This just became really frustrating, at this point we will have 3+ volumes of pointless and forced drama, is this freaking Citrus or what?

DAMMIT YORI! ENOUGH ABOUT THE WHOLE I WANT THE FIRST KISS TO BE SPECIAL THING, THE MOOD WAS RIGHT! THE MOOD WAS DEFINITELY RIGHT!

I think Yori didn't want to do the kiss while feeling jealous more than anything...which wouldn't be really an issue...if she'd communicate how she really felt with Himari. I'd argue Yori could have taken a moment to say "wait, I need to say something", followed by a discussion of how Yori has actually been feeling jealous. Then if the mood is still right they kiss. Which would have been a nice way to get a good sense of relationship progress this chapter, but instead there's no kiss, and Yori is still bottling up her jealously...and it's unfortunately frustrating. Especially when I feel like the author is capable of writing good character communication. I kind of wonder if the editor stepped in and asked for more drama, but that's baseless speculation and only a thought of mine.

Edit:

This just became really frustrating, at this point we will have 3+ volumes of pointless and forced drama, is this freaking Citrus or what?

Well it is the same magazine as Citrus, which I know publishes other series, but it's part of why I said the bit about the editor in my first response in this post.

last edited at Mar 13, 2022 10:33PM

DAMMIT YORI! ENOUGH ABOUT THE WHOLE I WANT THE FIRST KISS TO BE SPECIAL THING, THE MOOD WAS RIGHT! THE MOOD WAS DEFINITELY RIGHT!

Not really in a great mood today so I can't even try to antagonize this series in an over-the-top manner for shits and giggles since this just became completely bland and boring, but should still mention that the mood was pretty much not alright. With Yori having the doubts that she has and the obvious lack of communicative skills, getting a first kiss in that way could very easily lead to a relationship formed only around physical intimacy and absolutely no mutual trust in each other. And while it would be honestly kind of awesome to see a series depict the kind of drama that I lived first-hand years ago, I've been hating this second half way too much to even expect for this to delve into that kind of problem with any sort of sensibility.

But I'm rambling, this series is trash regardless and physical intimacy without a proper functional relationship should be avoided imo, unless you just want the physical aspect of it, in which case it would be very much okay I guess.

Thanks to the team though, as much as I hate this it's fun to have a periodic rage-induced aneurysm and their work is always great.

Maybe the "special" is the summer festival arc?

DAMMIT YORI! ENOUGH ABOUT THE WHOLE I WANT THE FIRST KISS TO BE SPECIAL THING, THE MOOD WAS RIGHT! THE MOOD WAS DEFINITELY RIGHT!

I think Yori didn't want to do the kiss while feeling jealous more than anything...which wouldn't be really an issue...if she'd communicate how she really felt with Himari. I'd argue Yori could have taken a moment to say "wait, I need to say something", followed by a discussion of how Yori has actually been feeling jealous. Then if the mood is still right they kiss. Which would have been a nice way to get a good sense of relationship progress this chapter, but instead there's no kiss, and Yori is still bottling up her jealously...and it's unfortunately frustrating. Especially when I feel like the author is capable of writing good character communication. I kind of wonder if the editor stepped in and asked for more drama, but that's baseless speculation and only a thought of mine.

Edit:

This just became really frustrating, at this point we will have 3+ volumes of pointless and forced drama, is this freaking Citrus or what?

Well it is the same magazine as Citrus, which I know publishes other series, but it's part of why I said the bit about the editor in my first response in this post.

I mean, I guess? Maybe not the perfect time but Yori is worried about the relationship, she's concerned that Himi is spending too much time in the enemy camp and not enough time with her.
She also doesn't like that tangential rival girl might be landing some of Himi's firsts and Yori can't abide that.
A kiss at this juncture could be the thing to reaffirm their relationship and their intimacy and is something that Himi specifically asked for.
Sure, it won't solve all their relationship woes and they need to have the conversation (not the conversation™) at some point but at least a kiss in this moment could at least simmer things down.
Putting it off till a specific point of time gives it a chance to go wrong.
I feel like with fireworks like there's a 60 to 70 percent chance in manga terms of something else coming along and cocking the whole thing up. Better to have it done now while there is a bit of mood going and no outside interference.

Also, like, I'm sick of the whole I've gotta be the first mentality that I see all the fucking time in manga and anime and vns. It always has like a real gross kinda vibe attached to it like a chick or a dude who has already had a first is like a soiled rag.

At first it was because of Shiho, but now I'm not sure why but I seem to have lost interest in this. It's trying to be cute while maintaining some kind of dramatic tension with the jealousy, but it feels messy, like neither part is getting its due. The karaoke scene in the latest chapter didn't make me frustrated or tense or interested, I just felt bored.

Honestly this. The constant flipping between the serious text with black speech bubbles and the sparkling page where the characters have a moment of tension was so off-putting that it almost felt intentional, like some weird form of parody, which would honestly be hilarious, but its not parody, and just comes off as sloppy, like the author has lost a lot of passion for this series and is just trying to make their deadlines

DAMMIT YORI! ENOUGH ABOUT THE WHOLE I WANT THE FIRST KISS TO BE SPECIAL THING, THE MOOD WAS RIGHT! THE MOOD WAS DEFINITELY RIGHT!

I think Yori didn't want to do the kiss while feeling jealous more than anything...which wouldn't be really an issue...if she'd communicate how she really felt with Himari. I'd argue Yori could have taken a moment to say "wait, I need to say something", followed by a discussion of how Yori has actually been feeling jealous. Then if the mood is still right they kiss. Which would have been a nice way to get a good sense of relationship progress this chapter, but instead there's no kiss, and Yori is still bottling up her jealously...and it's unfortunately frustrating. Especially when I feel like the author is capable of writing good character communication. I kind of wonder if the editor stepped in and asked for more drama, but that's baseless speculation and only a thought of mine.

Edit:

This just became really frustrating, at this point we will have 3+ volumes of pointless and forced drama, is this freaking Citrus or what?

Well it is the same magazine as Citrus, which I know publishes other series, but it's part of why I said the bit about the editor in my first response in this post.

I mean, I guess? Maybe not the perfect time but Yori is worried about the relationship, she's concerned that Himi is spending too much time in the enemy camp and not enough time with her.
She also doesn't like that tangential rival girl might be landing some of Himi's firsts and Yori can't abide that.
A kiss at this juncture could be the thing to reaffirm their relationship and their intimacy and is something that Himi specifically asked for.
Sure, it won't solve all their relationship woes and they need to have the conversation (not the conversation™) at some point but at least a kiss in this moment could at least simmer things down.
Putting it off till a specific point of time gives it a chance to go wrong.
I feel like with fireworks like there's a 60 to 70 percent chance in manga terms of something else coming along and cocking the whole thing up. Better to have it done now while there is a bit of mood going and no outside interference.

Also, like, I'm sick of the whole I've gotta be the first mentality that I see all the fucking time in manga and anime and vns. It always has like a real gross kinda vibe attached to it like a chick or a dude who has already had a first is like a soiled rag.

I agree that the mentality around "firsts" is weird, but I also see it in Western culture and so fourth, the whole concept of Virginity and it's importance is big around the world. A factor in various religious and other beliefs, but I'm not going to get into that here. "Tore your hymen while you were just casually horse back riding? Guess you're a whore now", as only one example of the absurdity you'll see in the world. It's definitely a global thing and not just Japan with VNs/Anime/Manga and so fourth.

Also as I said previously, they need to have a proper talk before kissing. Which they could have done in this chapter, AND had the kiss after if handled well. I agree with "Epsilon04" about their mutual trust issues that need to be talked about first.

I’ve reached the point where I just skim and don’t really read the dialogue anymore and just see if something like a kiss happens. I feel like I’m teetering on the edge of falling off this one. A shame, since I used to like it.

Admittedly, in a perfect world she'd be right to maybe slow down and think about things. Why she's jealous, why she's frustrated, and why she doesn't talk about these things openly. Unfortunately this is not a perfect world and it's about firsts.

But they're going to fireworks and I'm sure that'll create something special between them, because that is the cliche and y'know what?

I gobble that shit up

Man, I stopped reading this manga when that Shiho character appeared and thinking of picking up again, but after reading some of the newer comments I'm not so sure if I want to. She's the whole reason I dropped it and it seems like she's still an annoying character.

Man, I stopped reading this manga when that Shiho character appeared and thinking of picking up again, but after reading some of the newer comments I'm not so sure if I want to. She's the whole reason I dropped it and it seems like she's still an annoying character.

Personally I'm hoping this arc ends within the next 10 chapters, and they move on to something better than this drama revolving around Shiho.

Man, I stopped reading this manga when that Shiho character appeared and thinking of picking up again, but after reading some of the newer comments I'm not so sure if I want to. She's the whole reason I dropped it and it seems like she's still an annoying character.

Personally I'm hoping this arc ends within the next 10 chapters, and they move on to something better than this drama revolving around Shiho.

The next 10 chapters is a third of what's already out. That's a hell of a long time on this arc.

Man, I stopped reading this manga when that Shiho character appeared and thinking of picking up again, but after reading some of the newer comments I'm not so sure if I want to. She's the whole reason I dropped it and it seems like she's still an annoying character.

Personally I'm hoping this arc ends within the next 10 chapters, and they move on to something better than this drama revolving around Shiho.

The next 10 chapters is a third of what's already out. That's a hell of a long time on this arc.

Oh I'd love for it to be over right now, but it doesn't feel like the end of this arc is anywhere in sight unfortunately. So I'm trying to manage my expectations heh

The turn to drama and jealousy has actually made this series considerably less boring to me. It feels a bit less generic. I’ve never understood the abundant praise this story used to get, it never really seemed all that special. While this angst is hardly original, its at least interesting (to me), which i can’t really say about how this series started out.

Also Shiho is an awful person, duh, but that’s what makes her interesting to read about.

If the story isn’t going in the direction you wanted it to, my sincere condolences, hope you find something more to your taste, but I am finally starting to like this.

last edited at Mar 14, 2022 2:08AM

I’ve never understood the abundant praise this story used to get, it never really seemed all that special.

Same, this series has never managed to crack even my top 5 ongoing Yuri. The art is good and it’s solid, but idk it’s always felt like it’s missing that one thing to really spice it up.

I’m clearly in the minority that likes Shiho, but even I’ll admit if feels like we’ve been building up to the school festival band competition for an eternity. This is the only series I’m currently keeping up with that I just can’t remember any details about the plot, damn near every chapter feels like nothing gets accomplished

even though its a slow burn I love these cute chapters of their dates together I really hope during that festival we see something magical happy face

I feel like Shiho plan is so break up SS girls band by using Kino
Shiho does give off this manipulative thinks outside the box vibe.. she will use someone or something to get what she wants. Meanwhile Yori will be involved in this and then Aki (short blonde girl) will blame herself for causing this from the start because she was good friends with Shiho until drama happened.

But given Shiho gives off this toxic vibe it will be interesting to see her personality change because of Kino's influence

It's fine that others didn't like the first arc of the series, I personally dearly loved it and still do. I don't like this second arc that the people who didn't like the first are enjoying more. Everyone has their opinions.

I'm going to stay hopeful that the following arc will be more like the first, and that I'll fall in love with the series again.

Whelp, that chpter was a redefining of the "idiot couple" termn. Somebody, bonk those two on the head with a baka-mallet, STAT!

Pain
But god I hope the resolution to all this shenanigans makes me feel the pain now is worth it.

How adorable. ^_^

And for some reasons, one of them can't go.

After this chapter I can't unsee Mari and Kaori as Hino and Nagafuji from AdaShima.

If this was a finished series, maybe less people would be annoyed at Shiho? Idk, I'm also part of the minority that loves Shiho and I'm gonna be honest, I really hope the main couple communicates with each other soon because I just wanna see how Shiho's story turns out.

I do think think Laureley + Hima moments were cute though. I just hope the plot finally progresses and hopefully, we get more moments like this after the end or something.

I didn't even realize they haven't kissed on the lips yet. I guess I was similarly cautious about who my first kiss was with, but after having kissed, it's dumb to think that way. You both like each other? Kiss then.

Himari was so smooth, but sad that they didn’t smooch