better tbh. this is absolutely pure fantasy, the rules of romance and reality need not apply. hell, let’s aim for a full-class orgy, get your money’s worth, go big or go home

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joined Sep 23, 2022

Sensei and Katsuragi-san out here trying to be discreet but you got this girl shoving her arm down her shorts in the open, lmao. Even if all she's doing is watching, I can't wait to see how things are going to turned out cause I'm not gonna lie I got excited when they got caught and enjoy seeing sensei freak out a bit. (⁄ ⁄•⁄ω⁄•⁄ ⁄)

joined Jul 13, 2021

Man I miss when Virgin's Empire actually showed nips back in the day. Wish we could get that stuff again nowadays. Clearly Kishi wants to go all out, but can't. Sucks.

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joined May 28, 2021

Another real sexy chapter. Sensei has a knack for steamy masturbation scenes.

Palucina1
joined May 26, 2020

I don't remember being quite that horny in high school. Then again, I did erase many of my high school memories with a wire brush.

Slime
joined Feb 22, 2023

Remember this?
https://dynasty-scans.com/system/releases/000/038/562/VE_265_Credits.png
Amazing Chads, they predicted perfectly the continuation of the story! It wasn't Yuu-chan, it was some other shy bitch, but barring that they were right on the money!

joined Feb 1, 2013

Heads up, Kishi updated his Fanbox. While it is sadly not the next part of Katsuragi and Sensei it is a new story of three female friends having a spicy time together.

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joined Apr 1, 2015

Yo Chimeko!
Any chance it's a follow up to this?
https://dynasty-scans.com/chapters/boyishboyish

joined Feb 1, 2013

No this is a new story, the ladies are more on the feminine side in this story. A shortened free version is up on his pixiv account if you want to see but to see all the good stuff you have to support him on Fanbox or wait for the inevitable translations.

Magnum
joined Dec 2, 2016

I like to think that Yasudou was giving high-fives to every one after she was done with her butt and pussy. That makes me smile...

Weiwei
joined Oct 9, 2017

holy shes dextrous and strong. doing that with your hands behind your back?! Color me impressed.

That's what I thought haha. It hurts pretty fast in that position

AutumnWaterXIII
joined May 29, 2022

Glasses the kinkiest one of all

AutumnWaterXIII
joined May 29, 2022

Glasses the kinkiest one of all

AdmiralDanger
joined May 3, 2021

God I wish this would continue

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