^Then it wouldn't be roleplay, it would just be normal life.

What what? This franchise is only about 3 and half years younger than me? Neat.

@EvelineClariss I think I found the root of the problem, you don't seem to be using the word canon exactly right. Canon means that something is part of a literary narrative, implicitly or explicitly, and when we're talking about a established licensed property like the Nanoha franchise everything that is made by (or authorized by) the rights holder is by default part of the canon, unless officially stated otherwise, so for example fans can't arbitrarily call the SSX drama cd not canon because it's secondary or Force not canon because it was cancelled, not until it's officially stated. With big multi-installment franchises like Star Wars or FATE many times the canon can diverge into multiple narrative universes that can't coexist with one another, in Nanoha's case fans usually agree that there are 4 major universes (usually called Nanoha's many canons): main timeline that starts with the og anime and finishes with Force and Vivid Strike (by default everything goes here), also the movies universe because they change the events of the main universe, and the smaller innocent universe and psp universe.
I can probably go into more detail but this much is probably already too much, and now back to the issue at hand the main thing is that if in a specific installment of a franchise that one person may arbitrarily define as THE one part of the canon is not explicitly stated that two characters are married, that doesn't mean that they are not; that couple being married is canon if it's part of the narrative of that literary universe, which means it can be part of other installments that are part of the same narrative, and just to clarify it doesn't necessarily has to be explicit etiher, the word subtext applies in those cases, which doesn't mean that something is not canon but that it's part of the narrative and inferred through context.

absolutely lovely art

new religion unlocked: gross goddess

mmm ears tasty

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classic yuri is the best!

^yeesh, lower your expectations. ive checked, theres a couple nsfw ones and thats it. even considering the ones not scanned, theres not much of these two. weird, since theres clearly no shortage of fanart.

CRACK PAIRING ALERT

I love how Reimu's just like: "get the fuck off me", while Aya's like: "i am not going to let go until i get what i came for"

this pic always struck more as Yachiyo not being afraid/accepting of Iroha even as she looks terrifying with the demon bird attached to her hair.

Oh is it her doppel? Clearly I've never seen it before. That gives the picture a touching context then. The look on Yachiyo's face and the way she's holding her is gentle despite the unsettling circumstances.

Anybody have any quick thoughts on the game outside of the yuri subtext? Like would its gameplay/story make it a worthwhile investment/use of time.

I don't know why I always do this to myself, but I'll cave and add this to my to watch/read list for the yuri. I don't even know anything else about the story.

The comedic spin-offs are written by Masaki Tsuzuki, the creator of the entire series. This includes Vivid Life which is where Nanoha and Fate are at their most domestic and actually have a lot of moments.

Long story short, the comedic spin-offs, and NanoFate, are canon.

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It's one of the best Tales games for sure, my personal favorite alongside Tales of the Abyss. The story itself isn't amazing with a somewhat generic world and pretty undercooked villains, but the heroes and themes more than make up for it. The main character in particular, Yuri (ironic name, I know), is nothing like your average JRPG protagonist in that he's mature, sure of himself and extremely willing to dirty his hands for the greater good. The main theme of the game is about the nature of justice as Yuri clashes with his best friend/rival Flynn due to him tending to act outside the (corrupted) law to make things right while Flynn aims to reform the law by climbing up the ranks from the inside. I find it pretty compelling.

Gameplaywise, it's mostly standard Tales fare with some interesting flourishes to the battle system that let you do insane combos, though it takes a pretty long time to open up like that. If you're not familiar with the series, you explore towns and dungeons, there's a not-to-scale overworld between areas and battles are action-focused in real time. There are many sidequests and the main game itself is pretty long at around 50 hours, so there's quite some value there. The Definitive Edition goes on sale rather often on the various consoles and PC so I think it's especially worthwhile if you can find it for $30 or less.

The story spams across three arcs giving you at least 60 hours of game time. (maybe more maybe less, depending if you take your time grinding and doing the side quests).

The Main cast is probably the best in the tales series. The MC Yuri(his actual name btw) is probably one of the best protagonists anywhere. Everyone in the party has their own unique personalities that bends well together to make for great storytelling throughout the game along with funny witty banter between them.

There are a lot of side quests with many unique npcs. Their missions are not just some typical 'can you do me a favor and I'll give you a reward'. They have their own sub-plots that continously build up on atop of each other that
you don't even do them for the rewards, you do them just to see what happens next....and also for the rewards

Gameplay wise its not the smoothest tales game. Movement in battle is kinda stiff, the lock on is linear so if the enemy moves slightly to the side you miss (its why I mostly use Rita, the mage of the party, for her AOE), you have to buy items to be able to do certain things within your party (ex: switch characters mid battle). Its not bad, just takes some getting used too.

Overall I'll give this game a 8 and definitely worth a buy if you like jrpg

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FWIW the premise and the design of the protagonist made me hesitant at first, but I gave it a try and now I'm totally in love with the game. You can skip it, but you'll be missing out on something great. And pancakes.

Honestly, why do people wonder if they're dating? Of course they're not dating.

They're married.

@StormBreaker1320 That's true, but I would also like to mention that even if all that was written by a different official author it would still be canon.

Fanartists keep drawing new art of LL regularly so it's likely going to be the case for at least a few years. It left enough of a mark in anime fandom, it seems.

I don't hate the protagonist, I said I want a female protagonist because I want doujins and fanarts to pop out like that.... I don't have good reflexes but I saw the play-through in youtube and it was very fun

Most of the ships in Overwatch are pulled from a hat. PharMercy is almost entirely because they make an effective combo with Pharah's jets and Mercy's glide and tether. I'm still waiting for my Orisa X any other character ship

Well, Mary would just get doubles in a few days anyways, so I guess renko really was the more unfortunate one here

I'm accepting fanfiction of Tendou & Kaoruko duo being mischievous together while Kuro is flustered and Futaba know they're plotting together but she can't help it cuz it's Kaoruko.

So it really is her doppel. That's neat.