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joined Nov 27, 2017

Oh please... Don't let this go the obvious direction. It was finally starting to fucking go somewhere.

Ryuko
joined May 1, 2018

The old friend that suddenly returns after a certain amount of time maybe as a rival love interest? Is this gonna be citrus all over again?

57e011396781cdc3308f5aefac880571
joined Feb 19, 2016

everyone's saying Drama, but based on how Izumi's good mood transitioned directly to the new character introduction, and the fact that the new character hasn't specified who her "Angel" is, I'm inclined to think that they're actually playing with expectations. Either Izumi's gonna be the Angel or the new girl's gonna get together with Izumi by the end regardless, and I bet its gonna be pretty cute.

I'd like it if this was the case. Izumi seems like a great character to focus on simply because she was actually self aware of how she and her posse behaved once Nanaki left the group. Stick her with the new character and we could be getting a good duo couple story. And no unnecessary drama to boot!

Eivhbyw
joined Aug 26, 2018

Sheesh, people have been traumatized by this development so much before that they forget that it can absolutely have merits. A new character, heck even a rival character, can bring in something that is needed to move the plot/relationship along. Often only being confronted with a third party really gets the main characters to realize their true feelings.
As always with any narrative device, the execution is all that matters.

Sandra2
joined Mar 22, 2013

Plz no love triangle that feels constructed like hell

Yuu
joined Mar 28, 2015

In this chapter, the author suddenly added no less than 3 new love interests : Miki, Aota and that returning childhood friend.

So, it's going to be a love pentagon, not a triangle.

Eivhbyw
joined Aug 26, 2018

^At some point its just a plain old harem.

Victoriaxashley2
joined Nov 20, 2016

Sheesh, people have been traumatized by this development so much before that they forget that it can absolutely have merits. A new character, heck even a rival character, can bring in something that is needed to move the plot/relationship along. Often only being confronted with a third party really gets the main characters to realize their true feelings.
As always with any narrative device, the execution is all that matters.

It's lazy writing,instead of the main characters resolving their own issues and moving forward in the plot a new character gets conveniently introduced to move the plot forwards for them

Eivhbyw
joined Aug 26, 2018

Sheesh, people have been traumatized by this development so much before that they forget that it can absolutely have merits. A new character, heck even a rival character, can bring in something that is needed to move the plot/relationship along. Often only being confronted with a third party really gets the main characters to realize their true feelings.
As always with any narrative device, the execution is all that matters.

It's lazy writing,instead of the main characters resolving their own issues and moving forward in the plot a new character gets conveniently introduced to move the plot forwards for them

It's not inherently lazy. Any plot device used to move forward could be called lazy then. If a pair is not immediately aware of their feelings they will always need a trigger to get there. If a new character can actually add layers to the main characters through their past or through a new dynamic that brings out different aspects in them, then that's far from a bad thing. The important thing is that it shouldn't feel like a detour, but that it would not have moved any faster without them.

Now, introducing them as new fuel that comes out of nowhere certainly lessens the believability, rather than having them be introduced over a long time without any direct interference until needed (basically Izumi's role right now).... but that's also going to be critisized. People are never satisfied. Anything that could potentially threaten or interfere with the direct romantic entanglement of the main pairing is shunned to death. It's kind of sad.

last edited at Mar 4, 2019 7:13AM

Victoriaxashley2
joined Nov 20, 2016

Sheesh, people have been traumatized by this development so much before that they forget that it can absolutely have merits. A new character, heck even a rival character, can bring in something that is needed to move the plot/relationship along. Often only being confronted with a third party really gets the main characters to realize their true feelings.
As always with any narrative device, the execution is all that matters.

It's lazy writing,instead of the main characters resolving their own issues and moving forward in the plot a new character gets conveniently introduced to move the plot forwards for them

It's not inherently lazy. Any plot device used to move forward could be called lazy then. If a pair is not immediately aware of their feelings they will always need a trigger to get there. If a new character can actually add layers to the main characters through their past or through a new dynamic that brings out different aspects in them, then that's far from a bad thing. The important thing is that it shouldn't feel like a detour, but that it would not have moved any faster without them.

Now, introducing them as new fuel that comes out of nowhere certainly lessens the believability, rather than having them be introduced over a long time without any direct interference until needed (basically Izumi's role right now).... but that's also going to be critisized. People are never satisfied. Anything that could potentially threaten or interfere with the direct romantic entanglement of the main pairing is shunned to death. It's kind of sad.

I agree with your second point,it would make far more sense if it was a pre-established character like Izumi.

Well they did it ok the way they did it.

joined Oct 10, 2016

Kanade thinks Aota is in love with Nanaki. While I think Aota has crush on Kanade. Childhood friend? Idol love? Whatever, I just wish Kanade and Nanaki broke up already. Their relationship doesn't progress, Nanaki does stupid things for something she thinks is love, Kanade is secretly in a little pain...
Kanade, go for Aota. She's your only hope. Izumi (or whatevwr her name was, I'm not sure) is right. You and Nanaki don't fit.

And everyone os telling it to you two basically since the beginning. That means something.

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Yuu
joined Mar 28, 2015

^At some point its just a plain old harem.

Not necessarily. The childhood friend doesn't mention who she's pinning for.

If it's Kurokawa, *bam*, pentagon.

Eivhbyw
joined Aug 26, 2018

^At some point its just a plain old harem.

Not necessarily. The childhood friend doesn't mention who she's pinning for.

If it's Kurokawa, *bam*, pentagon.

gasp A stroke of genius! But wait...
Childhood friend --> Kurokawa <--> Fujishiro <-- Izumi & Miki

If you split Izumi and Miki, you get something more akin to a broom. lol

Utenaanthy01
joined Aug 4, 2018

Nothing much happened in this chapter...
People talked a lot to no particular end, and there were no new developments for the two MCs. That's it.

Img_0215
joined Jul 29, 2017

Nothing much happened in this chapter...
People talked a lot to no particular end, and there were no new developments for the two MCs. That's it.

Yeah well, my expectations were broke so I'm leaving of this...time to wait other GOOD Yuri manga

Lol. Be sure to keep us posted about your emotional state at all times.

Eivhbyw
joined Aug 26, 2018

Nothing much happened in this chapter...
People talked a lot to no particular end, and there were no new developments for the two MCs. That's it.

Really now? Fujishiro's hug definitely left an impression on Kurokawa. Now she questions what that was actually about and Fujishiro is certainly aware that she was doing something odd.
Izumi got revealed as an ally to Fujishiro.
It was revealed that the reason Miki is such a bitch to Kurokawa and badmouthes Fujishiro is that she actually really adored her and can't cope with her change.
A new childhood friend character will appear in the story soon, who apparently knew one of the MCs for 7 years and calls them her "angel".

But I suppose that has no relevance for the two MCs... somehow.

Yeah well, my expectations were broke so I'm leaving of this...time to wait other GOOD Yuri manga

Bye bye~
Don't let the door hit you on the way out.

Perfil
joined Sep 21, 2013

And just when there is a develop in the characters... a new plot twist appears!
Why... just... why...

F6c7d5d1-1d08-49c3-974d-d6169caf13f6
joined May 8, 2017

i don't get why people are complaining about a new character

Yurikosmaller2
joined May 28, 2011

ch 10, pg 09. "What would Fujishiro do it" -> "do if"

Untitled%203
joined Feb 3, 2013

i don't get why people are complaining about a new character

People are afraid of the upcoming potential drama. Emphasis on the potential part, since the story so far seems to be all about setting up drama for it not actually happening. The suspension was the most serious thing, and the most we got form it now is a strengthening in their bond and a gyaru yelling at Kurokawa, which turned out was just being jealous.

last edited at Mar 4, 2019 12:42PM

Utenaanthy01
joined Aug 4, 2018

Nothing much happened in this chapter...
People talked a lot to no particular end, and there were no new developments for the two MCs. That's it.

Really now?

That's how it felt to me, yep.

Fujishiro's hug definitely left an impression on Kurokawa. Now she questions what that was actually about and Fujishiro is certainly aware that she was doing something odd.

Frankly, this looked to me like a step backwards. Why the sudden awkwardness, when up to now they seemed to be comfy with those moments of touchy-feeliness and deep emotion?

Izumi got revealed as an ally to Fujishiro.

This we knew already. We also have reason to suspect that she has a crush on Fujishiro. But no development on that yet.

Heck, it seems Izumi hasn't even grasped yet that Kurokawa is her rival...

It was revealed that the reason Miki is such a bitch to Kurokawa and badmouthes Fujishiro is that she actually really adored her and can't cope with her change.

Pfffff... Miki is such a marginal existence in the story, I couldn't care less. In any case, if she admired Fujishiro, it's because Fujishiro was the queen bee of the school and had all the boy-drones at her feet. For her, that was the ideal role model. Straight as an arrow, our Miki.

A new childhood friend character will appear in the story soon, who apparently knew one of the MCs for 7 years and calls them her "angel".

Ah yes... that's kind of a development flag, alright... too bad it's the kind of flag that announces a new obstacle in the way of the relationship between the two MCs...

I've been loving this story so far, every chapter of it. But this particular chapter felt empty to me. Perhaps I've been spoiled by Nikaidou/Tadokoro and hoped for these two to turn more that way? Go figure.

Anyway, if you say you liked this new chappie, that's ok by me. Good for you.

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Dynasty_misc015
joined Nov 7, 2014

CozyCreature12 posted:

Yeah well, my expectations were broke so I'm leaving of this...time to wait other GOOD Yuri manga

I think it'd be impossible to live up to your completely arbitrary expectations. You seem to think every yuri manga is shit which makes me question why you even bother coming to the site. Then again you also seem to jump ship whenever the discussion gets too tough for you too which makes me question why you bother posting on the forums since you're clearly not here to discuss anything.

Eivhbyw
joined Aug 26, 2018

Oh no... this is a nightmare to quote.

Fujishiro's hug definitely left an impression on Kurokawa. Now she questions what that was actually about and Fujishiro is certainly aware that she was doing something odd.

Frankly, this looked to me like a step backwards. Why the sudden awkwardness, when up to now they seemed to be comfy with those moments of touchy-feeliness and deep emotion?

First of all they weren't very touchy feely yet. Aside from Fujishiro dragging her around a bit and doing her makeup I don't remember many skinship moments. The hug is a step forward, because she held it for so long that it was obviously not just out of relief anymore. At least Fujishiro herself realized that (hence the extreme blushing). It's just one more obvious sign that she is in love with Kurokawa and the latter is getting suspicious of it too.

Izumi got revealed as an ally to Fujishiro.

This we knew already. We also have reason to suspect that she has a crush on Fujishiro. But no development on that yet.

Heck, it seems Izumi hasn't even grasped yet that Kurokawa is her rival...

No, this we could assume with absolutely no proof up to this point. Is she her rival? Who knows. That is not confirmed yet either. But knowing that someone stands up for the both of them is important, because Izumi hasn't really done that until now. It makes them less isolated.

It was revealed that the reason Miki is such a bitch to Kurokawa and badmouthes Fujishiro is that she actually really adored her and can't cope with her change.

Pfffff... Miki is such a marginal existence in the story, I couldn't care less. In any case, if she admired Fujishiro, it's because Fujishiro was the queen bee of the school and had all the boy-drones at her feet. For her, that was the ideal role model. Straight as an arrow, our Miki.

So you don't care = not important. Good to know.

A new childhood friend character will appear in the story soon, who apparently knew one of the MCs for 7 years and calls them her "angel".

Ah yes... that's kind of a development flag, alright... too bad it's the kind of flag that announces a new obstacle in the way of the relationship between the two MCs...

I've been loving this story so far, every chapter of it. But this particular chapter felt empty to me. Perhaps I've been spoiled by Nikaidou/Tadokoro and hoped for these two to turn more that way? Go figure.

Anyway, if you say you liked this new chappie, that's ok by me. Good for you.

You don't like it = not important. Good to know.

The quality of the chapter aside, I just found your claim too outrageous lol

last edited at Mar 4, 2019 2:35PM

Heihtzz
joined Oct 16, 2016

I'm just here to hope that Fujishiro and Kurokawa kiss.

Your_hair_has_gotten_longer_by_folksneedheroes-d5l5v69
joined Apr 23, 2015

That was nice. A little more was going on with that friend group after all. I see the teacher hitting thing was all chatted up. All I can add is "is it enough for Fujishiro acquire the title of delinquent?!" :3

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