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It’s the “Needed Killing” exception to the prohibition on homicide.

That’s considered a form of public service, actually.

Japan is notoriously accepting of vigilantism.

Alice Cheshire Moderator
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Serenata posted:

In real life, a lot of people get away with murder and die of old age

I was reading a statistic the other day about how in the US apparently only ~40% of murders result in a conviction.

shenron67 posted:

Didn't expect that ending, but didn't expect anything else either.
I just wish Sato's friend was still alive, she didn't deserve that...

She didn't but she really brought it upon herself. She failed to understand Sato and then in Sato's eyes betrayed her, endangering the single most important thing to Sato. If she hadn't gone about things so stupidly she probably wouldn't have died and things could've found a better ending.

sirflimflam posted:

shit taste confirmed. also she only killed one person who did not deserved all other deaths were justified.

One isn't enough?

One death is never enough.

schuyguy Uploader
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She didn't but she really brought it upon herself. She failed to understand Sato and then in Sato's eyes betrayed her, endangering the single most important thing to Sato. If she hadn't gone about things so stupidly she probably wouldn't have died and things could've found a better ending.

And we're back. Apparently victim-blaming is obviously wrong when it comes to rape but it's perfectly acceptable when it's only something as minor as murder.

46-75
joined Jun 25, 2019

She didn't but she really brought it upon herself. She failed to understand Sato and then in Sato's eyes betrayed her, endangering the single most important thing to Sato. If she hadn't gone about things so stupidly she probably wouldn't have died and things could've found a better ending.

And we're back. Apparently victim-blaming is obviously wrong when it comes to rape but it's perfectly acceptable when it's only something as minor as murder.

It's easier to blame a dead person than a living one and well murder had circimstance sometime when Rape can never be justified in any way.

Alice Cheshire Moderator
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schuyguy posted:

She didn't but she really brought it upon herself. She failed to understand Sato and then in Sato's eyes betrayed her, endangering the single most important thing to Sato. If she hadn't gone about things so stupidly she probably wouldn't have died and things could've found a better ending.

And we're back. Apparently victim-blaming is obviously wrong when it comes to rape but it's perfectly acceptable when it's only something as minor as murder.

I'm not blaming her for getting murdered so much as saying she made a mistake that could have easily been avoided. She put too much trust in Sato despite Sato having just been revealed as a more fucked up individual than she'd thought.

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I check in on this trash story maybe once a year when I have nothing else to read. Just to see if Sato gets put away and punished and Shio gets reunited with her mother and brother. But nope. Sato goes out "heroic" and idolized. Little Shio is now fucked up ten times more than before and beyond repair. Wooooo.

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Shio gets reunited with her mother and brother.

Oh yeah, it's true the mom is a better human being. Not like she abandon her in the street.

joined Dec 13, 2015

I can see why people are disappointed it was pretty much the same ending as the anime, but I did think the anime's ending was pretty good so I have no complaints ig.

Narratively we'd been building to Sato's death the moment she decided to kill her friend; that Shio seems to be going down a similar path is bleak, but i find it kind of cathartic too. Sometimes trauma just changes you, and frankly there was just no genuinely "good person" role model in Shio's life, so this makes sense. NGL I may have been hoping for the happy ending bc I love the characters, but at the same time I appreciate that the writer didn't chicken out and just give us an unrealistically happy end, choosing instead to give us a finale that was coherent with what came before.

Shithead
joined Oct 23, 2018

i hate this manga i don't care what none of yall say about a unrealistic happy ending i ain't a realistic person that building could have become sentinent and stayed upright on it's own to let them escape for all i care i just wanted my girls to go cruising in the bahamas together

i hate it but it was good all around

joined Jun 12, 2019

Was hoping it would end a little different from the manga

joined Nov 13, 2019

Was hoping it would end a little different from the manga

the anime ended first the mangaka ended the manga same way as the anime which was a slap in the face and waste of time.

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Was hoping it would end a little different from the manga

the anime ended first the mangaka ended the manga same way as the anime which was a slap in the face and waste of time.

I'm very curious--I can understand wishing for another outcome to the story, but in what way is the ending a "slap in the face"?

Rosmontis
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joined Jun 5, 2015

Blastaar posted:

Was hoping it would end a little different from the manga

the anime ended first the mangaka ended the manga same way as the anime which was a slap in the face and waste of time.

I'm very curious--I can understand wishing for another outcome to the story, but in what way is the ending a "slap in the face"?

Probably the fact that usually when anime airs and ends before manga finish, it's assumed the ending is anime original, so people were expecting different outcome from manga, but because it ended the same way, people feel like anime spoiled the ending for them? Or worse, the original ending author had in mind, was forced to be changed because of anime.

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Are there seriously people who think the author changed the ending of the manga, because of the anime? It seems obvious to me that the mangaka was involved in writing the conclusion of the anime.

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Blastaar posted:

Was hoping it would end a little different from the manga

the anime ended first the mangaka ended the manga same way as the anime which was a slap in the face and waste of time.

I'm very curious--I can understand wishing for another outcome to the story, but in what way is the ending a "slap in the face"?

Probably the fact that usually when anime airs and ends before manga finish, it's assumed the ending is anime original, so people were expecting different outcome from manga, but because it ended the same way, people feel like anime spoiled the ending for them? Or worse, the original ending author had in mind, was forced to be changed because of anime.

I know that a lot of people have been hoping against hope for a "happy" ending for the MCs since well before there even was an anime, but as was discussed here pretty extensively, IIRC, there really weren't a lot of plausible ways to get to such an ending, and "happily ever after" would be a notable reversal of tone for the entire series anyway.

EDIT: Also, what Belial said.

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joined Jun 25, 2019

Are there seriously people who think the author changed the ending of the manga, because of the anime? It seems obvious to me that the mangaka was involved in writing the conclusion of the anime.

Then again Kunihiko Ikuhara have written Yuri Kuma Arashi the manga and have produced and written Yuri Kuma Arashi the anime and god down the anime and the manga are nothing alike.

joined Nov 13, 2019

Are there seriously people who think the author changed the ending of the manga, because of the anime? It seems obvious to me that the mangaka was involved in writing the conclusion of the anime.

Then the way continue manga if end is the same also slot of people hated ending.

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I know that a lot of people have been hoping against hope for a "happy" ending for the MCs since well before there even was an anime, but as was discussed here pretty extensively, IIRC, there really weren't a lot of plausible ways to get to such an ending, and "happily ever after" would be a notable reversal of tone for the entire series anyway.

The ending could left anonymous or Satou getting arrested for kidnapping. Getting out years later getting back with teenage Shio.

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Then again Kunihiko Ikuhara have written Yuri Kuma Arashi the manga and have produced and written Yuri Kuma Arashi the anime and god down the anime and the manga are nothing alike.

The anime is the original though, and the manga exists just to promote the anime. It's quite normal for anime > manga adaptions to be different.

Rosmontis
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Belial posted:

It seems obvious to me that the mangaka was involved in writing the conclusion of the anime.

I agree it's way more likely conclusion, but I do have to sympathize with manga fans. Anime usually is made specifically to hype or promote manga. The fact anime spoiled the true ending does feel like a terrible marketing decision. It doesn't matter for when manga is finished, but when people don't like the ending there's high chance people will actually stop buying it exactly, because they know now how it ends and they didn't like it. Then again, maybe they would still buy it convinced anime ending was original and manga will end differently. You know what? It might be the most brilliant marketing decision to simultaneously make your fans buy your manga and hate you forever.

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joined Jun 25, 2019

Then again Kunihiko Ikuhara have written Yuri Kuma Arashi the manga and have produced and written Yuri Kuma Arashi the anime and god down the anime and the manga are nothing alike.

The anime is the original though, and the manga exists just to promote the anime. It's quite normal for anime > manga adaptions to be different.

Wait what ? Isn't that stupid thinking ? The manga and the anime has not the same beside yuri and the bear imagery. Different is an understatement since it's not even the same story.

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joined Oct 19, 2019

Wait what ? Isn't that stupid thinking ? The manga and the anime has not the same beside yuri and the bear imagery. Different is an understatement since it's not even the same story.

I haven't read the manga so I wouldn't know how different it is, but like I said it's common for these adaptions to have differences(or in some cases a completly different story).

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joined Jun 12, 2015

Are there seriously people who think the author changed the ending of the manga, because of the anime? It seems obvious to me that the mangaka was involved in writing the conclusion of the anime.

Then again Kunihiko Ikuhara have written Yuri Kuma Arashi the manga and have produced and written Yuri Kuma Arashi the anime and god down the anime and the manga are nothing alike.

Wrong. Yuri Kuma Arashi anime and manga were both a different works with the base idea. Ikuhara wasn't involved with the manga version.

46-75
joined Jun 25, 2019

Are there seriously people who think the author changed the ending of the manga, because of the anime? It seems obvious to me that the mangaka was involved in writing the conclusion of the anime.

Then again Kunihiko Ikuhara have written Yuri Kuma Arashi the manga and have produced and written Yuri Kuma Arashi the anime and god down the anime and the manga are nothing alike.

Wrong. Yuri Kuma Arashi anime and manga were both a different works with the base idea. Ikuhara wasn't involved with the manga version.

That's why everywhere i go Ikuhara is mention for its work on the manga ?

1461894977557
joined Jun 12, 2015

Are there seriously people who think the author changed the ending of the manga, because of the anime? It seems obvious to me that the mangaka was involved in writing the conclusion of the anime.

Then again Kunihiko Ikuhara have written Yuri Kuma Arashi the manga and have produced and written Yuri Kuma Arashi the anime and god down the anime and the manga are nothing alike.

Wrong. Yuri Kuma Arashi anime and manga were both a different works with the base idea. Ikuhara wasn't involved with the manga version.

That's why everywhere i go Ikuhara is mention for its work on the manga ?

If you would read interviews with him and Morishima Akiko you would know about their deal with this project. Ikuni gave Morishima only the base idea. With that Morishima started to work on the manga and published first chapters before even anime started airing.

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