This, of course, is a lie. It is true that I do regularly mock people who see Mei's character as being consistent and well-developed, however.

So you mock people who are correct? Why?

You may read my previous arguments in the thread about why I disagree with those people who think that the forceful, competent, indeed volatile character we first met in the original series is consistent with the current withdrawn, passive, trembly character who communicates best through her toy bearsy-wearzy.

I shall not because Mei was never a "forceful, competent, indeed volatile character"
(competent I'll give you, but only in tasks she was told to do. Not with her own feelings nor with the feelings of others)

a character having an epiphany in the form of a sudden post-facto realization that her teenage stepsister-lover just might be disappointed that her birthday celebration is being postponed may strike some readers as the height of a newly-developed emotional sensitivity, while others, like me, could regard it as something a normal person might already know by, like, being alive in the world.

I certainly wouldn't be able to figure it out. Empathy, social norms, etc don't come naturally to everyone.
Perhaps Mei isn't what you'd call a "normal person" and that's okay. I certainly find her much more interesting like this than I would if she was "normal"

This, of course, is a lie. It is true that I do regularly mock people who see Mei's character as being consistent and well-developed, however.

So you mock people who are correct? Why?

You may read my previous arguments in the thread about why I disagree with those people who think that the forceful, competent, indeed volatile character we first met in the original series is consistent with the current withdrawn, passive, trembly character who communicates best through her toy bearsy-wearzy.

I shall not because Mei was never a "forceful, competent, indeed volatile character"
(competent I'll give you, but only in tasks she was told to do. Not with her own feelings nor with the feelings of others)

Headcanon is a hell of a drug.

This, of course, is a lie. It is true that I do regularly mock people who see Mei's character as being consistent and well-developed, however.

So you mock people who are correct? Why?

You may read my previous arguments in the thread about why I disagree with those people who think that the forceful, competent, indeed volatile character we first met in the original series is consistent with the current withdrawn, passive, trembly character who communicates best through her toy bearsy-wearzy.

I shall not because Mei was never a "forceful, competent, indeed volatile character"
(competent I'll give you, but only in tasks she was told to do. Not with her own feelings nor with the feelings of others)

Headcanon is a hell of a drug.

I call it paying attention but sure

Headcanon is a hell of a drug.

Self-righteousness is a hell of a drug.

Character development? What the heck is that?

Also maybe just, y’know, don’t mock people for having an opinion? You can disagree and argue differently, sure, but don’t belittle those who disagree with you

I never went into Bloom Into You forums and made fun of people for liking Yuu even though I don’t

Thank you for your moralizing lecture along with your testimony to your righteous bona fides

You're quite right--opinions can differ: a character having an epiphany in the form of a sudden post-facto realization that her teenage stepsister-lover just might be disappointed that her birthday celebration is being postponed may strike some readers as the height of a newly-developed emotional sensitivity, while others, like me, could regard it as something a normal person might already know by, like, being alive in the world.

I'll bear that in mind.

So not only do you regard your opinion as absolute undeniable fact and mock any who disagree, but you passive aggressively deprecate people who don’t process emotions as well as others, which is a very real thing.

The view must be great from that pedestal you’ve put yourself on.

Headcanon is a hell of a drug.

Self-righteousness is a hell of a drug.

Sleep-deprivation is one hell of a drug.

points at self as an example

You guys ruined it, but: Mei is such a normie. She just gets the basics wrong and doesn't pay enough attention to her lover. In which case, why have a lover? If you're not emphatically into your lover above all else...but then she's had this work load since she was placed in her grandfather's shell.

This manga is actually about seniors raising kids and what that looks like. Looks bad, but I think in this case Mei is the casualty of conservative traditional old-school thinking. And in ways that's a comment on Japanese society since it's politically run through the above-50 set. They have all the power and basically are Japan, it's why they only got rid of bureaucratic seals recently during COVID.

Sly Saburouta politics? Mei's also in the ultra-wealthy class as well so she's a comment on the top .1% as well. It's funny how it's a poor vs rich relationship. And it's funny how they're quibbling about birthdays when all we wanted was some more of that summer H E A T S T E A M from before chap 36.

My advice is to not keep your pants on or wait and prove your love once and for all.

I think Mei and Yuzu just need to fuck it all out and they won't have anymore relationship drama. Don't you agree? Nod your head, YOU AGREE!

you passive aggressively deprecate people who don’t process emotions as well as others, which is a very real thing.

This is aggressively missing the point--you think I'm talking about a real (albeit fictional) human being.

I'm talking about about an author's (lack of) craft in constructing a narrative work of art.

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This is aggressively missing the point--you think I'm talking about a real (albeit fictional) human being.

I'm talking about about an author's (lack of) craft in constructing a narrative work of art.

I hope one day I get to read the version of Citrus and Citrus+ that you read. Must be an interesting experience.

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2000th comment. Sorry, I had to xd

2000th comment. Sorry, I had to xd

2,001 comment here and oh boy, we got some newbies it seems.

I think Mei and Yuzu just need to fuck it all out and they won't have anymore relationship drama. Don't you agree? Nod your head, YOU AGREE!

YES!!! T_____________________________________________T

I keep lurking every now and again, waiting for the moment they finally did it :P

Back to trying to teach Meibot how to love
Or maybe Meibot has just been malfunctioning this whole time due to a virus known as "love sickness"

Back to trying to teach Meibot how to love
Or maybe Meibot has just been malfunctioning this whole time due to a virus known as "love sickness"

It's hilarious that people think I "dislike" the Mei character--I just want the vibrant, volatile Mei from the early volumes back. Sure, she was always emotionally repressed, but at first it was like a lid on a smoldering volcano.

Now she just seems lobotomized (or, as you say, malfunctioning.)

Back to trying to teach Meibot how to love
Or maybe Meibot has just been malfunctioning this whole time due to a virus known as "love sickness"

It's hilarious that people think I "dislike" the Mei character--I just want the vibrant, volatile Mei from the early volumes back. Sure, she was always emotionally repressed, but at first it was like a lid on a smoldering volcano.

Now she just seems lobotomized (or, as you say, malfunctioning.)

Yeah, she just acts vacant and distant now like she just got back from war

Or like...she's just a terminator now

^lmao

Good thing I hadn't made my morning coffee yet else RIP keyboard.

New chapter today or in two days?

Why Mei has to consult Himeko?
Let see how many friends Mei actually REALLY have that are on her side.
1. Sara (common friends with Yuzu ,on Mei's side...) too far away. no go. No cell phone anyway.
2. Kayo (graduated), not that close. We really do not know much about her anyway.
3. Himeko, closest friend, thus by default.
Everyone else is either Yuzu's friends such as Harumin, or common friends but on Yuzu side, such as Matsuri.
..Wondering if being a bot has something to do with the lack of friends.....
So much for being "popular". More like Empresses with no clothes...

Oh yes, Yuzu must be a bot doctor, not just fixing a W-I-P Mei, but managed to fix Sayaka (I would have never thought that the ONLY homophobic closeted lesbian in the series can be fixed...)

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New chapter today or in two days?
Nope, we got conned. It was listed in the preview, both from (my copy of) July issue and the website, but when the actual product showed up, it was not there. Thank goodness Citrus is not my primary read, mine is detached relationship.
It is not the first time Yurihime has a false advertising. Their very first issue listed Loveless (Kouga Yun) as the headline on the front page....the series never got punished there. Besides, mangaka are not bots, they can get sick too.

i keep trying to go back and get into this series but i can't. it's like the characters keeps on having amnesia every 5 chapters or something and their progress goes back to square one. it doesn't seem like mei ever matured as a character and that sucks. it seems the author needs some help writing the story out.

Why did Yuzu get surprised?

i keep trying to go back and get into this series but i can't. it's like the characters keeps on having amnesia every 5 >chapters or something and their progress goes back to square one. it doesn't seem like mei ever matured as a character >and that sucks. it seems the author needs some help writing the story out.

Mei actually is maturing very quickly right after accepting the proposal. But you really need to pay lots of attention to some subtle hints and also what she say. Also, unusual facial expression, such as the front page concerning "love sickness". Remember, she is the opposite of Yuzu, Anything that pops into her head. she will spend time chew on it. before saying anything, and usually it is "....." or "Nani?".

Pay attention to Chapter 6, the board meeting. It is a HUGE step for Mei. After Shou was humiliated and insulted by the old men, Mei took charge and says she will take the chairmanship, her way, or the highway, while also declaring that Yuzu is her partner in a serious manner. Read it panel by panel and see if you can catch certain things, such as the facial expression of every member of the board. Some are laughing, some are in shock, some are confused, and of course, for Gramps, it is always a face palm.

There is no doubt in my mind that it is the board that leaks out the information that Yuzu and Mei are partners. All their friends and their family (especially gramps who works on a plan to eliminate rumors) seal their lips. Yet when sayaka mentioning it to Miyabi, it sounds like an open secret or an interesting rumor that you can tell everyone knows it by then.

The two of them actually think like somewhat of a married couple after the proposal. For Yuzu it is "My dream is your dreams anyway", while for Mei, "Since you are going to be my life partner...". Keep those two sentences in mind whenever Mei does something, and then think about what would she do IF she does not have Yuzu in mind at all whatsoever or only in mind concerning school codes. Compare them.

She asked Himeko for advice exactly because she is getting mature and know when and whom to ask for help to solve a problem. Being able to identify a problem is a sign of growing maturity.

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