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joined Feb 17, 2013

Wait wait, are they actually together?

Also what was happening in the last page, I don’t really get it?

No way to tell - she can dream they were GFs and she broke up with her without them actually being so- as we've seen in that other series! And Miyoshi can comfort her and say she'd never do that in the sense of- 'it we were dating i'd never break up with you!' and say she loves her etc without them being dating..

But it all equally makes sense from the perspective of them being dating. That just doesn't fit with everything else we know about them so far- unless they suddenly jumped to GFs off page.. but that seems unlikely imo..

So I cant see this as firm proof they are..

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joined Feb 5, 2020

themajoritylied
joined Dec 7, 2017

Wait was this a parody chapter?? I don't remember seeing the art elsewhere, but the cursing and general dialogue seems more like the end chapter jokes the Chads make...not to mention they're not even together (unless it was a dream within a dream? Dreamception??)...

themajoritylied
joined Dec 7, 2017

Blax posted:

You sure the whole mini wasn't written by Chad ? Lol

I asked myself the same. And I'm the Head Chad...
No april's fools today!

Wait, for reals? I was so sure it was a parody, especially with the unusual dialogue style...

Now I'm really hoping the author didn't just pull the same BS he did with Kanae and Haruka (i.e. having everything happen offscreen)...it was bad enough with those two, but for basically the biggest Ross-Rachel couple in this series, that'd be pretty inexcusable.

For now I'm just thoroughly confused. There are too many issues with this mini for me to even name...the ONLY way I can rationalize it is if Ayano dreamed they were dating and broke up, then called Miyoshi, who was too tired to remember they're not actually dating and just went into apologetic boyfriend mode on autopilot.

But then the whole scene with Chie afterwards seems really out of character regardless...maybe it was the author himself pulling an April Fools' type thing?

last edited at Feb 2, 2023 9:19PM

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joined Feb 3, 2021

I don't think they're together, Miyoshi is just out of it and mostly asleep and going along with whatever Ayano is saying to comfort her. She's not really thinking about what she's saying so it's probably a lot of subconscious thoughts and phrases to help her settle down from her nightmare. I can remember my ex having full on conversations after "waking up" and not remembering a word the next morning.

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joined Aug 19, 2015

"Our Yuri Started with Me Getting Rejected in a Dream"

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joined Aug 16, 2018

Wait wait, are they actually together?

Nope, Miyoshi is talking to Ayano the way you talk to your bff. In Japan, at least.

For a Japanese person, talking like that to somebody you're actually dating would be completely out of the question. Too embarrassing. But if your bestie calls you in the middle of the night, bawling about a dream where you didn't like her anymore, it's a-okay to swear eternal love to her and promise to make her your wife.

Also what was happening in the last page, I don’t really get it?

My educated guess is that Miyoshi couldn't go back to sleep after Ayano's call; so, lacking anything better to do, she called Ai and asked her if she would do for Chie all the things Miyoshi had claimed she would do for Ayano. And I'm guessing Ai said she wouldn't want to share a grave with Chie—prompting Miyoshi to immediately call Chie and rat out Ai as a fickle and disloyal lover. Lol, poor Ai. (⁀ ᗢ⁀)

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joined Aug 21, 2020

I read "broke up with her" and was like "WHAT, THEY WERE GOING OUT?" but I suppose it's simply an advanced level of interaction that Ayano and Miyoshi have ascended to.

Immediately calling your girl up when you have a dream like that though. Imagine if Tsukihi had that kind of initiative lol.

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joined Jun 23, 2020

Good series

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I've totally done the same to my bff tbh.

Tron-legacy
joined Dec 11, 2017

No way to tell - she can dream they were GFs and she broke up with her without them actually being so- as we've seen in that other series! And Miyoshi can comfort her and say she'd never do that in the sense of- 'it we were dating i'd never break up with you!' and say she loves her etc without them being dating..

But it all equally makes sense from the perspective of them being dating. That just doesn't fit with everything else we know about them so far- unless they suddenly jumped to GFs off page.. but that seems unlikely imo..

So I cant see this as firm proof they are..

Friends can also go through break-ups. I know it's more common to use the term for romantic partners (If for no other reason than because friends are less likely to hinge the whole relationship on one single argument or disagreement) but it does happen.

Tron-legacy
joined Dec 11, 2017

I don't think they're together, Miyoshi is just out of it and mostly asleep and going along with whatever Ayano is saying to comfort her. She's not really thinking about what she's saying so it's probably a lot of subconscious thoughts and phrases to help her settle down from her nightmare. I can remember my ex having full on conversations after "waking up" and not remembering a word the next morning.

I got a call once from the secretary of our department at my job, and apparently had a whole conversation where I actually came to after a couple of minutes. To this day I don't actually know what we talked about, but I still have my job, so presumably it wasn't anything too incriminating.

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joined May 20, 2018

I only read Ayano x Miyoshi so I'm really happy when two chapters release in a row!

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joined May 12, 2020

"Our Yuri Started with Me Getting Rejected in a Dream"

God I fucking wish. Poor Ayano cant catch a break even in her dreams. And the worse thing is that Miyoshi has dreams being banged by Ayano. Meanwhile Ayano just gets fucked over by the universe.

joined Jun 11, 2016

omfg these two will get married, adopt a child, live together happily till 80s and still insist that they're just friends.

They deserve the Useless lesbians tag for real

Tron-legacy
joined Dec 11, 2017

Y'know, I actually think the point of the conversation at the end is that in her half asleep stupor, Miyoshi forgets that she was talking to Ayano, and calls Ai to say "Hey I proposed to your GF we cool?" at which point Ai said "Of course not!" and Miyoshi calls Chie "back" to say they aren't allowed to get married, at which point Miyoshi is like "Wait, what?"

So Ayano is deliriously happy while Miyoshi is, as is her norm, completely oblivious.

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joined Sep 1, 2021

Blax posted:

Now I'm really hoping the author didn't just pull the same BS he did with Kanae and Haruka (i.e. having everything happen offscreen)...it was bad enough with those two, but for basically the biggest Ross-Rachel couple in this series, that'd be pretty inexcusable.

What happened offscreen with Kanae/Haruka? They're my favorite couple and I'm pretty sure everything has been upfront. We haven't seen them kiss, but there's no indication they've done so offscreen, either. They seem to be at a relatively innocent stage with each other at the moment (i.e. simple hand holding and physical closeness).

last edited at Feb 5, 2023 6:18PM

themajoritylied
joined Dec 7, 2017

Wait wait, are they actually together?

Nope, Miyoshi is talking to Ayano the way you talk to your bff. In Japan, at least.

For a Japanese person, talking like that to somebody you're actually dating would be completely out of the question. Too embarrassing. But if your bestie calls you in the middle of the night, bawling about a dream where you didn't like her anymore, it's a-okay to swear eternal love to her and promise to make her your wife.

Also what was happening in the last page, I don’t really get it?

My educated guess is that Miyoshi couldn't go back to sleep after Ayano's call; so, lacking anything better to do, she called Ai and asked her if she would do for Chie all the things Miyoshi had claimed she would do for Ayano. And I'm guessing Ai said she wouldn't want to share a grave with Chie—prompting Miyoshi to immediately call Chie and rat out Ai as a fickle and disloyal lover. Lol, poor Ai. (⁀ ᗢ⁀)

Thanks for clarifying the situation a bit- I figured it was unlikely anything ACTUALLY changed in their relationship, that it was just one of those dreams that feels real (like when you're BFFs with some random person from your childhood, for example), but the dialogue and the big at the end with Chie and Ai threw me off, lol. I think your explanation is probably pretty spot on, haha- barring that, I'd like the think the author knows better than to have THESE TWO get together conveniently offscreen, lol.

themajoritylied
joined Dec 7, 2017

"Our Yuri Started with Me Getting Rejected in a Dream"

I got that reference xD

joined Dec 7, 2017

"Our Yuri Started with Me Getting Rejected in a Dream"

God I fucking wish. Poor Ayano cant catch a break even in her dreams. And the worse thing is that Miyoshi has dreams being banged by Ayano. Meanwhile Ayano just gets fucked over by the universe.

Lol that's a pretty apt summary xD

I feel like a big issue is also that Ayano probably wants to be confessed to. I don't know why, but just seeing them interact, their dynamic...I feel like she probably wants Miyoshi to figure it out and ask her out/confess to her. Even when she's told Miyoshi she loves her, it's never really in a 'confession' manner (or it's done while Miyoshi's unconscious). Meanwhile Miyoshi is the type of person to either a) never catch on to her own feelings, let alone Ayano's, b) assume ALL best friends do these things/feel these things for each other, or c) assume they're already dating and not feel the need to clarify.

Which, imo, is how we've reached this impasse. These two really codify the whole 'unstoppable force/immovable object' trope, and I honestly can't tell which way it's going to go. Though it seems like ANYTHING Ayano tries (up to and not limited to full-on tongue kissing) will be somehow misinterpreted, so I think it'll have to come down to Miyoshi having an epiphany in some way, shape or form.

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joined Aug 19, 2015

"Our Yuri Started with Me Getting Rejected in a Dream"

I got that reference xD

//blush//

I also agree that Ayano probably wants to be confessed to primarily because she still doesn't fully grasp where Miyoshi stands. We're all thinking it's inevitable but when you've been close and touchy for a long-time, it's hard to break the tension and see if it could be more. Every time Miyoshi shows some affection that seems like she wants to be more than friends, we see Ayano light up but Miyoshi always does something a bit dumb that sets it back. I bet Ayano would take the initiative if they just had one of those moments again with Miyoshi letting the moment breathe without joking.

The credits page in the latest chap is gold. Onibi is still goated and building her polycule foundation.

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joined May 20, 2013

Leeegs <3

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joined May 28, 2021

The figure four leglock is a legit finishing maneuver, these two aren't messing around :O

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joined Dec 9, 2021

Now it's getting kinky....so we have our second sado maso couple?

Onee2
joined Apr 28, 2022

Mask been watching old school Rick Flair matches huh.

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