Every time I get the names of the friends straight, a volume break comes along and then I proceed to forget which one is which.

Sounds like a good excuse to re-read the whole thing from the beginning!

Glad it's back, but isn't the art I'll different mainly the eyes or it's just me.

About ch105:
Dude. We've come a long way, ok? 100+ chapters, and she's insanely, embarassed and disgusted because she sNIFFED on her gf's tracksuit. Just SNIFF, DUDE!! I'm not even trying to criticize it, I'm just dead shocked.

Daaaaw getting all lovey dovey in public places ^_^ Living together in tokyo makes way too much sense not to happen at this point. I just hope we'll get to at least see it a little and not just in a '' last few pages of the series epilogue'' sort of way (^^)

There's something vaguely melancholic about that second chapter, but both of them are sweet, especially the studying in the library. Go for it, Nanoha.

Small typo in chap 111:
"well... to time study" -> "well... time to study"

I’m really hoping this progresses on to their lives in college, a la futaribeya. There’s content there. Even if it is just until they finally come out to their parents and friends.

this story is like an abusive relationship... You KNOW it won't get better. You know that for each step they progress in a chapter, they'll go back on it that much more in the next. It's been 110 chapters... 110 chapters with the "we won't tell anyone because reasons" Shtick... Yet, like any abusive relationship, I struggle to let it go, and I go back into it, only to find that it did not change, and it's still the same. GOD DAMN IT JUST TELL THEM ALREADY!

I fail to understand some people's obsession with them coming out. It's their lives, their relationship, when they come out is their business, leave them alone wtf.

Also, they're progressing a lot as a couple, how about focusing on that instead?

Anw I hope she chooses to go to Tokyo.

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Small typo in chap 111:
"well... to time study" -> "well... time to study"

Thanks, should be fixed now.

She thought they could apart after graduation?

I fail to understand some people's obsession with them coming out. It's their lives, their relationship, when they come out is their business, leave them alone wtf.

It's easier to have a healthy relationship when you're not trying to hide it from friends and family.

I fail to understand some people's obsession with them coming out. It's their lives, their relationship, when they come out is their business, leave them alone wtf.

It's easier to have a healthy relationship when you're not trying to hide it from friends and family.

it's easiest to have a healthy relationship if you are characters whose author writes you into a healthy relationship

Chidori seems almost irrationally afraid of people finding out she’s gay. She never lets Nanoha even touch her in public just because she’s afraid someone might conceivably think they’re gay. Her fear seems really set in deep. I just don’t think it’s realistic to expect her to suddenly get over that fear one day and come out. Girl needs group therapy or something.
While it’s true that this isn’t the ideal state to be in for a relationship, Nanoha seems content with it, and really, it’s up to her to leave if she can’t deal with Chidori’s problem.

It's easier to have a healthy relationship when you're not trying to hide it from friends and family.

And how is their relationship unhealthy, exactly? I’m genuinely curious, because I just don’t see it.

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I fail to understand some people's obsession with them coming out. It's their lives, their relationship, when they come out is their business, leave them alone wtf.

It's easier to have a healthy relationship when you're not trying to hide it from friends and family.

Blastaar's own comment aside (they've got a point), it's not always easier for people to come out unfortunately. Their current perspective tells them it's safer for the two of them to keep going in secret until they can free themselves from some of the risk they believe their relationship carries at home. I have some personal experience with this, it was only after I left that I was able to come out. Maybe things will change when/if they both go to Tokyo.

Chapter 112: Interesting conundrum: ditch high school girl because aspirations don’t match or change majors to stay with “the Only One”? In this manga—they’ll stay together. IRL, thanks for the memories… moving on.

Edit: Blastaar’s comment was funny on a couple levels.

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Chapter 112: Interesting conundrum: ditch high school girl because aspirations don’t match or change majors to stay with “the Only One”? In this manga—they’ll stay together. IRL, thanks for the memories… moving on.

Edit: Blastaar’s comment was funny on a couple levels.

Except she'd do the same thing whether she stays or goes to Tokyo. She's gonna learn patisserie either way, it's just that before she assumed she'd stay at home since the kinda school she'll go to is already closely available so there was no need to think about moving until now.

Small typo in chap 111:
"well... to time study" -> "well... time to study"

??? Didn't you just read it wrong?

Small typo in chap 111:
"well... to time study" -> "well... time to study"

??? Didn't you just read it wrong?

It was corrected since that was posted, so you're likely reading the corrected version.

Making plans. ^_^

^_^

Chapter 112: Interesting conundrum: ditch high school girl because aspirations don’t match or change majors to stay with “the Only One”? In this manga—they’ll stay together. IRL, thanks for the memories… moving on.

Edit: Blastaar’s comment was funny on a couple levels.

Except she'd do the same thing whether she stays or goes to Tokyo. She's gonna learn patisserie either way, it's just that before she assumed she'd stay at home since the kinda school she'll go to is already closely available so there was no need to think about moving until now.

Well, yeah, the romance-manga trope is that each person in a couple has to decide where they're going after high school, and the "romantic" choice is to be together.

I get the impression, though, that in Japan Tokyo is the magnet for aspiring young people in a way that isn't necessarily the case in the US or in Europe (and I definitely get that impression about Seoul in Korea). As Nanoha points outs, she has a handful of school choices in her region, but exponentially more potential schools in Tokyo.

In other words, for people from the provinces, the choice is between staying near home and getting an OK education/professional preparation or going to Tokyo for the big(ger) time start in life. But in the US that "bigger time" might be New York, but it might also be Chicago, or LA, or any number of other places depending on an individual's ambitions.

Chapter 112: Interesting conundrum: ditch high school girl because aspirations don’t match or change majors to stay with “the Only One”? In this manga—they’ll stay together. IRL, thanks for the memories… moving on.

Edit: Blastaar’s comment was funny on a couple levels.

Except she'd do the same thing whether she stays or goes to Tokyo. She's gonna learn patisserie either way, it's just that before she assumed she'd stay at home since the kinda school she'll go to is already closely available so there was no need to think about moving until now.

Well, yeah, the romance-manga trope is that each person in a couple has to decide where they're going after high school, and the "romantic" choice is to be together.

I get the impression, though, that in Japan Tokyo is the magnet for aspiring young people in a way that isn't necessarily the case in the US or in Europe (and I definitely get that impression about Seoul in Korea). As Nanoha points outs, she has a handful of school choices in her region, but exponentially more potential schools in Tokyo.

In other words, for people from the provinces, the choice is between staying near home and getting an OK education/professional preparation or going to Tokyo for the big(ger) time start in life. But in the US that "bigger time" might be New York, but it might also be Chicago, or LA, or any number of other places depending on an individual's ambitions.

Having spent time in both France and England, I'd add that it's pretty much the same with Paris and London. There's a very definite ''the capital vs the rest'' mindset. I guess it's more of a thing in smaller countries (in the geographical sense, not the population) .

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In one of her later books, Jane Jacobs wrote about the tendency of the biggest city to get even bigger.

And yeah, Tokyo has been growing in population despite Japan's overall shrinkage. (And has kept housing prices stable despite the growth. Vs. places like San Francisco which triples in price while barely growing...)

Kojiro481 posted:

Chapter 112: Interesting conundrum: ditch high school girl because aspirations don’t match or change majors to stay with “the Only One”? In this manga—they’ll stay together. IRL, thanks for the memories… moving on.

Edit: Blastaar’s comment was funny on a couple levels.

Except she'd do the same thing whether she stays or goes to Tokyo. She's gonna learn patisserie either way, it's just that before she assumed she'd stay at home since the kinda school she'll go to is already closely available so there was no need to think about moving until now.

Well, yeah, the romance-manga trope is that each person in a couple has to decide where they're going after high school, and the "romantic" choice is to be together.

I get the impression, though, that in Japan Tokyo is the magnet for aspiring young people in a way that isn't necessarily the case in the US or in Europe (and I definitely get that impression about Seoul in Korea). As Nanoha points outs, she has a handful of school choices in her region, but exponentially more potential schools in Tokyo.

In other words, for people from the provinces, the choice is between staying near home and getting an OK education/professional preparation or going to Tokyo for the big(ger) time start in life. But in the US that "bigger time" might be New York, but it might also be Chicago, or LA, or any number of other places depending on an individual's ambitions.

Having spent time in both France and England, I'd add that it's pretty much the same with Paris and London. There's a very definite ''the capital vs the rest'' mindset. I guess it's more of a thing in smaller countries (in the geographical sense, not the population) .

I don't know that I'd call Japan or France small. Japan is about the same size as the entire west coast of the US. California takes up about half that area and if it were its own country, it'd still rank in the top 40 or 50 countries by territory. France is roughly the same size as Texas which is similar in size to California. The UK would be the best one for what you said, though it's still fairly close in size to France.

Bonus comparison between all of Europe and the US:

Kojiro481 posted:

Chapter 112: Interesting conundrum: ditch high school girl because aspirations don’t match or change majors to stay with “the Only One”? In this manga—they’ll stay together. IRL, thanks for the memories… moving on.

Edit: Blastaar’s comment was funny on a couple levels.

Except she'd do the same thing whether she stays or goes to Tokyo. She's gonna learn patisserie either way, it's just that before she assumed she'd stay at home since the kinda school she'll go to is already closely available so there was no need to think about moving until now.

Well, yeah, the romance-manga trope is that each person in a couple has to decide where they're going after high school, and the "romantic" choice is to be together.

I get the impression, though, that in Japan Tokyo is the magnet for aspiring young people in a way that isn't necessarily the case in the US or in Europe (and I definitely get that impression about Seoul in Korea). As Nanoha points outs, she has a handful of school choices in her region, but exponentially more potential schools in Tokyo.

In other words, for people from the provinces, the choice is between staying near home and getting an OK education/professional preparation or going to Tokyo for the big(ger) time start in life. But in the US that "bigger time" might be New York, but it might also be Chicago, or LA, or any number of other places depending on an individual's ambitions.

Having spent time in both France and England, I'd add that it's pretty much the same with Paris and London. There's a very definite ''the capital vs the rest'' mindset. I guess it's more of a thing in smaller countries (in the geographical sense, not the population) .

I don't know that I'd call Japan or France small. Japan is about the same size as the entire west coast of the US. California takes up about half that area and if it were its own country, it'd still rank in the top 40 or 50 countries by territory. France is roughly the same size as Texas which is similar in size to California. The UK would be the best one for what you said, though it's still fairly close in size to France.

[Snip mostly irrelevant data.] OK, so maybe the "capital and then the rest" syndrome isn't a function of being a "small" country, according to those who want to quibble about what a "small" country is (and who don't take into account how much of Japan's geographical area is unavailable for dense human population).

But since the issue at hand is cultural focus rather than measurements of topographical area, the "capital and then the rest" certainly does seem to be heavily reflected in Japanese popular culture, and both halves of a high-school couple deciding to continue their lives in the Tokyo area specifically resonates very differently than would, say, two teenagers in the US deciding to go off to New York City.

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