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That wasn't a very happy ending :(

Can Waterflame start translating some happy yuri now? Between this and Gakkou Gurashi I'm starting to get sad.

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joined Apr 15, 2017

Holy Shi-!

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joined Jun 30, 2017

I think we got a Kannazuki No Miko ending here, but unlike KNM, Sato is reincarnated and she is the "little girl" now waiting for Shio whom is a teenager/adult by now. Well, better than the anime ending if we think this way!

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joined Mar 29, 2019

I should probably just read the last chapter to fill my curioustity since I haven't hactually read this one besides the first two chapter, but, could someone give a tl;dr of how this ended?

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I pretty much quit reading this after she slit her friend's throat. Is there any good reason to read it now?

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joined Mar 5, 2019

I think we got a Kannazuki No Miko ending here, but unlike KNM, Sato is reincarnated and she is the "little girl" now waiting for Shio whom is a teenager/adult by now. Well, better than the anime ending if we think this way!

It's not reincarnation. It's a complete life change. You get stories where the hero had a great love, and never dates or seeks love again after that great love dies; that's the case here. She speaks of Sato as separate, but part of her due to the happiness and life they had. Read back on the manga; Sato's pretty much the ONLY one who ever gave her 'unconditional' love. Dad was abusive, Mom had her own hangups from "shit rolls downhill", her brother required her to fulfill a certain role, to be the 'pure' one, same as Taiyou.

That's why the author had the flashback at the end; to reaffirm that idea. "It doesn't matter where. my love is my love, i only want you to welcome me home, and your love is your love. i love you, and that's what's important".

Yes, it was a traumatic experience. But like any trauma, it affects you deeply. As a survivor of some shit myself, it still affects me over a decade after it happened. But a deep experience like that doesn't have to be inherently negative. While yeah, overall Sato was REALLY Yandere for Shio, notice that she never went yandere to Shio herself. Only anyone who threatened Shio or her connection to Shio.

but how did she survive tho?

Sato sacrificed herself. took all that kinetic energy and acted as a cushion for Shio.

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I'm glad the series is over.

Not sure how I feel about it but I'm glad that it's over at least.

joined May 24, 2014

Wonderful, wonderful bleak ending!!

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joined Mar 5, 2019

I'm glad the series is over.

Not sure how I feel about it but I'm glad that it's over at least.

Eh, i think how it affects you depends on how you were raised yourself. i've only just realized the well of repressed anger i have from childhood PTSD from my dad being abusive growing up (just for context, one of those 'education' types towards me where grades and intelligence were the only values; he was MUCH more lenient to my younger sister). So i can understand Shio's side and response and how she develops into teenage-dom. Copying the only one who 'loved' her (since love is such a big theme in this series). As i said in another post, Sato was the only really 'unconditional' love Shio experienced.

Wonderful, wonderful bleak ending!!

Wouldn't call it bleak; more like....cynical yet still hopeful? Like, Shio cut off all the ones who were love with harm. She's living for herself and the one that's gone that loved her and sacrificed for her.

EDIT: Weirdly enough, this comes to an end here right when i've been confronting my father and confirming memories i didn't know where true or not as well within the last couple of weeks, so it's been....cathartic.

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joined Jul 19, 2014

Now I'm just expecting Shio to find a girl who looks/acts similiar to Satou and have the role reversal.

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joined Oct 21, 2017

Talk about a bad ending.

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joined Jan 17, 2017

A big part of me really wanted the two of them to be happy together. :(

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joined Feb 19, 2016

When the anime aired the ending, I hated it with all my being, wanting a happy end for the both of them. Now that some time has passed, I've come to realize that there WAS no happy ending for Sato because she's beyond saving once she crossed the line and became a murderer.

However that's only for Sato, Shio's story on the other hand still hasn't ended and since she received both the pureness of Sato's love and the bitterness that came from losing her, hopefully, she grows up and becomes a better version of Sato, one who's properly equipped to deal with this author's universe (because lets face it their universe is not the same as ours, its only made of suffering and filled with awful people) without resorting to anything drastic like Sato did.

Also hopefully she finds her own yuri partner and have a proper Happy Sugar Life with them

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joined Apr 27, 2014

Hmmm, I wasn't sure if I liked the ending with the anime, but I am sure I do now. I just finished this and wow, I can kinda see why some people didn't like it but...come on, what were the chances for an actual, conventional,happy ending for this couple? there's been murder,more murder,some more, a fire, not to mention the legal implications

I like how Shio got some Sato ,well some of her essence inside or something, I'd be more than willing to read about grown up Shio and see if she's fucked up or if she fares well. Which I highly doubt

joined Jul 26, 2019

Manga filled with psychopath who created an unhealthy atmosphere, and for that it was successful.
For the rest, a 5 year old girl decides not to come back to her family and manages to turn on her own? it's a fiction ok but well....
Sato really deserved her death, a happy ending would have been too beautiful for her

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joined Dec 16, 2014

What a dumpster fire

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joined Nov 24, 2016

When the anime aired the ending, I hated it with all my being, wanting a happy end for the both of them. Now that some time has passed, I've come to realize that there WAS no happy ending for Sato because she's beyond saving once she crossed the line and became a murderer.

Agreed. Kinda like a greek tragedy in that she doomed herself with a single vile deed far more than just letting things be. It's all the more pathetic since a regular human being would have been able to see it coming whereas her psychopathy let her delude herself into thinking there was any chance of escape.

However that's only for Sato, Shio's story on the other hand still hasn't ended and since she received both the pureness of Sato's love and the bitterness that came from losing her, hopefully, she grows up and becomes a better version of Sato, one who's properly equipped to deal with this author's universe (because lets face it their universe is not the same as ours, its only made of suffering and filled with awful people) without resorting to anything drastic like Sato did.

Also hopefully she finds her own yuri partner and have a proper Happy Sugar Life with them

Sadly, I don't think she'll get that. I think the implication with that reincarnation bit is that Shio has inherited the same brokenness that made Sato what she was: a psychopath for whom empathy and love almost impossible(hence rejecting her brother the second time) and, more tragically, like Sato, does not even register her own mental state as being abnormal. Being such a young age when this transpires, abnormal mental state(i.e. lacking in empathy) will be her normal.
I think that anything resembling a normal relationship will be beyond both her ability and desire, with the mirror implying that Sato is, was, and always will be, the only relationship that shall ever have meaning for her. With Sato now dead, the memories that Shio has are the only thing remaining of Sato, and the only thing Shio will ever deem precious and are something that can never be taken away or lost as the are completely part of her.
i.e. Shio was the only thing Sato ever wanted, and now Shio will always have Sato and never be concerned with anything or anyone else.

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joined Mar 5, 2019

I think the implication with that reincarnation bit is that Shio has inherited the same brokenness that made Sato what she was: a psychopath for whom empathy and love almost impossible(hence rejecting her brother the second time) and, more tragically, like Sato, does not even register her own mental state as being abnormal. Being such a young age when this transpires, abnormal mental state(i.e. lacking in empathy) will be her normal.
I think that anything resembling a normal relationship will be beyond both her ability and desire, with the mirror implying that Sato is, was, and always will be, the only relationship that shall ever have meaning for her. With Sato now dead, the memories that Shio has are the only thing remaining of Sato, and the only thing Shio will ever deem precious and are completely part of her.

i honestly don't pick that up at all. Just because one is related by blood doesn't make it a healthy or loving connection. Asahi was broken by his experiences with his dad, and basically 'worshiped' an ideal life of him, his sister, and his mother, his sister attaining a similar purity to Taiyou's ideal of her. This is a big reason she says she is dirty to Taiyou; she's rejecting that role. So of course she rejects her brother. That's also why she sees a younger version of him clinging to the real him; he's basically slowly became another variant of their father.

While Sato did bad things, she really didn't do any of them in front of Shio. Even when Sato admitted to doing bad things, she still worked at protecting Shio. And Shio got a form of love and affection that Sato never learned. i see it as Shio taking the best parts of her relationship with Sato, and learning to live for herself, not to be an idol, or represent purity, or as a burden to others.

Swear ta gods, feels like i'm the only one seeing this from a survivor mindset, having been in similar situations (though not to the extremes of this manga).

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i honestly don't pick that up at all. Just because one is related by blood doesn't make it a healthy or loving connection. Asahi was broken by his experiences with his dad, and basically 'worshiped' an ideal life of him, his sister, and his mother, his sister attaining a similar purity to Taiyou's ideal of her. This is a big reason she says she is dirty to Taiyou; she's rejecting that role. So of course she rejects her brother. That's also why she sees a younger version of him clinging to the real him; he's basically slowly became another variant of their father.

While Sato did bad things, she really didn't do any of them in front of Shio. Even when Sato admitted to doing bad things, she still worked at protecting Shio. And Shio got a form of love and affection that Sato never learned. i see it as Shio taking the best parts of her relationship with Sato, and learning to live for herself, not to be an idol, or represent purity, or as a burden to others.

Swear ta gods, feels like i'm the only one seeing this from a survivor mindset, having been in similar situations (though not to the extremes of this manga).

I think that seen as the author wrote the manga you can remove all kind of positivity and evolution for this poor girl... If we follow the guiding line of the story she will remain locked in her vision that she is now one with sato... she rejects any return to the past, her brother ,her mother and especially her unconditional love to sato.

joined Jun 8, 2019

Taiyou got fixed, how? well nvm, he got a happy ending of sorts

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joined Apr 27, 2013

Sorta happy but also kinda dark? Which is pretty much what I wanted from a series where everyone is awful. The strangest part was how much of the ending is vague and open to interpretation

I think the intent is that Shio's achieved self-actualization from this and is now able to avoid the toxic relationships that defined basically the entire rest of the cast. But my preferred reading is that Shio is now looking for another Sato and is just going to restart everything

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joined Apr 20, 2013

In real life, a lot of people get away with murder and die of old age

i dead ass cried. I wish they could've had a nice ending TT_TT

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joined Apr 29, 2018

Wow... What a "Sad Salty Life"

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joined Mar 10, 2018

So long as Shio is happy, I'm okay with it I guess. Although honestly I just really didn't like the brother, so the fact that she flat out turned him down makes me happy

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