I loved the "Useless Princesses in 3 seconds" summary. I admire authors who can look at their own works from a mocking perspective.

God, this manga doesn't have a single likeable character.
Edit: also they should remove the glasses tag, this manga doesn't deserve it.

I gotta say I feel pretty much the exact opposite like I liked every character in this chapter.

I think it's safe to assume everyone reading this manga loves the characters. The couple of trolls posting nonsense to rile us, they are just the exception that proves the rule.

I mean, really, what's not to love???

I'm really disappointed in this series.

I can't help but roll my eyes at the pointless melodrama in this series... why am I still reading it. Kind of because it reminds me of Girlfriends but it's not nearly as good. Like I'm not even sure if it's yuri at all.

Like what is with her saying "We're not equal?" its so stupid.

Just have sex already you useless lesbians.

I can't help but roll my eyes at the pointless melodrama in this series... why am I still reading it. Kind of because it reminds me of Girlfriends but it's not nearly as good. Like I'm not even sure if it's yuri at all.

Like what is with her saying "We're not equal?" its so stupid.

This development has been pretty blatantly foreshadowed from the outset. Kurokawa has always put Fujishiro on a pedestal as a "princess" and viewed her as better than and apart from her it's completely unsurprising that she'd view herself as undeserving of being close to her. It's hardly like the author pulled this issue out of their ass for the sake of drama.

Call me crazy, but I'm kinda feeling Iro/Izumi.

I can't help but roll my eyes at the pointless melodrama in this series... why am I still reading it. Kind of because it reminds me of Girlfriends but it's not nearly as good. Like I'm not even sure if it's yuri at all.

Like what is with her saying "We're not equal?" its so stupid.

This development has been pretty blatantly foreshadowed from the outset. Kurokawa has always put Fujishiro on a pedestal as a "princess" and viewed her as better than and apart from her it's completely unsurprising that she'd view herself as undeserving of being close to her. It's hardly like the author pulled this issue out of their ass for the sake of drama.

Exactly. Character development so far has rock-solid coherence. One wonders if the people complaining have actually read the previous chapters.

I mean... something of a distance briefly made for something as minor as how you call each other? I'm a teenager, and even I'm baffled at how weird teen logic can be

Well, if you're not Japanese, then that would explain it. There's a very big emphasis on what you call each other and how you speak in front of others in Japanese culture, hence things like honorifics, teineigo, and etc. Letting Izumi call her by her first name and not Fujishiro is like saying, "I consider Izumi a closer friend than you, even though I've only spoken with her once or twice." Fujishiro honestly had every right to be pissed at Kurokawa.

Useless lesbian princesses, indeed.

As someone with extensive experience of high-school low-self-esteem, I will say that this is some world-class high-school low-self-esteem.

“Person would never want to be with me” when person is with you right that very second.

Well-played (or poorly played—not sure which is praise in this context.)

I don't think that's what Kurokawa was saying. She wants to be with Fujishiro, and I think she honestly believes Fujishiro wants to be with her too. It's just that Kurokawa doesn't want to stand in the same spotlight as Fujishiro. She wants to "support her from the shadows", more like a sort of 'groupie' than a 'give and take' role. I think that's what she was getting at in the first few pages too, where she says, "I didn't understand what Fujishiro was thinking when she hugged me... Whatever it was, it's not the feeling that I'm having right now" and "Fujishiro crying is something I can't allow." Kurokawa idolizes Fujishiro and wants to push her up, rather than stand side-by-side, due to her inferiority complex. I don't think it has anything to do with how Kurokawa thinks Fujishiro sees her as, but rather it's about how she sees herself.

Unless you were talking about 'being together' in a romantic sense. In that case, I don't think either of them have consciously even considered it a possibility yet.

I can't help but roll my eyes at the pointless melodrama in this series.

You know, I was thinking this after reading the credit pages too, but I would hardly call highschool girls getting a bit jealous over their friends and then quickly making up after shedding a few tears melodrama. As for Kurokawa's monologue, the story has centered around her inferiority complex right from chapter one, and has only influenced her character and motives in subtle ways, which would be more apt to be considered regular drama rather than melodrama in my opinion.

F*** this garbage, I'M DONE, drama over a surname/first name? I AM OUT...

I can't help but roll my eyes at the pointless melodrama in this series... why am I still reading it. Kind of because it reminds me of Girlfriends but it's not nearly as good. Like I'm not even sure if it's yuri at all.

Like what is with her saying "We're not equal?" its so stupid.

This development has been pretty blatantly foreshadowed from the outset. Kurokawa has always put Fujishiro on a pedestal as a "princess" and viewed her as better than and apart from her it's completely unsurprising that she'd view herself as undeserving of being close to her. It's hardly like the author pulled this issue out of their ass for the sake of drama.

Exactly. Character development so far has rock-solid coherence. One wonders if the people complaining have actually read the previous chapters.

Lmao... I have read the past chapters. It still doesn't make sense. I get Kurokawa is insecure but they've been friends this entire time. Shouldn't they be past this? It's completely forced drama.

I can't help but roll my eyes at the pointless melodrama in this series... why am I still reading it. Kind of because it reminds me of Girlfriends but it's not nearly as good. Like I'm not even sure if it's yuri at all.

Like what is with her saying "We're not equal?" its so stupid.

This development has been pretty blatantly foreshadowed from the outset. Kurokawa has always put Fujishiro on a pedestal as a "princess" and viewed her as better than and apart from her it's completely unsurprising that she'd view herself as undeserving of being close to her. It's hardly like the author pulled this issue out of their ass for the sake of drama.

Exactly. Character development so far has rock-solid coherence. One wonders if the people complaining have actually read the previous chapters.

Lmao... I have read the past chapters. It still doesn't make sense. I get Kurokawa is insecure but they've been friends this entire time. Shouldn't they be past this? It's completely forced drama.

Why would they be past this? It's never even been meaningfully addressed. Kurokawa has had a deep-seated inferiority complex from the start and a makeover and the power of friendship aren't going to instantly resolve that. Her magically getting over her major emotional issues because of a few hugs and kind words is what would feel forced seeing as that's sure as hell not how low self-esteem works in reality. This drama flows pretty naturally from the established characterizations and I really don't see where you're getting the impression it's forced.

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I'm disappointed in Kurokawa. I was too optimistic hoping that hug would indicate more growth. It's nice that Kurokawa is picking up on some of Fujishiro's nonverbal signals, but this ...complacency with being admirer is clearly a point of content to be resolved in upcoming chaps. Looking forward to it... for the most part, heh. ^^ ;)

Ranzo posted:

This last name first name stuff is always reeeally annoying

It seems to be far more common in Japan than western nations to refer to people by their last name. Here it's typically reserved for teachers or coworkers above you in the foodchain or, if you work in customer service, for customers you need to refer to by name. In Japan though it seems to be quite common to refer to anyone you're not particularly close with by last name.

Yeah, I get it but it is so damn overplayed at this point that it just comes off as being real cheap. I figured this author would use a bit better way of convening drama than something so token as that.

Call me crazy, but I'm kinda feeling Iro/Izumi.

after reading chapter 13 i ship them so hard

True, Kurokawa has always had a deeply ingrained inferior complex, as seen in the first few chapters. I’m glad the author brought it up since that type of thing is not so easily resolved.

Also it’s not drama over JUST the surname, it’s the authors way of showing kurokawas problem.

This last name first name stuff is always reeeally annoying

It seems to be far more common in Japan than western nations to refer to people by their last name. Here it's typically reserved for teachers or coworkers above you in the foodchain or, if you work in customer service, for customers you need to refer to by name. In Japan though it seems to be quite common to refer to anyone you're not particularly close with by last name.

Yeah, I get it but it is so damn overplayed at this point that it just comes off as being real cheap. I figured this author would use a bit better way of convening drama than something so token as that.

True, Kurokawa has always had a deeply ingrained inferior complex, as seen in the first few chapters. I’m glad the author brought it up since that type of thing is not so easily resolved.

Also it’s not drama over JUST the surname, it’s the authors way of showing kurokawas problem.

Exactly, Fujishiro got a little pouty for like, four pages, and then they instantly made up after a few words. That's hardly heavy handed drama. The real point of the whole name calling squabble was to reveal Kurokawa's emotional perception of her relationships with her classmates.

Seems like these comments are split between people who are good thinkers and people who don't think at all. I don't think some of y'all realize that people don't change overnight. God forbid the author take time to develop the characters. Y'all know the manga isn't over yet, right? I mean, we're less than 15 chapters in. Have some patience.

As for Kurokawa, I'm loving her progress so far. She's clearly been a social outcast ever since she came to this school, and she was picked on constantly by the gyarus. Making one friend isn't going to clear away years of a built-up inferiority complex in a matter of days. However, the fact that she's been showing signs of opening up to Fujishiro, mainly wanting her to be the only person who calls her by her surname, is a welcome step in the right direction.

Also, I'm pretty sure we can all agree that Iro-chan is an audience surrogate, right?

Yes little mascot. This is practically a picture definition of melodrama.

New friend group now featuring Izumi? How did I not realize I wanted that until it happened?

Kurokawa again figuring something is up Pretty quickly even if her way of fixing it is still off somewhat.

Gonna have to agree with those saying her issue from the beginning still hasn't been resolved.

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https://dynasty-scans.com/chapters/useless_princesses_ch13#26

So do this, ffs! Be with Izumi, let Iro be with Nanaki, you can still idolize Nanaki and everyone will be finally happy! Ugh!

I swear to God these girls are so f*cking brainless and afraid of loneliness.

Remember, folks, I said this:

Also, the weather forecast says there will be triggering Loralei comments in the Useless Princesses forum, though they aren't sure if they're trolling or genuine.

And then, wouldn'cha know:

https://dynasty-scans.com/chapters/useless_princesses_ch13#26

So do this, ffs! Be with Izumi, let Iro be with Nanaki, you can still idolize Nanaki and everyone will be finally happy! Ugh!

I swear to God these girls are so f*cking brainless and afraid of loneliness.

Is there any point to this comment other than to antagonize another member of the forums, BV. That's definitely not a good look.

^ I swear, when I saw in the page showing all the most recent forums, and saw you commented here, I knew it will have something to do with that comment of mine. But, instead of just replying to it and implicitly issuing a warning, I expected more, like a deleted comment and/or a week-long ban. This makes me glad and disappointed at the same time, which I previously thought was an impossible combination. But no problem, I can always delete the comment myself, as will do right after this comment is posted.

This chapter was adorable until the "we're not equal" + Izumi is hot