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The hospital let Kaori go outside because her days are numbered now, didn’t they…

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iTs OkAy GuYs ShE eNjOyEd It ThAt MaKeS iT fInE

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Damn… I like to think I have a strong heart but that was still difficult to read. Poor baby Elsa :’(

Hopefully lil angel Evie will give her the love and healing she deserves (I mean we know she will but I’m still excited~)

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Tilty hearing them in the next room over cringing in aroace

ShoujoCent
Liberta discussion 09 Apr 11:53
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Most of the people in these comments wouldn’t last two seconds reading Murcielago

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ShoujoCent
Citrus + discussion 21 Mar 22:47
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I’m glad we’re going back to the whole Mei becoming chairwoman and changing the system plot established all the way back in Vol 1. That whole board meeting is still one of my favorite chapters and hopefully it means we’ll be seeing badass take-no-shit queen Mei again.

Glad to see some people can understands the concept of this chapter.

And it should've been just that. Didn't need another new character to screw around with their relationship.

As much as I’m liking this setup and Arata’s chipper attitude so far, I will admit it would’ve been nice to involve a character we’re already familiar with. Like Mitsuko, or hell, Mei’s grandpa.

ShoujoCent
Citrus + discussion 21 Mar 22:18
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I get wanting stuff like that explained. I may not care, but you clearly do.

But those papers and initiatives and all that jazz are exactly as you said, just backdrops to the inner character drama. Maybe what you said about Saburouta not actually caring about them is right, but I personally don’t take issue with that because that’s never been what I cared about. I cared about how the characters I followed and grew to love reacted to those background plots.

It’s like asking for the original Star Wars trilogy to explain the inner workings of the Empire and how it rules the galaxy. We don’t care about that, we care about how their deeds/misdeeds affect the characters we’re following and how they respond. We saw what happened when the prequels tried to go in-depth with all the politics and stuff— it was boring af.

I’m not saying I want every detail explained, but if things are supposed to be important to the characters (like the school is to Mei), it would help to get just a little bit of a sense of how it works in relation to her. Otherwise the characters are just too obviously puppets being loaded down with a pile of blank paper labeled “school paperwork to keep the MCs apart.”

To change your analogy, it would be like the Star Wars movies if sometimes there’s an Empire and sometimes there’s not.

If that’s how you view it and why you take issue with it, then very well. Would it be nice to get some information on the stuff you’ve discussed? Of course. Does it bother me that we don’t? Not at all.

I can take the hint that student council duties in a prestigious academy and preparing to become a chairwoman is a lot of work and a big deal, and as it stands, it’s enough for me to understand and buy into the plot and character motives/actions.

The board opposes Mei because she wants to become chairwoman and change the system. Do we know exactly what that entails? No. But Mei being the first woman on the board, in charge nonetheless, and changing years, possibly decades of established rules, traditions, and procedures, is enough for me to believe their disdain of her and want to see them fall and her succeed. Just say down with the patriarchy and I’m in.

ShoujoCent
Citrus + discussion 21 Mar 21:45
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Guess it all comes down to whether one goes into each new chapter as someone who enjoys the manga overall vs someone who doesn’t.

Look, what “it all comes down to” is different readers thinking different things when they read things. It’s called “thinking.”

Plenty of authors are able to sketch out their storyworlds with a line or a scene or two that add a little depth to our understanding of the characters. Mei’s role at the school has been a central part of her character, but what that role actually is has been kept incredibly vague all along.

For instance, Mei wasn’t able to celebrate Yuzu’s birthday properly because she had many hours of “paperwork” to deal with, but what those papers were about or what they were supposed to accomplish for the school is entirely unstated—they’re just random plot furniture to keep to two leads apart. Now she has a major outreach initiative concerning the school. It seems reasonable to at least ask what it actually is besides an excuse for bringing our two leads into contact with a Big Bulky Guy who knew Mei before and thinks he may be able to relate to her.

I get wanting stuff like that explained. I may not care, but you clearly do.

But those papers and initiatives and all that jazz are exactly as you said, just backdrops to the inner character drama. Maybe what you said about Saburouta not actually caring about them is right, but I personally don’t take issue with that because that’s never been what I cared about. I cared about how the characters I followed and grew to love reacted to those background plots.

It’s like asking for the original Star Wars trilogy to explain the inner workings of the Empire and how it rules the galaxy. We don’t care about that, we care about how their deeds/misdeeds affect the characters we’re following and how they respond. We saw what happened when the prequels tried to go in-depth with all the politics and stuff— it was boring af.

ShoujoCent
Citrus + discussion 21 Mar 21:08
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And what if she finally does explore all that during this arc?

She might but I think the point they're making is that many of these questions could (and maybe should) have been answered already, considering how late into the series we are (the second series at that). The cell phone point is especially interesting, but I imagine she just operates in an old fashioned way and is dealing with old fashioned people. That wouldn't seem out of character, just like Kaguya from Kaguya-sama (who shares Mei's archetype, though that show deconstructs them for laughs). I guess Kaguya at least had an extremely old phone though.

I don’t know about you or anyone else here, but those questions didn’t enter my head while reading this. Even if I considered them I quickly stopped caring cause I’m more invested in where the overall conflict is going rather than the small details.

Guess it all comes down to whether one goes into each new chapter as someone who enjoys the manga overall vs someone who doesn’t.

ShoujoCent
Citrus + discussion 21 Mar 20:52
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The phone number could just be proper business habits or a nervous boy with a crush.

Which brings us back to the “underwritten” part again—what exactly is Mei’s current official status at the Aihara Academy? We know (or do we just assume?) that she’s the heir-apparent to the headmistress/director role, and she’s definitely the 3rd-year class president.

So under what guise or role is she lobbying these other schools to “accept her propositions” (whatever those might turn out be)?

And if she is indeed acting as more than an ordinary student, shouldn’t she be carrying her own cellphone, as a proper businesswoman would do?

I really do feel like we’re back in 2017, asking questions of the text that we now have good reason to believe Sabu has no intention of answering, or probably even of asking herself.

And what if she finally does explore all that during this arc?

ShoujoCent
Citrus + discussion 21 Mar 18:01
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I’m glad we’re going back to the whole Mei becoming chairwoman and changing the system plot established all the way back in Vol 1. That whole board meeting is still one of my favorite chapters and hopefully it means we’ll be seeing badass take-no-shit queen Mei again.

That being said, it’s almost becoming a joke (an annoying one) with how Mei will almost be affectionate with Yuzu and then immediately turn around and act like a dense kuudere again…

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Everyone’s out here dunking on Ayano and Miyoshi again but I just can’t get over how much of a disaster Ai is when Chie flirts with her. Someone help this poor girl xD

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Aya’s been tricked, backstabbed, and quite possibly… bamboozled

ShoujoCent
Citrus + discussion 19 Jan 04:24
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Idk no matter what y’all say I still love this manga. Seeing my favorite cast of characters in all of yuri doing anything in any capacity always brings a smile to my face~

ShoujoCent
Citrus + discussion 18 Jan 16:53
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I would just like to remind anyone who’s wondering why Mei acts so disinterested in sex that she was in a sexually abusive engagement with Amemiya for who knows how long and subsequently took that abuse out on the person she now loves. She probably still doesn’t associate sex with… good things.

Or that could just be my copium headcanon lol

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I understand not making any more art due to lost interest but why erase it entirely? Plenty of people still loved those artworks, seems like a weird decision…

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Bruh the comments here are either “Kaoru ftw” or “Kaoru gtfo”

ShoujoCent
Citrus + discussion 21 Dec 16:31
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While I did enjoy this finale, I think it could’ve been a little better written on Kana’s part. I guess you could argue their initial “homophobia” wasn’t that but more an aversion to PDA since that’s kinda taboo in Japan already.

But since that’s kinda what we were running with for awhile, I think it would’ve been a lot more powerful if Saburouta took a page from FukaBoku and had Kana say something along the lines of…

“I don’t really understand that kinda stuff yet, but if you’re happy I can keep an open mind! Who you love won’t undo all the years we’ve been friends, Yuzu.”

ShoujoCent
Citrus + discussion 21 Dec 10:17
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I hope I don't go back to kana and manami, what boring characters.

Manami? I can kinda understand, she’s basically just Harumin 2.0.

Kana? She had a helluva lot going for her these past few chapters. Unless you’ve got a terminal illness and the only treatment is seeing Harumin and Matsuri tongue-fuck each other, I don’t see how you can call Kana objectively boring.

ShoujoCent
Citrus + discussion 25 Nov 13:52
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I often question why, as a fan of this series, I keep coming back to the cesspool that is this comment section…

ShoujoCent
Inko-sensei discussion 23 Nov 12:53
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We just gonna ignore that Valkyrie is still going on after all these years? Shit must be at like Bleach levels of content by now

ShoujoCent
Citrus + discussion 20 Nov 22:59
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Is anyone else like about to drop this series cause it feels like saburouta doesn’t even care anymore we get like 4 chapters a year at this point and leave plotlines unfinished to progress with characters we literally don’t care about like where is the story even going at this point

Citrus+ was originally advertised as a slice-of-life spinoff exploring the cast’s everyday lives, especially the individual side characters. There isn’t meant to be a story like the original, although it could be argued that an overarching plot/theme that’s emerged in recent arcs is where everyone plans to go after graduation (sans Matsuri and Nene obviously).

Also, Saburouta just spent the last few months preparing a huge artbook in celebration of Citrus’ 10th anniversary. I’d hardly call her lazy or uncaring.

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ShoujoCent
Citrus + discussion 20 Nov 16:42
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It’s impressive that in just one chapter I’ve gone from feeling indifferent to hateful toward Kana, for not being a part of the main cast and for being passively homophobic to Yuzu back in OG Citrus, to seeing her as very well-written, dare I say 3-dimensional.

I’m sure there’s some cultural stuff going over my head with the whole career choice thing, but I am aware of how hustle-and-bustle Japan is when it comes to work, especially those who are corporate drones. Kana’s attitude and feelings here are very understandable in that sense, but at the same time it’s caused her to feel like any suggestion to help her along, even from her best friend, is an attack on her and she gets defensive and aggressive as a result.

Obviously this spike in frustration is probably recent due to reuniting with Yuzu and learning that someone she used to believe was such a free-spirited go-getter suddenly has her life all figured out (as we saw in previous chapters). This chapter takes it a step further by calling into question whether it’s resentment for contradicting her ideals, jealousy over having something she wants but can’t figure out, or both.

Hats off to you, Saburouta-sensei. I’m actually interested in seeing where you take these characters now.

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Y’all out here scaring me with the “they had sex, series might be ending soon” comments >_<

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Before anyone else points it out, Torajiro actually acknowledged his own error with Shizuka’s bandages on Twitter lol
https://twitter.com/kishitorajiro/status/1590132259520393217?s=21&t=4oQF-bQkbLUWSLQF4CUpfw