I'll be honest, I have absolutely no idea what Harumin could have meant with that "I have a lot to learn" Matsuri's reaction the the cat was cute tho

It's an expression of admiration towards..."someone" (either Yuzu or Matsuri). Which "someone" is left intentionally ambiguous in the original Japanese, so I had to get extremely creative with the translation to maintain that ambiguity while preserving as much of the original meaning as possible.

Personally, I think she's talking about Matsuri. She envies and admires Matsuri's boldness and willingness to take action (which she demonstrated this chapter with her brazen gift and constant teasing). A lack of direction in her life seems to be Harumi's chief issue throughout the last few chapters, so I think she envies Matsuri here in much the same way she envies Maruta (and wishes she could be more like that herself, hence the "I have a lot to learn").

However, I also think that Matsuri thinks that Harumi is talking about Yuzu with this line (which is one of the main reasons it was so difficult to translate). Matsuri seems to be convinced that Harumi has feelings toward Yuzu (whether this is true or not, we still don't know for sure), and she teases and prods her about it on multiple occasions this volume. She expects words of admiration like that to be referring to Yuzu, not to her.

This is just my perspective from having read the original and having paid close attention to the interactions between these two during the chapters I've worked on. It's still left up to interpretation by the author, and more information will likely surface in Volume 5.

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For a half second I literally thought that Harumin had literally turned into a cat for some reason, such a shame it wasn't, that would have been a good development

Supernatural in Citrus... that would be a first!

I definitely like Matsuri and Harumi way more than yuzu and mei now.

For a self professed gyaru, Yuzu sure has the innocence of a pure hearted maiden. She could probably learn quite a bit from that book, if she ever works up the courage to actually read it :P

Oh, she will...

For a self professed gyaru, Yuzu sure has the innocence of a pure hearted maiden. She could probably learn quite a bit from that book, if she ever works up the courage to actually read it :P

Oh, she will...

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I'll be honest, I have absolutely no idea what Harumin could have meant with that "I have a lot to learn" Matsuri's reaction the the cat was cute tho

It's an expression of admiration towards..."someone" (either Yuzu or Matsuri). Which "someone" is left intentionally ambiguous in the original Japanese, so I had to get extremely creative with the translation to maintain that ambiguity while preserving as much of the original meaning as possible.

Personally, I think she's talking about Matsuri. She envies and admires Matsuri's boldness and willingness to take action (which she demonstrated this chapter with her brazen gift and constant teasing). A lack of direction in her life seems to be Harumi's chief issue throughout the last few chapters, so I think she envies Matsuri here in much the same way she envies Maruta (and wishes she could be more like that herself, hence the "I have a lot to learn").

However, I also think that Matsuri thinks that Harumi is talking about Yuzu with this line (which is one of the main reasons it was so difficult to translate). Matsuri seems to be convinced that Harumi has feelings toward Yuzu (whether this is true or not, we still don't know for sure), and she teases and prods her about it on multiple occasions this volume. She expects words of admiration like that to be referring to Yuzu, not to her.

This is just my perspective from having read the original and having paid close attention to the interactions between these two during the chapters I've worked on. It's still left up to interpretation by the author, and more information will likely surface in Volume 5.

This is a very interesting interpretation and certainly lines up with whatever we've seen on the series so far. I also found it very curious how chipper Matsuri was around Harumin, especially since in the last main chapter she was kind of depressed.

Honestly I'm sleepy and thought the cat was a sex joke and Matsuri was just calling Harumin a bottom

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I think it is interesting to compare this sequel series with the sequel to Kase-San

While one is set in college and has the two main characters go through some new challenges and experiences trying to navigate this brand new environment (while admittedly retreading some familiar territory)
They are older and so is their relationship

The other feels kind of stagnant and lacks that drama and stakes that made Citrus such a juicy read that I couldn't put down. I mean, we spent how many chapters with the big question of what to do for Yuzu's birthday?
It is also still set in this never changing high school world and it feels like in some ways that these characters have regressed instead of moved forwards.

Sorry for being the bearer bad news but there's no new chapter this month.

Yeah. The author sure likes her breaks. Almost quit reading Citrus because of so many breaks.

looooooove！！！！！

This is the best chapter in a good long while in my book. It has everything that makes Yuzu a good, likable character, plus an all too rare moment of Mei losing a bit of self control and acting like a normal young woman for a minute. THIS is the citrus I love.

This is the best chapter in a good long while in my book. It has everything that makes Yuzu a good, likable character, plus an all too rare moment of Mei losing a bit of self control and acting like a normal young woman for a minute. THIS is the citrus I love.

Wait, sure, Yuzu is Yuzu, but where is Mei "acting like a normal young woman"?

I see Mei acting like a ferociously strict parent of a wayward child, scolding Yuzu for thinking about anything except her studies, punctuated by:

https://dynasty-scans.com/chapters/citrus_august_25th#26

the Mei-bot suffering the BSOD when confronted by an actual "normal young woman" and her feelings.

Then rebooting and withholding her permission for Yuzu to "do what she wants" pending the results of her next exam.

This is the best chapter in a good long while in my book. It has everything that makes Yuzu a good, likable character, plus an all too rare moment of Mei losing a bit of self control and acting like a normal young woman for a minute. THIS is the citrus I love.

Wait, sure, Yuzu is Yuzu, but where is Mei "acting like a normal young woman"?

I see Mei acting like a ferociously strict parent of a wayward child, scolding Yuzu for thinking about anything except her studies, punctuated by:

https://dynasty-scans.com/chapters/citrus_august_25th#26

the Mei-bot suffering the BSOD when confronted by an actual "normal young woman" and her feelings.

Then rebooting and withholding her permission for Yuzu to "do what she wants" pending the results of her next exam.

Remember, I did say '' for a minute '' :P She got a tiny bit flustered there and lost a small percentage of her self control program. I count this as a win !

We haven't seen you in like, a year or something, right?

More like 6 years lol

I actually think I liked Mei better in this chapter too. I think her strictness is a clear sign of how much she genuinely cares about Yuzu's future. She left Yuzu with lots of advice and well wishes at the beginning of the chapter, and she's strict with her at the end because she wants Yuzu to succeed at her exams so she can pursue her dreams. She's not being controlling, she's being helpful (especially considering how busy she already is on her own). Mei's characterization is certainly subtle, perhaps more so than it used to be, but it looks like it might be headed in a better direction. I do hope she continues to develop and become more outwardly affectionate in the future. (I got a good chuckle out of the literal Robo-Mei in this chapter, lol.)

We haven't seen you in like, a year or something, right?

More like 6 years lol

I actually think I liked Mei better in this chapter too. I think her strictness is a clear sign of how much she genuinely cares about Yuzu's future. She left Yuzu with lots of advice and well wishes at the beginning of the chapter, and she's strict with her at the end because she wants Yuzu to succeed at her exams so she can pursue her dreams.

That's one way to read it, I suppose. But we've seen the "cheering someone on for an exam" manga trope countless times, and while I know that "Do your best" is a standard idiom, it's not quite "You can do it!," either. And in the post-exam section Mei does nothing except dismiss or downplay what Yuzu is upset about. (Generally in relationships when your partner is concerned about something, "You're worried about the wrong thing" tends to be a sub-optimal response.)

It's notable that the flashback of Yuzu crying is to Chapter 23 of the original series, which leads directly to the crucial turning point of Chapter 24. Yuzu's second encounter with the Shitty Homophobic Middle-School Gyarus (they also appear in panel 1 of Chapter 1) led to Yuzu rethinking, and almost giving up, her whole romantic relationship with Mei, and it's Mei's mature, considerate response in reminding Yuzu that "There is no right answer--we only do what we want to do" that results in the two of them agreeing to be together in a loving relationship going forward.

They're so far from that long-ago point that it's hard to remember it even existed.

Man, Kana sure is a bitch.

Is going to be hilarious if after Yuzu finally manages the courage to come out to them, it turns out they're also closeted lesbians and all the guy chasing was just a means of coping.

I'm starting to think that someone tells Sabu about what is discussed here since now we have a canon Meibot but really, I just can't understand the complaints about Mei lacing a character or failing to show her love for Yuzu when she has been the most proactive through this series.

More like 6 years lol

FWIW they were there at Yuzu and Mei's wedding (Bottom right)

Man, Kana sure is a bitch.

Is going to be hilarious if after Yuzu finally manages the courage to come out to them, it turns out they're also closeted lesbians and all the guy chasing was just a means of coping.

And to be fair, looking at all their (very few) scenes, Kana is truly awful, but Nanami seems pretty reasonable and usually tries to keep Kana in line.

Is it normal to read chapter after chapter and nothing happens? It even seems that the author has completely sanitized the subject of love, when they kiss, do other things than think about each other or imagine what others think? I find the story of citrus + completely unstitched with no thread, no sensuality .... it can last for years like this!

I’ve spent the past several years (man this manga is a trooper) defending Mei and her reluctance to be open with her emotions many times in the past, insisting she’s a very damaged girl who needs time to get more comfortable in her love life.

But….

I’m starting to agree with the majority here. It’s getting old. Mei needs to lighten up and let down her walls already. Or rather, Saburouta needs to step up her game. Realistically, there’s nothing holding characters back from growing except the author.

Is it normal to read chapter after chapter and nothing happens?

It's the true Citrus experience, yes.

It's notable that the flashback of Yuzu crying is to Chapter 23 of the original series, which leads directly to the crucial turning point of Chapter 24. Yuzu's second encounter with the Shitty Homophobic Middle-School Gyarus (they also appear in panel 1 of Chapter 1) led to Yuzu rethinking, and almost giving up, her whole romantic relationship with Mei, and it's Mei's mature, considerate response in reminding Yuzu that "There is no right answer--we only do what we want to do" that results in the two of them agreeing to be together in a loving relationship going forward.

I went back and reread Chapter 23 when I was working on the translation to see what Kana and Manami's last appearance was like, but I didn't continue on to Chapter 24. Your comment made me realize something I missed in this chapter: on Page 007, Yuzu's line in the second-to-last panel is that quote you mentioned from citrus Chapter 24, which was translated then as "There is no right answer. We only do what we want to do." Not realizing this, I translated it here in a way that I felt fit the situation. She's actually repeating the words that Mei said (wrote) to her back then to give herself courage. It's not a huge deal, and the meaning is still more or less there, but I wanted to at least call attention to the fact that those lines are the same. Thanks for helping me realize that, haha.

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It's notable that the flashback of Yuzu crying is to Chapter 23 of the original series, which leads directly to the crucial turning point of Chapter 24. Yuzu's second encounter with the Shitty Homophobic Middle-School Gyarus (they also appear in panel 1 of Chapter 1) led to Yuzu rethinking, and almost giving up, her whole romantic relationship with Mei, and it's Mei's mature, considerate response in reminding Yuzu that "There is no right answer--we only do what we want to do" that results in the two of them agreeing to be together in a loving relationship going forward.

I went back and reread Chapter 23 when I was working on the translation to see what Kana and Manami's last appearance was like, but I didn't continue on to Chapter 24. Your comment made me realize something I missed in this chapter: on Page 007, Yuzu's line in the second-to-last panel is that quote you mentioned from citrus Chapter 24, which was translated then as "There is no right answer. We only do what we want to do." Not realizing this, I translated it here in a way that I felt fit the situation. She's actually repeating the words that Mei said (wrote) to her back then to give herself courage. It's not a huge deal, and the meaning is still more or less there, but I wanted to at least call attention to the fact that those lines are the same. Thanks for helping me realize that, haha.

The irony is that Yuzu is then unable to follow through on that determination they both made all the way back in Chap. 24. This would have been a perfect time to demonstrate character growth by having Yuzu say to her former friends now what was so hard for her to say then.

But no, it's all postponed again, because reasons. (And as somebody has already mentioned, those two are about the only people who don't know about Mei and Yuzu's relationship.)